Neither of my local Walmarts are carrying Outers products anymore (brushes, cleaning patches, etc). Everything is now Winchester brand. Nothing against Winchester, but the selection of cleaning supplies is now very limited. I asked one of the sporting good associates at one of the stores, but he had no idea why the switch took place. Anyone else run into this?
No More Outers Gun Cleaning Products at Walmart?
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alemonkey
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They probably got a better deal on the Winchester brand products.
22-rimfire
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Have not noticed myself. But it sounds like typical Walmart. Outers probably wouldn't drop their wholesale price to Walmart and Walmart told them to hit the road. I'm going to look at a couple stores locally to see it Outers products have been dropped here as well.
I always buy Ivory detergent for the kitchen; it seems Walmart does not carry it any more. That sort of bugged me just a bit. But there are other stores and other detergents.
I always buy Ivory detergent for the kitchen; it seems Walmart does not carry it any more. That sort of bugged me just a bit. But there are other stores and other detergents.
mustang_steve
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Over here it's all Winchester and Hoppes....and very little Hoppes, just good ole no9 solvent (good stuff), and Benchrest 9 copper solvent (useless IMO, KG12 whoops it's butt).
The nice thing about the Winchester cleaning kit is the brass rod...less harmful to rifling. the bad is the plastic cleaning jags. The .22 jag is practically useless since it flexes so much on insertion. It's usable, but is a huge hassle to use it.
I also find the synthetic patches they have there horrible....c'mon have some cotton patches, they simply work better.
The nice thing about the Winchester cleaning kit is the brass rod...less harmful to rifling. the bad is the plastic cleaning jags. The .22 jag is practically useless since it flexes so much on insertion. It's usable, but is a huge hassle to use it.
I also find the synthetic patches they have there horrible....c'mon have some cotton patches, they simply work better.
Quoheleth
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Yep - I noticed the same thing at my local WM.
It's typical of the Wal-Mart/Sams Club chain: you like something, so you better stock up b/c it may or may not be there tomorrow.
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It's typical of the Wal-Mart/Sams Club chain: you like something, so you better stock up b/c it may or may not be there tomorrow.
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john1911
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Same products as made by Outers, simply labeled Winchester.
TEDDY
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wally
I noticed the oil is rem oil.and they have hoppes 9 but I know its not the old hoppes.and gun tests said rem oil was useless.
but then why care as so many hate wal mart.
I noticed the oil is rem oil.and they have hoppes 9 but I know its not the old hoppes.and gun tests said rem oil was useless.
but then why care as so many hate wal mart.
jimmyraythomason
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a higher kick-back?
On a similar note, I went to Wal Mart last week to buy one of the very nice inexpensive Remington padded sling with metal swivel included for my new rifle...I bought 2 of them last March for about 8 dollar a piece (I do not remember exactly), they were an incredible good deal....guess what, they are all gone......all they had was a cheap Winchester branded sling with no swivel and a roughly cut piece of foam (no sewn edges) as padded piece for $6.97
I should have bought couple of extra Remington slings in March when I had the chance...
So I had to buy your typical inexpensive fairly good Allen sling for $19 in a gun shop....couple of years ago the same sling was available at Wal Mart for about 7 bucks
I should have bought couple of extra Remington slings in March when I had the chance...
So I had to buy your typical inexpensive fairly good Allen sling for $19 in a gun shop....couple of years ago the same sling was available at Wal Mart for about 7 bucks
HOME DEPOT GEORGE
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Its all about how much they sell of a certain product or brand. At Home Depot we rate every sku in the store from A to E as a velocity code and if it's e velocity for a certain length of time it goes clearance and we change vendors or drop that particular product all together. Basically at all the big box stores if it doesn't sell it's taking up room for something that will.
I noticed the same Winchester selection at WM this weekend as well in NC. All of the Outers stuff is gone, Break Free CLP (spray and liquid) are gone. There's a Winchester CLP, probably BreakFree, but in spray form only. Previously WM had a decent selection of chemicals, now ... not so much.
I noticed the same thing, here's a couple of notes: I was at least pleased to see some the of winchester cleaning stuff was made in America, because so much of WalMarts crap is chinese. Secondly, the break free cleaner contains toluene, and organic chemical the I worked with in college chem. They have masked the true toluene smell with a citrus smell. Otherwise the smell of that stuff is horrible. Also that stuff disolved my baseplate on my morgan adjustable pad.
jimmyraythomason
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When you're the only game in town you can do whatever you want.
goose2
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Yep that's what purchasing agents do. They find the best price for the products and away the higher priced stuff goes.
ole farmerbuck
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Quote:
gun tests said rem oil was useless
We've used it since 1946 and it works. All our guns function perfectly, with no rust.
I use it on my IPSC and USPSA guns in competitions.
When you think you have your bore clean, run a patch soaked with rem oil then wait till the next day and run a tight patch through it. Prob will have some blue on it if you've been shooting jacketed bullets.
gun tests said rem oil was useless
We've used it since 1946 and it works. All our guns function perfectly, with no rust.
I use it on my IPSC and USPSA guns in competitions.
When you think you have your bore clean, run a patch soaked with rem oil then wait till the next day and run a tight patch through it. Prob will have some blue on it if you've been shooting jacketed bullets.
I noticed the change to Winchester branded items. When I looked closely I noticed that they carried the exact same items, just with the Winchester brand. I had purchased a Super Sling 2+ from them a while back and now that exact same sling design has Winchester written all over it. The Remington and Federal bulk shotgun packs seem to be slowly disappearing as well.
JimKirk
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THe Walmart here also carried Leupold scope mounts, not any more, now they have Weaver mounts. I should have bought the Leupold when I had the chance.
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jimmyraythomason
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More proof that profit margine out weighs providing the products that the customers want.
that has always been their business model. they found that if they can get the price low enough, they could sell it even if it wasn't exactly what you wanted.
they use their buying power to force manufacturers to give sell to them at a discounted price...or they don't carry their product.
just proof that supply and demand do indeed work...the only thing is the the demand belongs to Walmart
I noticed the Winchester brand also. Looks like it's all the same stuff, just branded Winchester. I don't know how or why they did that. Like everybody else said, I'm sure the bottom line was involved.
Looks like I'll be buying my Breakfree CLP at Academy. I want it to say Breakfree, not Winchester.
Funny thing is, I remember when Winchester meant quality. Now it seems like they put their name on every little trinket that comes along.
Looks like I'll be buying my Breakfree CLP at Academy. I want it to say Breakfree, not Winchester.
Funny thing is, I remember when Winchester meant quality. Now it seems like they put their name on every little trinket that comes along.
mustang_steve
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Yep, the nature of Walmart is they are not a store for perfectionists...they are a store for the "I want something that works, for cheap" crowd.
I have a list of shops I go to for various goods...it seems none of them carry all of what I like, but they all carry some of what I like. I have to go to clearwater for Hoppes and KG solvents, to Tampa for brushes/jags/pistol rods, to Largo for the patches I like. It's annoying.
What I'd love to see is one shop that sells Hoppes and KG solvents, cotton round cleaning patches, brass "spike-top" jags and bronze brushes without being out of stock all the time, and some brass or composite pistol sized cleaning rods. Oh, and 30mm ammo cans. If wal-mart did that, I'd probably go to them exclusively. Once you find that magic formula of cleaning components, you really don't want to go back.
I have a list of shops I go to for various goods...it seems none of them carry all of what I like, but they all carry some of what I like. I have to go to clearwater for Hoppes and KG solvents, to Tampa for brushes/jags/pistol rods, to Largo for the patches I like. It's annoying.
What I'd love to see is one shop that sells Hoppes and KG solvents, cotton round cleaning patches, brass "spike-top" jags and bronze brushes without being out of stock all the time, and some brass or composite pistol sized cleaning rods. Oh, and 30mm ammo cans. If wal-mart did that, I'd probably go to them exclusively. Once you find that magic formula of cleaning components, you really don't want to go back.
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