Northern Illinois University Shooting

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"....People will just have to either learn to live in fear ... or they'll just have to not think about it."


Actually, this doesn't make me frustrated. This is a welcome bit of reality to me.

Forgive me that I'm posting with about 3 sips of coffee in me and with a sleep-hazed mind. We just got awakened by a tornado coming over. :what:

But anyway...

It's about time that society realizes that the government and/or the authorities cannot do anything to protect you. Did the government miraculously prevent Katrina? It seems that a lot of people really believe that they should have been able to. Has an armed LEO force ever prevented a mass-shooting? No. They manage the aftermath.

The fact is that no amount of government intervention will have a significant impact on something bad happening to you. No amount of preperation of those NOT in that situation at that very time will do anything to stop a tragedy.

Tragedies such as this one can ONLY be prevented by people in that place at that time. And there is no guarentee that they'll be sucessful.


Where I get frustrated is how the media and "experts" repeatedly parrot the same words and sentiment that "ordinary" people could never stop something like this.


I hope you realize that this is a carefully crafted message that HAS an intended purpose.

The "experts" are terrified that there will be a type of "vigilante" movement of empowered and active "ordinary" people. It is their belief that this would cause errors and mistakes. Moreover, they are afraid that this will complicate their job where they may go after the wrong person. Instead they'd rather keep things simplified by making efforts to prevent "ordinary" people from taking actions. If that means that a few more people get killed, well it would be a tradegy, but the lawsuit would likely not come from that-- unlike shooting an "ordinary" person. And after all, things like this will have casualties. No one would blame them for that.

I want to repeat this....

I hope you realize that this is a carefully crafted message that HAS an intended purpose.


I've got a master's in Public Relations w/ emphasis in Crisis and Issues Management. This may be the thing that has jaded me more than anything else.

Before, I would listen to the news and if I disagreed with the editoralizing, I'd just say "What an idiot." Now I realize something:

The statements made are often not by accident. Do you think that the "experts" they put on to discuss events are not coached? Who do you think coaches them? That's right... the PR guy.

Messages can be crafted. Particular words are used with the right inflections as to portray "understood" and "undeniable" truth-- even when it isn't the truth. When a message comes from the PR guy, there are NO candid statements. The playing field has been surveyed and the pieces lined up for one goal:

To tell you exactly what you are supposed to think and believe.


After all... The man known as the "Father of Public Relations," Edward Bernays, himself gave this definition to the art of Public Relations:

"Public Relations is the Art of Engineering Consent."


and that my friends, is a polite way of saying to tell you what to think.



Sadly, it seems a HUGE part of our population fall for this every day from various sources.



-- John
 
MSNBC said:
Va., Ill. shooters had link to same online dealer
Virginia Tech gunman bought pistol; Kazmierczak bought 9mm magazines

MADISON, Wisconsin - The online gun dealer who sold a weapon to the Virginia Tech shooter said it was an unnerving coincidence that he also sold handgun accessories to the man who killed five students at Northern Illinois University.

Eric Thompson said his Web site, http://www.topglock.com, sold two empty 9mm Glock magazines and a Glock holster to Steven Kazmierczak on Feb. 4, just 10 days before the 27-year-old opened fire in a classroom and killed five before committing suicide.

Another Web site run by Thompson's company, http://www.thegunstore.com, also sold a Walther .22-caliber handgun to Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 people in April on the Virginia Tech campus before killing himself.

"I'm still blown away by the coincidences," Thompson said Friday. "I'm shaking. I can't believe somebody would order from us again and do this."

His company, TGSCOM Inc., based in Green Bay, shipped the order Monday, and records of the sale provided to The Associated Press by Thompson show Kazmierczak received the order Tuesday.

Kazmierczak carried a shotgun and three handguns into the classroom Thursday. Thompson said he had no idea whether the shooter used the holster or magazines purchased on the Web site.

Each magazine can hold 33 bullets, Thompson said. He said his site did not sell Kazmierczak any bullets or guns.

Kazmierczak bought two of the weapons used in the shooting — the pump-action Remington shotgun and a Glock 9mm handgun — legally on Feb. 9 in Champaign, Illinois, where he was a student, authorities said.

Thompson said he checked his sales records after the name of the shooter was made public Friday. The records show $105.62 in items were shipped to an apartment in Champaign and signed for by someone other than Kazmierczak.

Thompson said he contacted the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives within five minutes of realizing the latest connection Friday morning.

The Glock Web site is well-known among gun users on the Internet, so it is not surprising that someone looking for accessories for a Glock would find it, Thompson said. But being tied to both of the shootings is "unnerving," he said.

"I still feel just absolutely in shock," he said. "I feel like I was run over by a truck."

Thompson said he has no way of knowing whether Kazmierczak found out about his Web site from the publicity it got after the Virginia Tech shootings, but the thought crossed his mind. Web traffic increased after that shooting, along with phone calls and threats, he said.

It was not clear whether one site linked to the other.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23203455/

Wow, what a shocking link! I never would have imagined that at least two people bought things from an online company!

If this weren't so tragic an outcome to the innocent students and their families, it'd be laughable.

For all of you FFL holders out in THR-land, why would this seller call the BATFE? Is there a CYA element in it? I'm honestly baffled.
 
CYA element in it?
Can't hurt to admit he didn't break the law, at least the media can't hound him now. He probably remembered what happened to Ford when they didn't want to admit their Explorers had a design problem, so he beat them to the punch, good for him. Expect Congress to pass new internet laws soon.
 
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