Nosin Nagant M44 won't close!

[cidirkona]

I think she overheard me telling my friends I was going to put an evil black stock and a scope on her, and she got mad... Since I bought the m-44, I had no problems with it until Sunday. It's obviously been shot plenty -- when I got it, it had a trigger job done to it (nicely done) and the bolt was blued, not chrome-ish like the other ones I've seen.

I put 2 mags of 5 in it and set it down to play with the other toys a little while. When I came back, I put 5 more rounds in her, but she wouldn't close on the first round. I took the round out, and tried again on the second round -- still no luck. I dropped the rest of the ammo and took out the mag spring / follower. It seems as if the bolt would close about half way and then get tighter the further forward it gets until it just stops about an inch and a half short.

The only close place I think it could be binding is on the upper left side of the receiver where the bolt slides through, but I don't notice anything out of the ordinary...

-Colin

 

[secluded]

I'm reaching here but is there any chance that you had a case separation with the last round you fired? That might be still stuck further into the chamber preventing the unfired round from seating all the way?

I know a lot of folks complain of a sticky chamber where the spent case is hard to extract but that's usually due to a dirty chamber.

Take a peek in there with a borelight and see if you can see an obstruction.

Maybe?...

 

[cidirkona]

It does it even when I'm not trying to chamber anything though...?

-Colin

 

[armoredman]

Go to http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/ - that's who I take all my Mosin problems too...sounds like the magazine interrupter. Parts are available, and cheap.

 

[Ouizel]

It does sound like it could be the interrupter/ejector. When you take the action out of the stock, the ejector and spring are on the left side of the action, slightly forward of the trigger. It kinda sounds like it's stuck out, or possibly unseated. If it is unseated, then it's broken. It shouldn't be hard to replace, though.

But, then again, I could be wrong.

Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.

 

[cidirkona]

take the action out of the stock

This doesn't sound like fun...

I'll try that tonight and (hopefully) let you guys know how it goes...

-Colin

 

[armoredman]

There are detailed pictographic instructions at RMNP&F on how do strip it down, also at surplusrifles.com .

 

[cidirkona]

I feel like an idiot, but I fixed it.

I don't know how it came out or why, but the firing pin's rear handle end has a little T-bar that fits into the bolt carrier underneath. Somehow it got pulled all the way out the rear and OVER the slot, rather than into it...

It works just fine again.

-Colin

PS: Has anyone done the stock, scope and bolt-handle conversion on these guys?

 

[Ouizel]

I've been thinking about doing the scout-type scope mount. It's for a long eye relief type scope, so you don't need to modify the bolt on the collectible Mosin Nagant. I've seen them advertised for about $50 for the mount. Just Google "Mosin Nagant Scout Mount" and it should come up.

 

[cidirkona]

Wow, and only 25.99 here! I didn't even know it was made, thanks! I've never really bought a scope before, so how far should the eye releif be for a scope like that?

-Colin

 

[Ouizel]

Any pistol scope or long eye relief (LER) scope should work. Traditional scope buying caveats apply. (i.e. Ya get what ya pay for. A cheap scope is a cheap scope, an expensive scope is probably a good one, and check the name brands. (Bushnell, Leupold etc are good))

As far as actual distance, it would be from just ahead of the bolt to your eye, however far that may be. But, like I said, a pistol scope or LER scope will be fine. You won't get high magnification. I could be wrong, but I think about 3x is about as strong as LER scopes get.