Nosler blemished bullets?

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Anyone shoot Nosler blemished bullets? They are marketed as being cosmetic blemishes only. How’s the consistency and accuracy?

These would be used out to 500-600y so I don’t want to buy several boxes only to find they are inconsistent.
 
In my opinion, Nosler bullets are overpriced so if I buy them, they're blems. I have no complaints with them at all. Their 77 grain BTHP match .224 caliber bullets are what I shoot in my 223s. They have given me the best accuracy even in 1:10 twist barrels they're not supposed to work in.
 
I have had no problems with their blems either. Mostly .224 and 30 cal. You have to have some rally bad problems on a bullet to be a problem like out of round, dented, or wrong size to really affect accuracy from my experience. I have had more problems with pulled bullets that were undersized than with blems. Even the lead being messed up on the tip of a bullet has not been seen as a problem here but I only shot those out to 250 YD.
 
I'm working through a couple thousand Nosler 52 FBHP blems, and have yet to notice anything wrong.
 
Like others have stated, buy them and shoot with peace of mind. I'm using blems and 2nds in 223/5.56, 243, 6.5x55 SE, 256 Newton, 264 Win Mag, 30-06, 30-40 Krag and probably a couple of others I don't recall off-hand. All are accurate and all have taken game.
In fact, the tightest group I've shot lately was with the 6.5x55 SE and some 142 gr Acubond blems - .33" group.
 
I've purchased some Nosler "blems" for my 308 and my Garand. I measured several, and weighed many, but the only thing I found to be "off" was a very slightly rough/ragged hollow point mouth. The bullets shoot better than I can...
 
Thanks all! I ordered 5 boxes of accubonds for the ‘06 and only paid $20.50 per box including shipping. That’s a substantial savings as I usually pay about $34 a box of 50.

Looks like I’ll be able to afford shooting this rifle more often now with my do it all hunting load.
 
I have shot Nosler, Hornady, Sierra and other blems and I have never seen a difference between them and the Retail bullets. I do believe the reject reason is only cosmetic.
 
I do recommend weighing factory seconds. I went through thousands of 168 SMK seconds. A bud filled up several 55 gallon barrels of the things and sold them locally. The weight variance on my batch was much more than first quality, and I found some with very light cores. Once I grouped the things according to weight, they shot well enough for someone shooting them out of a NM Garand to 600 yards. I did shoot them out to 300 yards with a match rifle and they shot well at that distance. A bud of mine, he has several President 100's patches, he weighs first quality match bullets and claims he has found heavy cores, and light cores, in SMK's.

There are several other tests we cannot do that the factory probably can. One of which is jacket concentricity egocentricity and center of gravity. Both of those are critical to accuracy. There was a Juenke bullet machine that measured jacket concentricity. Follow the link to see what they look like.
 
Thanks, slamfire. Perhaps I’ll reserve my last 62 non blemished for field use. I’m concerned with accuracy, but above all terminal ballistics with mulies and elk on the menu.

I may weigh them all when American Idol is on against my will. It will take a bit with the balance beam scale.
 
I have shot about 500 Nosler blems in my .223 as well as about 500 non-blems. They shot the same with the same condtions. Mine WERE blems only after weighing examining with an Optivisor, measuring, etc. (the best I could do) But read carefully the disclaimers on the blems from the retailer, i.e. Midway or ammo r us or whatever. The disclaimers that I have seen go a lot further than just a cosmetic blemish, which opens up a whole new discussion.
 
SPS is great to purchase from. Blems will come boxed or bagged and clearly labeled. If it is a tipped bullet, the tip may be a different color than their color system for caliber or white for accubond, etc. Make sure to weigh every bullet. Once weighed, you are going to partially see why they are blems. This does not mean that they will not shoot well. We as consumers can only test so many things. The factory absolutely knows why they are blems. Otherwise, they would be sold for more as either first quality or "overruns." By weighing each and lining them up according to weight, you should see a Bell curve distribution. For instance, if they are supposed to be 150gr, the majority are going to be 149gr to 151gr, with a few under and over those. The Bell curve may be skewed, but this isn't a statistics class - haha. Now looking at your lined up bullets, you can notice what is missing......the ones that are exactly 150.0gr and the ones that are either 149.9 or 150.1. You may also get a few bullets that are 3.0+ grains or so under or over the advertised weight. They will all shoot... as in, they are able to be loaded into brass and fired. You will not receive "unshootables" from SPS. For most people, after weighing and sorting, this distribution is acceptable.

On spitzer tip bullets, the lead tip may be slightly deformed or shaped differently when compared to firsts.

That said,

If you are really shooting matches, weighing and sorting blems isn't worth it. Just buy firsts (and sort those!) Rifle match loading has so much time and effort in brass prep, charge weights, etc. Weigh a box of match bullets and you should see the difference. Tighter tolerances, less variation and no need to sort out the outliers.

If you are really shooting 500+ yards, just buy firsts. The little differences blems have make significant differences as distance increases.


Quick blem story if you've read this far:
I once bought some 180gr .308 bullets (but not from SPS). They looked as great as first quality. I sorted them by weight, grouped the weights in 0.4gr increments and loaded up some 308 Win. They flat out wouldn't shoot. I'm talking about 3-5moa out of rifle that should be 1.5moa. Ok, maybe I need a different workup for the manufacturer's ogive geometry. A couple different powder and primer workups didn't help. I ended up measuring the length of the bullet and found two distinct groups. Not something that I could see with my eyes, but a quick caliper measurement showed some that were significantly longer than the others. Once I separated them by weight and then length, the accuracy returned. The short story is, blems are cheap, but buyer beware - you don't really know why that lot was rejected.
 
SPS is great to purchase from. Blems will come boxed or bagged and clearly labeled. If it is a tipped bullet, the tip may be a different color than their color system for caliber or white for accubond, etc. Make sure to weigh every bullet. Once weighed, you are going to partially see why they are blems. This does not mean that they will not shoot well. We as consumers can only test so many things. The factory absolutely knows why they are blems. Otherwise, they would be sold for more as either first quality or "overruns." By weighing each and lining them up according to weight, you should see a Bell curve distribution. For instance, if they are supposed to be 150gr, the majority are going to be 149gr to 151gr, with a few under and over those. The Bell curve may be skewed, but this isn't a statistics class - haha. Now looking at your lined up bullets, you can notice what is missing......the ones that are exactly 150.0gr and the ones that are either 149.9 or 150.1. You may also get a few bullets that are 3.0+ grains or so under or over the advertised weight. They will all shoot... as in, they are able to be loaded into brass and fired. You will not receive "unshootables" from SPS. For most people, after weighing and sorting, this distribution is acceptable.

On spitzer tip bullets, the lead tip may be slightly deformed or shaped differently when compared to firsts.

That said,

If you are really shooting matches, weighing and sorting blems isn't worth it. Just buy firsts (and sort those!) Rifle match loading has so much time and effort in brass prep, charge weights, etc. Weigh a box of match bullets and you should see the difference. Tighter tolerances, less variation and no need to sort out the outliers.

If you are really shooting 500+ yards, just buy firsts. The little differences blems have make significant differences as distance increases.


Quick blem story if you've read this far:
I once bought some 180gr .308 bullets (but not from SPS). They looked as great as first quality. I sorted them by weight, grouped the weights in 0.4gr increments and loaded up some 308 Win. They flat out wouldn't shoot. I'm talking about 3-5moa out of rifle that should be 1.5moa. Ok, maybe I need a different workup for the manufacturer's ogive geometry. A couple different powder and primer workups didn't help. I ended up measuring the length of the bullet and found two distinct groups. Not something that I could see with my eyes, but a quick caliper measurement showed some that were significantly longer than the others. Once I separated them by weight and then length, the accuracy returned. The short story is, blems are cheap, but buyer beware - you don't really know why that lot was rejected.
good info sir
 
It's a crap shoot, with polymer tipped rifle bullets sometimes it's wrong color tip but sometimes it's a improperly seated tip. Sometimes it's just cosmetic. With the partition's there maytbe some bullet nose deformation.
With pistol bullets I have found only once with .357 jhp that the cannelures varied.
All in all I have had good luck with their seconds, but I have the luxury of living near by and seeing what I'm buying.
 
WAY back in the day I bought about a thousand or so (by weight) 180 gr. Partitions. They shot as well as the full price nonblems, but I moved on to other things. Still got about 600...
 
peakbagger46 asked:
Anyone shoot Nosler blemished bullets?

Yes. I bought a considerable number about a year ago. I have not shot them against unblemished Nosler bullets, but (after proper load development) they did replace first-rate Hornady XTP bullets in my 45 ACP SD loads and I can't tell the difference.
 
Anyone shoot Nosler blemished bullets? They are marketed as being cosmetic blemishes only. How’s the consistency and accuracy? These would be used out to 500-600y so I don’t want to buy several boxes only to find they are inconsistent.


When I shot HP competition (mostly out to 600 but occasionally to 1000) I used SMK and they did not ship 2nds. 2nds were sold @ plant only.

No longer compete, so I use only Nosler seconds for hunting (and of course load development of hunting loads) and other than packaging have never found any difference in the 2nds. No first hand experience w/them past 350 yds, but they work great for my use.

100 yard load workup and zero check targets give excellent accuracy:

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^^5th shot "hanging chad" :cool: @ 1 o'clock^^ ^^Savage Scout .308 Win.^^
35611090741_ca8b950ace.jpg <<This was a zero check on Savage .338 Win Mag. Rifle/load consistently shoots 5/8" groups & is so predictable that I fired #1 (210 NP), corrected scope Rt. 1/2" down 1" and fired #2. Wanted to check POI w/same load behind a 200 gr. Nos. CTST, fired #3 and went hunting.

Not to say careful weighing and/or measurements of these bullets might not turn up something, but they have always shot very well and performed as expected on game, most @ 300 yards or less. The scimitar horned oryx & coyotes below were w/.338 WM & 200 gr. CTST @ 155 yds, don't recall range on the coyotes. VVV

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^^^Gemsbok above was with .338 WM using 210 NP @ 345 yds.^^^
Have lost count, but my 338 WM shooting 210 NP has accounted for over 30 nilgai cows since 2004.VVV
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My partner and I were primarily doing predator control when land owner asked us to take out all the hogs we could. Over a ten day period we shot 36 hogs, approx. half of which I took w/ 5.57, 55 gr. NBT's including these three:

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My favorite bullets are: BT for predators, accubond and/or NP for larger game. Having said that, have shot a lot of hogs with 55 gr. NBT's from a .223 and they performed flawlessly w/accurate placement, all of them seconds!

Regards,
hps
 
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