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Not again.......! Feral Hog Control in East Texas

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Flintknapper, May 13, 2009.

  1. Twmaster

    Twmaster Member

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    Roads...

    Flint, (or anybody) how often will hogs use roads? We saw what may have been hog droppings in the dirt road that leads back to the property we shoot on.
     
  2. Flintknapper

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    Hi Mike,

    For the most part...hogs will simply take the shortest (safe) route to and from their destination.

    BUT... they will certainly take advantage of anything that offers easier traveling.

    This might be in the form of Ranch Roads, Pipe Lines, Utility Line Easements, Dry Creek Beds, Edges of Fields, etc...

    If I were looking for Hog sign on unfamiliar property, I would look three places (in this order):

    1. Water Sources (look for tracks and wallows)
    2. Cruise the roads and look for tracks (they may cross the road or run parallel with it)
    3. Walk perimeter fencing and look for crossings

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  3. Twmaster

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    Thanks Flint. Next time were are out there we'll follow up on your suggestions. The mule was out of gas yesterday so a trip to the back side of the property to eyeball the tank was out.

    None of us were dressed for a cross country trek. (Sneakers and shorts...) :D
     
  4. Atom Smasher

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    Me and a buddy are hitting Sam Houston public land in the next few weeks to try and find some pigs to shoot (and eat!) :D Seeing your pictures and set-ups is pretty awesome, thanks for posting!

    And as always, if you've got a bit of private land and need someone to shoot some hogs, I'll drive just about anywhere in Texas ;)
     
  5. CharlieDeltaJuliet

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    Dang man, I wish I felt like coming out and taking a couple. Hog and Noose are the only two game I will still hunt. They both are favorite thing to eat and I would be hard pressed to choose. I'd probably go on north to grab a moose, but I loves me some bacon and pork tenderloins....
     
  6. IWAC

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    Flintknapper:
    Those are downright BEAUTIFUL! :)
     
  7. captaintony

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    Have you tried thermocell?
     
  8. Double Naught Spy

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    If you like brief hunting vids, here are a few from this year. It has been a banner year for hunting where I am. They aren't all large, but there are plenty of them.

    The first two vids are from a neighbor's property where just recently we are trying to reduce the number of hogs with his cattle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdvOonU4FQ&feature=c4-overview&list=UUG6la_HDvAobPBTDtj5B-lQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbqcdOobS4&list=UUG6la_HDvAobPBTDtj5B-lQ

    Vid from another property of the shooting of a mulefoot sow...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSPUs0Gv6Ms&list=UUG6la_HDvAobPBTDtj5B-lQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h28vbH2syTo&list=UUG6la_HDvAobPBTDtj5B-lQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0uOLjAU244&list=UUG6la_HDvAobPBTDtj5B-lQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnFmlv1aR8c&list=UUG6la_HDvAobPBTDtj5B-lQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy1LBsRyHGg&list=UUG6la_HDvAobPBTDtj5B-lQ
     
  9. Twmaster

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    Nice vids DNS.

    What sort of night gear are you using?
     
  10. Double Naught Spy

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    Rem 788 308 rifle, 150 gr ammo, Pulsar N550 Digisight night vision, TNVC IR illuminator.
     
  11. Flintknapper

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    Good work DNS!

    Have you had a chance to look through the new 750 yet?
     
  12. Twmaster

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    Ow! That Pulsar is neat. But spendy!
     
  13. Double Naught Spy

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    I have played with the N750! It is nicer than the N550, plus as a 1.5x (I think) electronic zoom as well as being of better resolution. It is the same size and weight, but better electronics inside. They are now about $1600 on sale, from what I have seen.

    The N550 is no longer being made, but you can still find them for sale. I like them. Despite coming with their own illuminators, I like to supplement the illuminator with a better one.

    The N550s still go for $1300 from what I have seen. If I was buying one today and could get the N750 for the extra 300, I would. If I could find an N550 closer to $1100, I would choose it.

    Less spendy is a new scope coming out under the Sightmark brand called the Photon. It is a budget digital NV scope. I have played with one in the daytime and will get a chance to play with one at night in a week. In Europe, they are marketed as Yukon Photons. You can find several videos on Youtube for them. If the Euro exchange converts to here, they should be less than $700 and certainly good out to a couple hundred yards for coyotes or hogs.

    As I said, I like my N550. You can day or night hunt with it, though it isn't the be all to end all of day scopes, it is very functional. I have taken several hogs in daylight with mine.
     
  14. Twmaster

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    I found a 550 on Amazon for $850. I just wish I could justify buying one.

    Seems almost a must for hog hammerin' here in Texas.
     
  15. Double Naught Spy

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    Night vision is a good thing for helping hammer hogs, be it traditional or digital. Same for thermal. Some people are good and turning on flashlights and shooting. I wasn't one of those people. :banghead:
     
  16. BigBore44

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    3 days and 1465 posts later....

    Flint,
    A story and then a question as it relates to my experience with hogs. Earlier in this thread you and another gentlemen were talking about being as scent free as possible and the other guy was talking about how he makes no effort to be.

    What I have found when I go to set corn out for hogs is that they relate to two things, sound and scent. I did a little experiment over several months with my trail cams and found that if I'm loud and not scent free that the hogs will show up very shortly after I leave. I whistle in the woods, slam my truck door, urinate (when I needed to go) by the corn, even and especially smoked when setting corn out. What I was trying to test and the experiment showed (at least here) was I could condition the hogs to associate the sounds, and smells of me being in the woods, to food.

    When I first spotted the hog sign I went home, grabbed a 5 gallon bucket of corn, diesel, koolaid and beer that I had mixed up about 6 months earlier, and headed back to the woods. Set my trail cam up and broadcast spread the corn out over a large area and sat down for a smoke. It took 4 days before I saw any hogs on my trail cam. But they absolutely tore that place up.

    The next time I went out, I just used some brew I had made a week earlier. It was hot and it's quite a walk to get to this spot. When I finished setting the corn out a got a few big drinks and sat down to cool off and had a smoke. Well the water hit me about 10 minutes later and I had to "go". So, I went. That night I had hogs. Coincidence? Maybe so, I thought.

    4 days later same routine. Except I get a call while I'm in the woods. It's a good friend of mine and I sat and BS'd with him while I was setting the (just plain now) corn out. Had another smoke, relieved myself. And reset the cam. 2 hours later I had hogs.

    Long story just a little bit shorter. I switched from broadcast spreading to burrying the corn. And it got to the point that I could literally go through the routine, walk 100 yards away, walk back, and there would be hogs feeding. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think they had been conditioned to associate my sounds and smells with food. FYI: "They" were several different sounders and probably 7-10 different boars that I conditioned. They never all came at the same time, but other than a couple boars, they would show up different days.

    So do you think this would work in your area also or are your hogs to transient and high pressured? Our hogs get quite a lot of pressure in spring and fall, but not much in the summer.

    Also like almost everyone else on here, I really enjoy this thread. Thank you for starting it and continuing to contribute to it.
     
  17. Flintknapper

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    Hi BB,

    Thanks for your post. Most interesting.

    Your experience supports my long held belief that Feral Hogs 'Are quick to make associations'. Whenever I state: "Hogs are smart", I don't mean to imply that they are capable of reasoning....or have abstract thoughts, BUT they do learn quickly.

    It doesn't take a hog 4-5 experiences (stimuli) before it makes up it's mind that something is good or bad.

    In your case, the hogs have learned to associate your activity (at a bait site) with a free meal.... and have taken advantage of that opportunity.

    Once learned, they would take that 'association' with them until forced to change.

    Hogs (most places) are transient by nature, so I don't think that would be a factor when comparing yours to ours. Hunting pressure...on the other hand....has a decided effect on them.

    Our hogs still come to automatic feeders....and I am sure they hear me when I fill the feeders or go to check game cameras. They just don't come out until after dark...or the wee hours of the morning...because of hunting pressure.

    Feral hogs will adapt to the conditions under which they live. It may be at the cost of a few of the herd, but they adjust and learn quickly.....so we will ALWAYS have them around.

    Keep after them!

    Flint.

    Edit: Checking my game cams a while ago....reveals this small group has been at the feeders last night and the night before:

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  18. Flintknapper

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    Five hogs in the trap this evening, (a Sow and 4 of her brood). According to game cam pics, two others in the group (shoats) did not enter the trap, so I will need to go sit on a stand and see if I can pick off those stragglers.

    Too tired tonight, might go early in the morning.

    Called four different people I know... to see if anyone wanted some hogs (these are all small), but couldn't get anyone to take them. Will leave them in the trap overnight and try again tomorrow. If no one steps up....they will be 'recycled'.

    You can click on this short video...to see that this small sow was none too happy:

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    Drive into a cow field, get out and slam the door. You'll have every cow in the field turned and looking at you in under a minute, as they associate vehicles with food/feeding time. They would change that behavior soon if you shot any. Pigs wouldn't be any different.
     
  20. retrieverman

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    Flintknapper

    I "recycled" three last yesterday evening with a rifle in Appleby. My brother has been wanting an "eating size" pig, and all three of these were 30-40 lbs. He was too busy at the time to bother with it, and I am not going to beg anyone to take them. The buzzard and coyotes have to eat too.

    Here is a picture of the one I killed walking in that was under the legs of my stand.
     

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    I have a Russian on the wall(taken in the mountains of Vermont in '05) but, sure would like a Javelina to go along with him?
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  22. Flintknapper

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    Well……fortunately I found a person that not only wanted the hogs but ‘needed’ them, so they went to a good cause after all.

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    I helped him skin them….and he left with 5 hogs that will eventually make table fare for his family.

    Sometimes, things actually work out.
     
  23. Flintknapper

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    Sweet rifle Retrieverman!

    Is it a drilling?
     
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    It is a Blaser BBF97 combo gun in 12 ga over 308.
     
  25. Flintknapper

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    ^^^^^^^^^^

    I see that it has double triggers.

    Are the triggers the method by which you select your barrel, or is there a 'selector' elsewhere and the rifle then capable of firing the remaining barrel?
     

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