Ballistic Mule
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Well done. Looks like a sweet rig there. Do you hunt'em every night Flint?
Not again.......! Feral Hog Control in East Texas
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pikid89
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killed a 190lb Bar Hog in swfl with a Glock 19 to the head this evening
FLAvalanche
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Nice shootin Flint.
Lightninstrike
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Damn. Now I want a .458 SOCOM upper for my AR platform......
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Flintknapper
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Before building the SOCOM....I was mainly using a 7mm-08. It did fine...but I always felt concerned when less than ideal shot angles (steep raking shots) were presented. Normally, I'd just wait for a better shot.
The SOCOM puts 'em down hard, RIGHT THERE, RIGHT NOW, ONE SHOT!
I haven't yet had any weird angles to shoot from with this rifle....but I am confident that with a proper bullet (Barnes TTSX, Banded Solid, etc), I could shoot them from ANY angle (coming to me, going away, hard quartering) and still reach the vitals.
Another bonus, even with some of my hotter loads....recoil is very manageable.
The SOCOM puts 'em down hard, RIGHT THERE, RIGHT NOW, ONE SHOT!
I haven't yet had any weird angles to shoot from with this rifle....but I am confident that with a proper bullet (Barnes TTSX, Banded Solid, etc), I could shoot them from ANY angle (coming to me, going away, hard quartering) and still reach the vitals.
Another bonus, even with some of my hotter loads....recoil is very manageable.
FLAvalanche
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Went up and checked my camera and they were all turned off...Interesting.
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Flintknapper
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Another example of coons and hogs feeding and interacting. We talked about this recently.
As previously stated...I most often see this associated with a lone boar.
I truly believe boars (and other hogs)...will utilize "coon trails" as a tool to locate food and water when they first enter unfamiliar territory. (But don't depend on them...of course)
They seem to know that coons will be the first to find water and food in any given area.
I've seen this much too often for it to be mere coincidence (but I could be wrong
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Flint.
As previously stated...I most often see this associated with a lone boar.
I truly believe boars (and other hogs)...will utilize "coon trails" as a tool to locate food and water when they first enter unfamiliar territory. (But don't depend on them...of course)
They seem to know that coons will be the first to find water and food in any given area.
I've seen this much too often for it to be mere coincidence (but I could be wrong
)Flint.
Pardon me if this question has already been asked but I don't have the time to read through all 21 pages. Due to my job I'll be going to Georgia next year and plan on getting in some hog hunting. My question is this. I have a Marlin 1894SS in .44 mag that I would like to use. I load it with handloads which consist of a Speer 240gr JSP over 24gr of H110 for about 1750fps. Will this combo be effective on wild pigs?
308win
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Pigs are getting smarter
longdayjake
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Sounds like a vegan has been hiking there. Just curious but what pictures did it get before it was turned off? My dad has pictures of a guy that turned his deer cameras off. All I know is he had better not ever run into someone with long hair and tie dye bandana while he is out setting up cameras or there will be trouble.
My gun range guy has pigs that act like dogs. They seem to be smart enough to stay away from targets and really active ranges. Anyway Larry the gun range owner has no boars. He waits until the the females go into heat and sits on his front porch and pops the Boars as they try to mount the sows...He has more pork and sausage than a regular meat packing plant. You might try a cheap bow set up and really have some fun..would get a 40 or 45 pound re-curve and some arrows all for less than $200 bucks and you can pretty much shoot anytime anywhere. The shorter the bow the more finger pinch so prolly anything less than 60" might not work for you. The pigs in the pictures were small but I highly recommend do not expect them to just lay down and die when shot; protect yourself in case one gets pissed and comes after you. Many years ago I gave up my guns cause in my demented way I thought they were unfair (point and shoot they die etc etc) and got into archery. A normal guy can get plenty good with a bow out to fifty yrds in a short time. Longer shots up to 100yrds are certainly not impossible. You can go spend big bucks on the compound super pulley 12 cam mo-moes and you can reach out and touch a pig with an arrow traveling over 300ft + per second. Sounds kinda wimpy when an AR is going 3250ft per but more than adequate for Oinkers.
FLAvalanche
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There weren't any pictures on the cameras at all. They are the cheap WalMart Bushnell Trail Scouts and are absolute garbage and have turned themselves off before.
But all three in one night? I don't think so. Once is an occurance, twice is a coincidence, three times is a problem.
I have gotten pictures of people carrying what appeared to be tubing through the field at 4 am and one of the neighbors stopped me to see who I was because he's convinced people are growing drugs further on it because he's had people walking through his property in the middle of the night carrying stuff also.
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Flintknapper
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O.K. guys.....lets keep it hog related and not turn this into a "chat room" for every game-camera/other story you can come up with.
You can start a new thread for that.
Thanks,
Flint.
You can start a new thread for that.
Thanks,
Flint.
Ike R
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My times with hogs
This is One of the most interesting and infomative hog threads on the entire internet.
For those interested in Hog Hunts near Houston,Texas there is a former farmer here in Winnie that does them at the price of $50 an evening, it was Bowhunt only but have heard rumors that he has gone to guns. He does not promise a kill, however before I fell into my hunting area I made a kill 90% of the time with my bow. Largest boar I have seen off the place was near the 550 mark, they are corn fed and clean to eat. he gave up farming because he couldn't get rid of them fast enough and began raising deer, bison, and released russian strain boars (at least thats the rumor) to make the hogs more marketable.
PM Me if you want any more information.
I now hunt over 3000 acres belonging to a local ricefarmer, of which 1000 of them are not available to hunt from september to feb as those are the main hunting season's around here and that land is leased to other hunters dureing that time. That fact there makes it hard to control the hogs on said property, we can however trap them still. We exterminate nutria rats, coons (on the land with crawfish farms), coyotes, and, my favorite, hogs.
We spotlight at night with a tika 7mm 08 and me on my AR in 5.56, we don't use night vision, infrared ect ect, just 2 spotlights and 2 guns. I shoot the smaller hogs, useing the neck shot Flint uses while my hunting partner drops the larger ones, our record for one night is 25 hogs from 60 to 300 pounds. Largest hog we have shot was an out of the blue sow that walked up on our coyote setup she was in the 600 range, i took her with a triple tap to the chest area useing 2 55 grain ball ammo and one 63 grain tracer round. She was running at me and she was very upset lol, most likely the closest call I will ever have while hunting here in the States.
Best time we have found to catch them at night is on a full or near full moon, dureing the day we search for shallow water sources in deep cover. If its been a hot afternoon and a sudden Texas T Storm rolls in, we roll out as that will make them move early and often they can be caught in wide open ground. At one point and time we could drive a Mule within 15 feet of them and slaughter indescriminatly if it was raining and thundering, now however thats impossible.
A local rice farmer rented a chopper out of Beaumont a few months ago (600 dollars for 4 hours) and killed 78 before he ran out of ammo, his weapon of choice was a Saiga 12 gauge shooting slugs, had a high capacity drum mag on it. Largest 2 hogs he shot where 2 sows that weighed in at 737 and 786. As he made kills he dropped Helium filled aluminum ballons with weights tied on the bottem of them so that his workers could come drag them out of the ricefield. These particular sounders, aprox 5 of them, where destroying up to 10 acres of crop a NIGHT!, most of it merely from them moveing from one point to another. Another farmer here in Town hunts them out of a para sail useing a saiga, their record is 25 in 4 hours. These two farmers are STILL haveing hog trouble,
Me and my partner give our meat to anyone who is needy and asks, failing that the local state trapper takes it and uses it for cyanide traps for coyotes, other hunters may want to consider doing the same as the state does not pay for the trappers bait, game wardens may have a use for it too as on more than one occasion I have been asked by them if we had any fresh kills in the field.
This is One of the most interesting and infomative hog threads on the entire internet.
For those interested in Hog Hunts near Houston,Texas there is a former farmer here in Winnie that does them at the price of $50 an evening, it was Bowhunt only but have heard rumors that he has gone to guns. He does not promise a kill, however before I fell into my hunting area I made a kill 90% of the time with my bow. Largest boar I have seen off the place was near the 550 mark, they are corn fed and clean to eat. he gave up farming because he couldn't get rid of them fast enough and began raising deer, bison, and released russian strain boars (at least thats the rumor) to make the hogs more marketable.
PM Me if you want any more information.
I now hunt over 3000 acres belonging to a local ricefarmer, of which 1000 of them are not available to hunt from september to feb as those are the main hunting season's around here and that land is leased to other hunters dureing that time. That fact there makes it hard to control the hogs on said property, we can however trap them still. We exterminate nutria rats, coons (on the land with crawfish farms), coyotes, and, my favorite, hogs.
We spotlight at night with a tika 7mm 08 and me on my AR in 5.56, we don't use night vision, infrared ect ect, just 2 spotlights and 2 guns. I shoot the smaller hogs, useing the neck shot Flint uses while my hunting partner drops the larger ones, our record for one night is 25 hogs from 60 to 300 pounds. Largest hog we have shot was an out of the blue sow that walked up on our coyote setup she was in the 600 range, i took her with a triple tap to the chest area useing 2 55 grain ball ammo and one 63 grain tracer round. She was running at me and she was very upset lol, most likely the closest call I will ever have while hunting here in the States.
Best time we have found to catch them at night is on a full or near full moon, dureing the day we search for shallow water sources in deep cover. If its been a hot afternoon and a sudden Texas T Storm rolls in, we roll out as that will make them move early and often they can be caught in wide open ground. At one point and time we could drive a Mule within 15 feet of them and slaughter indescriminatly if it was raining and thundering, now however thats impossible.
A local rice farmer rented a chopper out of Beaumont a few months ago (600 dollars for 4 hours) and killed 78 before he ran out of ammo, his weapon of choice was a Saiga 12 gauge shooting slugs, had a high capacity drum mag on it. Largest 2 hogs he shot where 2 sows that weighed in at 737 and 786. As he made kills he dropped Helium filled aluminum ballons with weights tied on the bottem of them so that his workers could come drag them out of the ricefield. These particular sounders, aprox 5 of them, where destroying up to 10 acres of crop a NIGHT!, most of it merely from them moveing from one point to another. Another farmer here in Town hunts them out of a para sail useing a saiga, their record is 25 in 4 hours. These two farmers are STILL haveing hog trouble,
Me and my partner give our meat to anyone who is needy and asks, failing that the local state trapper takes it and uses it for cyanide traps for coyotes, other hunters may want to consider doing the same as the state does not pay for the trappers bait, game wardens may have a use for it too as on more than one occasion I have been asked by them if we had any fresh kills in the field.
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Flintknapper
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Sky wrote:
You mean something like this:
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Three custom made Acadian Woods longbows and one “Tree-Stick”.
I make my own strings, arrows and flint arrowheads to hunt with.
I have been a traditional bow-hunter for 40 yrs now. I have many more kills with a bow than with my rifles.
Archery has always been my first love…..but it is not the most efficient way to control Feral Hogs, so when “push comes to shove” concerning hogs, out come the firearms….now than I’m getting older.
You mean something like this:
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Three custom made Acadian Woods longbows and one “Tree-Stick”.
I make my own strings, arrows and flint arrowheads to hunt with.
I have been a traditional bow-hunter for 40 yrs now. I have many more kills with a bow than with my rifles.
Archery has always been my first love…..but it is not the most efficient way to control Feral Hogs, so when “push comes to shove” concerning hogs, out come the firearms….now than I’m getting older.
FLAvalanche
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How do those hand made serrated edge broadheads penetrate? I've had problems with serrated edge broadheads penetrating. They seem to get slowed down heavily by the thick skin and fat of hogs.
My bow is shooting near 300 fps and three blade G5 Montecs or 2/4 blade Magnus Stingers penetrate well. I have an older 150 grain 3 blade serrated broadhead and I've tried Magnus Stinger Buzzcuts and neither one penetrate hogs to my liking.
My bow is shooting near 300 fps and three blade G5 Montecs or 2/4 blade Magnus Stingers penetrate well. I have an older 150 grain 3 blade serrated broadhead and I've tried Magnus Stinger Buzzcuts and neither one penetrate hogs to my liking.
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Flintknapper
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FLAvalanche wrote:
The reason is simple, "properly" made points are thinner at tip than at the base and the cross section is lenticular. In layman's terms: You have a very sharp "wedge" that "parts" the hide and tissue.
A serrated edge will tend to "snag" on certain things (long hair, tendons, sinew) especially if those items are perpendicular to the cutting edge upon impact.
If you're shooting a heavy enough arrow....it really shouldn't present a problem for you. Also, some folks consider anything less than a "pass through" to be poor penetration. If your broadhead reaches the "off-side" of the animal, it has done its job.
Yes, I like an exit hole...and pass throughs (better blood trail)....but I don't think my arrow has failed...if it does not skip through the animal and into the next county.
I nearly always get pass throughs on deer, often times on hogs as well (except for big ones hit near the shoulder), but... I shoot a 70 lb. bow and my hunting arrows weigh well over 700 grs.
Very well. In fact... I have tested them against some of my steel broadheads (Zwickey Deltas and Black Diamonds) and they consistently out penetrate them in both foam targets and in the field on game.
The reason is simple, "properly" made points are thinner at tip than at the base and the cross section is lenticular. In layman's terms: You have a very sharp "wedge" that "parts" the hide and tissue.
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A serrated edge will tend to "snag" on certain things (long hair, tendons, sinew) especially if those items are perpendicular to the cutting edge upon impact.
If you're shooting a heavy enough arrow....it really shouldn't present a problem for you. Also, some folks consider anything less than a "pass through" to be poor penetration. If your broadhead reaches the "off-side" of the animal, it has done its job.
Yes, I like an exit hole...and pass throughs (better blood trail)....but I don't think my arrow has failed...if it does not skip through the animal and into the next county.
I nearly always get pass throughs on deer, often times on hogs as well (except for big ones hit near the shoulder), but... I shoot a 70 lb. bow and my hunting arrows weigh well over 700 grs.
FLAvalanche
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That may be the problem with the hogs. I'm shooting carbon arrows. I may try some aluminum arrows and see how they work.
SciFiJim
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I think a .44 mag lever rifle will do a pig just fine. A cast wide flat point bullet at under 100 yards should leave a hole on both sides. A jacketed hollow point will work well as well.
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Flintknapper
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Sky wrote:
Da Nada!
Now.......grasshopper, try to snatch the pebble from my hand.
Da Nada!
Now.......grasshopper, try to snatch the pebble from my hand.
FLAvalanche
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Yeah, a .44 Mag lever action will do just fine. I originally thought about just that with a good red dot for a pig gun until I found the .50 Beowulf. The .50 just out-cools the .44.
Great thread Flintknapper.
I had a friend of mine email this to me yesterday titled "interesting read" and he was right!
A little while back my BIL had some hogs tearing up his yard (he's got a creek that runs thru his woods) and we baited them up close to the house and wired a motion detector to a radio by his bed, they showed up that night and he got the biggest sow and another smaller one out his window with his Mini14.
I had a friend of mine email this to me yesterday titled "interesting read" and he was right!
A little while back my BIL had some hogs tearing up his yard (he's got a creek that runs thru his woods) and we baited them up close to the house and wired a motion detector to a radio by his bed, they showed up that night and he got the biggest sow and another smaller one out his window with his Mini14.
Lightninstrike
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I think we know where the THR moniker came from now.
