Nothing on Browning remaking the A5?

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Well I'll be jiggered with a purple barbed jiggering stick!! :what:

I'll be really anxious to see how bad they screwed it (the A5) up!!

rc
 
The advertisement trailer doesn't really mention it but I wonder if this new A5 automatically self adjusts for different size loads/shells or do you have to take the forearm off and switch the friction washers around like on the original based on the type of shell you're using.
 
Well, the add says this about that:
ACTION 3" chamber • Recoil operated Kinematic Drive is ultra-reliable and cycles a wide range of loads.
In fact, the iconic humpback-shaped receiver is the only thing this new Browning autoloader shares with its legendary namesake.
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SO it sounds to me more like some sort of a Benelli type inertia system then an A-5 long-recoil system.

rc
 
Heavy metal music seems to accompany all the new product launch trailers these days.

I figured it was a new Browning shotgun that a they were going to call the A5, rather than reintroduce the A5.
 
It seems to me that Browning, more than any other gun company, continues to bring out "the ultimate" shotgun about every year, greatest thing since sliced bread, makes your present gun obsolete, etc etc. Have they actually come full circle back to a recoil-operated A5 look-alike? Good grief. I figured out that recoil guns are more reliable than gas guns long ago and have stayed with A5s and Benellis -- wonder why it took them so long.
 
I figured out that recoil guns are more reliable than gas guns long ago and have stayed with A5s and Benellis -- wonder why it took them so long.
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Because they don't want the average joe going out there making their gun look bad. I can't tell you the number Benelli owners I've run into who think their Rotary bolt recoil operated super fancy stock puss pad sportin Benelli is all that an a bag of chips. Even had a few do a shoot off with me and my Sweet 16. One guy predicted my gun would jam or misfire on every shot whereas his Benelli wouldn't. Guess who was leaving the range in a cloud of embarrassment that day??? Not me.

Plus, Browning has a reputation with recoil-operated auto loaders to uphold. They produced the best selling shot gun of all time in the A5 and it sold like hot cakes from 1902 to 1998. I'd be willing to be this was due to the fact that you didn't feel like you were kicked by a rented mule when shooting a gas gun vs a recoil operated A5. If Browning is going to reintroduce the recoil operated auto loader with the A5 name plate, it had better be as good as the original.

My only question is, and others in this thread have brought it up, how will it handle your Wal-Mart value pack of shells? Will it need a recoil ring flip for light or heavy loads or will that short action recoil spring in the bolt be able to do the job with light loads?

I am highly interested in it. But, I have used a Sweet 16 as my go to field & clays gun for years. I'd buy it in a second if in the new A5 they brought back the legendary Sweet 16. A 20ga framed gun with as big a bore as possible to fit on it.
 
This is kind of a fail. I like browning and all, but if it's not recoil operated then it's not an A5. The Franchi 48 AL is more like it.
 
I've been shooting an A5 Light 12 for almost 4 decades. That monstrosity pictured on the Browning website is no A5. It's a sad ripoff of a historic and great name. :barf:
 
It's the A5 name and styling being used to market an entirely different shotgun.

Let's take it right from Browning's website:

You may notice a family resemblance, but let’s get one thing straight, this ain’t your Grandpa’s Auto-5. In fact, the iconic humpback-shaped receiver is the only thing this new Browning autoloader shares with its legendary namesake.
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This is kind of a fail. I like browning and all, but if it's not recoil operated then it's not an A5.
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It is recoil operated. Its not a long-recoil operated action, its a short-recoil operated action per the Browning website:

The all new Browning A5 is built to be the most reliable, fastest cycling, best performing and softest shooting recoil-operated (yes, recoil-operated) autoloader on the planet.
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KINEMATIC DRIVE™ SYSTEM
In its simplest term, kinetic energy is the energy of motion. The new Browning A5 makes better use of kinetic energy with its powerful, short recoil-operated Kinematic Drive System. Kinematic Drive harnesses recoil energy and converts it into the mechanical motion needed to operate the action. This concept is tried and true, and now perfected by the company that broke ground first with autoloading shotguns. The beauty of Kinematic Drive is the simplicity of design for consistent, reliable function with any load and under the full extremes of weather, temperature, moisture and grime.

We believe the new Kinematic Drive is so reliable that the A5 is the first ever autoloading shotgun to carry a 100,000-round or five-year guarantee. This gun is designed to work, come hell or high water. Operation is clean because gases are sent out the barrel and away from the action. There’s also extreme load versatility. The extensively tested Kinematic Drive offers reliable performance with virtually all loads down to 7⁄8 ounce light target with no adjustments.

The photo at right shows how the new A5 harnesses recoil energy.

Top -- Gun is at rest
Middle -- Gun fires and the internal spring accumulates recoil energy
Bottom -- The spring bounces back, unlocking and cycling the action.
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Before saying it isn't one thing or the other, read the product description before commenting on it. I'd have made all the same above criticisms had I not read before I posted and I'd be looking like a fool for it.

The new A5 has monster expectations & shoes to fill. I'm convinced its the modern evolution of the old A5, but the quality of the gun & reliability of operation on all loads needs to be equal to or better than the original A5. I'm holding judgment on it till I see and fire one.
 
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Well, I don't know about looking like a fool?

I said in post #4 it sounded like a Benelli Inertia system.

After looking at the diagram you mentioned just now, that I didn't see the first time?

It is like a Benelli Inertia System.

rc
 
I'll probably get one. No, it's not really an A5. The New Ford Mustangs aren't a 1970 Boss 302 either, but they sure look neat, and are faster, more reliable and comfortable to drive than the originals.
 
Browning has been down this road before A-500, A-500G, B-80 etc. But now they hi-jack the name because, they own it. Not a good enough reason.
 
I thought the one I owned years ago was called a Browning Auto 5. The A5 seems like an attempt to appeal to those who like that monstrous (to me) shape with a more modern inertia system. If you liked the Auto 5 you should like it, too. Browning doesn't make junk in my opinion. I just don't like inertia systems, or recoil systems, at all. If you do, and you haven't looked at a Franchi 48, you have may have missed something you'd love.
One point of correction.
Plus, Browning has a reputation with recoil-operated auto loaders to uphold. They produced the best selling shot gun of all time in the A5 and it sold like hot cakes from 1902 to 1998.
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Not exactly. The Remington 1100 passed it in production numbers long ago to become the best selling semi auto shotgun of all time, and the Remington 870 is way out in front of everything else at over 10,000,000 produced.
 
but let’s get one thing straight, this ain’t your Grandpa’s Auto-5
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Well then I'm not interested. My grandfather's A5 simply worked. If all the new Auto-5 shares is the receiver profile, I have no interest in it.
 
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