IJ1981
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Beto has extremely bad wiring. Not one firearm will be lost due to his histrionic ravings.
He may be a Texan by birth but not by his DNA!
He may be a Texan by birth but not by his DNA!
The only way the dems will stop being the party of gun control is if liberals vote in dems who refuse to go along with it and vote out those who do.
That goes for all parties of course, vote out the antis.
I do believe it's the case of extreme socialist left infiltrating and ruining the Democrat party as we have known it and just as us "deplorables" have stood up against the RINOs (who also have infiltrated the Republican party) and voted for Trump, decent and lifelong Democrats can also stand up and take back their party.I am glad that Beto said what he did. One of the great things our current president has accomplished which doesn’t get much mention is this: He has caused many on the radical left to come out and say what they have long believed concerning the demolition of our freedoms guaranteed in the constitution and the Bill of Rights.
As to citizens being able to use "modern" firearms/technologies for application of the Second Amendment, following is expressed in District of Columbia v Heller opinion of the court - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
"Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications ... and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search ... the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."
"Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment."I've ... added my own, and for a particular reason. You are correct in that Heller contains the language you quoted. With that said, do not overlook the importance of the language I've underlined above. When SCOTUS called the argument about "only those arms in existence in the 18th century [being] protected by the Second Amendment[,]" it chose the word 'frivolous' for a very specific reason.
Absolutely."Shall not" is a non-negotiable, rigid standard. A lawyer shall not (as opposed to may not or should not) bring an action or defend one, unless there is a non-frivolous basis for doing so. IMO, SCOTUS was saying that the attorneys were right on the edge of professional misconduct by making that argument, because there was no good faith basis in law or fact for making it.
Very good points and the key underlying focus and intent of this thread from the beginning that Spats McGee nailed right on the head.We should also focus on ... the motivations behind his totalitarian proposals.We should focus on his proposals
That web site ("The Young Turks" of Cenk Uygur) is unhinged. Uygur is so far left that he was thrown off MSNBC. The fact that he denies the Armenian Holocaust says it all. And also that he's one of the few defenders of Beto O'Rourke.Starting at 4:00 minute mark of video, Schumer, Buttigieg, Manchin and even CNN's Cuomo ripped O'Rourke for saying what he said about gun ban/confiscation.
Only because it hurts their anti gun agenda to say it out loud, Schumer is a gun hater from way back and would jump at the chance to take all of our guns, he's just smarter than Beto. But if it comes up for a vote, Schumer and his ilk will vote for any anti gun bill that comes along.Starting at 4:00 minute mark of video, Schumer, Buttigieg, Manchin and even CNN's Cuomo ripped O'Rourke for saying what he said about gun ban/confiscation.
A definite rift has opened within the antigun side regarding their tactics. This is because of Beto's intemperate rantings. We see the emotional ones versus the more strategic, calculating ones. If we were smart we would exploit this rift.Only because it hurts their anti gun agenda to say it out loud, Schumer is a gun hater from way back and would jump at the chance to take all of our guns, he's just smarter than Beto. But if it comes up for a vote, Schumer and his ilk will vote for any anti gun bill that comes along.
And we have more than a year to "exploit" the rift. I am sure NRA and other pro gun/2A organizations along with RNC/pro gun law makers are in deep discussion/planning to maximize/optimize the "rift" effect heading into 2020 election.A definite rift has opened within the antigun side regarding their tactics. This is because of Beto's intemperate rantings. We see the emotional ones versus the more strategic, calculating ones. If we were smart we would exploit this rift.Only because it hurts their anti gun agenda to say it out loud, Schumer is a gun hater from way back and would jump at the chance to take all of our guns, he's just smarter than Beto. But if it comes up for a vote, Schumer and his ilk will vote for any anti gun bill that comes along.
Only because it hurts their anti gun agenda to say it out loud, Schumer is a gun hater from way back and would jump at the chance to take all of our guns, he's just smarter than Beto. But if it comes up for a vote, Schumer and his ilk will vote for any anti gun bill that comes along.
I generally agree with your entire post, which I have snipped for brevity.And we have more than a year to "exploit" the rift.
If what you fear happens, then we can support the 2020 presidential election win by Trump to push the Supreme Court bench pro gun/2A to overturn state's unconstitutional laws.All the Democrats have to do is flip one seat in each chamber to have the "trifecta" of state government. They've already shown what they plan to do on guns. The worst thing is a complete ban (no grandfathering) on "assault weapons" and over-10-round magazines. They'll give us six months to move the offending items out of state. If we don't, then we'll be felons and all our guns will be forfeited. (No so-called "buyback." This is actually worse than what Beto is proposing at the federal level.)
Bingo! We have a winner.Which makes it all the more telling when you notice the people going, "Well, he's right, but, that's not the way we would do it." We have seen the people behind the curtain; we need to make sure that everyone else needs to realize that the magic lights show is just that, theater.
That the people cavalier about one Constitutional right are likely to be as cavalier about all the rest, too.
I don't doubt he wasn't convicted, but isn't hit and run a felony?Source on O'Rourke being a felon? Far as I've found, he's never so much as faced a felony charge, let alone been convicted.
The problem with that is that the decent lifelong Democrats are busy making a living and raising their families. The ones driving the party to the left make a career out of "resistance". Don't imagine for a moment that a huge percentage of those "protesters" aren't getting paid. Soros, Steyer and Bloomberg aren't running out of money any time soon.I do believe it's the case of extreme socialist left infiltrating and ruining the Democrat party as we have known it and just as us "deplorables" have stood up against the RINOs (who also have infiltrated the Republican party) and voted for Trump, decent and lifelong Democrats can also stand up and take back their party.
Yep, "frivolous litigation" is a legitimate "cause of action" (something you can sue someone for).While I am not a lawyer, when I read "frivolous" for the first time, I was surprised by use of that word in a Supreme Court opinion!
That's sadly actually common among Turks.The fact that he denies the Armenian Holocaust says it all.
Suggestions for how to do so?A definite rift has opened within the antigun side regarding their tactics. This is because of Beto's intemperate rantings. We see the emotional ones versus the more strategic, calculating ones. If we were smart we would exploit this rift.
I don't think it's long-time Virginians, I heard Virginia has gotten a lot more lefties in recent years... some work in DC, some work in industries that have recently found the state welcoming.I generally agree with your entire post, which I have snipped for brevity.
However, zero hour is approaching much more quickly here in Virginia. The legislative election is a little more than a month away. All the Democrats have to do is flip one seat in each chamber to have the "trifecta" of state government. They've already shown what they plan to do on guns. The worst thing is a complete ban (no grandfathering) on "assault weapons" and over-10-round magazines. They'll give us six months to move the offending items out of state. If we don't, then we'll be felons and all our guns will be forfeited. (No so-called "buyback." This is actually worse than what Beto is proposing at the federal level.)
And the thing is, they are proudly running on this platform! My email inbox is full of tens of messages every day. Gun control is the only thing they're running on! I don't understand it. Surely Virginians have not become rabid gun abolitionists overnight. Maybe I'm missing something.
Yes, Warren wants a full registry.Beto hasn't a chance to take the nomination BUT it wouldn't surprise me if Warren won the nomination and picked Beto as her running mate.
Her proposals on gun control are far, far worse than his.
And if she were to win the Texas Electoral College....it's game over.
... let's not wander into straight politics. Beto has to be the focus.
Just being "anti" Beto and this,Suggestions for how to do so?A definite rift has opened within the antigun side regarding their tactics. This is because of Beto's intemperate rantings. We see the emotional ones versus the more strategic, calculating ones. If we were smart we would exploit this rift.
And we have more than a year to "exploit" the rift. I am sure NRA and other pro gun/2A organizations along with RNC/pro gun law makers are in deep discussion/planning to maximize/optimize the "rift" effect heading into 2020 election.
Yes, he certainly gave us some powerful arguments.Now, my discussions with people post Beto "Hell yes, ..." rant has become much much easier. All I have to do when talking to voters (especially undecided) is inquire if they own a gun and ask what their response to Beto's "Hell yes ..." rant and it's automatic from there.
For non-gun owning voters, I segue into "What if Beto said 'Hell yes, we are taking your First Amendment and Fourth Amendment'?" and it's automatic from there.