Now there are TWO States with Vermont Style Carry! Enter ALASKA!!!!!!!!

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That's right, now Alaska also has Vermont style carry! This is a major victory for us gun owners and human rights in general! Check it out!


http://www.adn.com/alaska/story/3280484p-3310005c.html

"No permit needed to carry concealed guns
IN 90 DAYS: Governor signed bill, praising it as a Second Amendment victory.


By MIKE CHAMBERS
The Associated Press

(Published: June 12, 2003)
JUNEAU -- Alaskans will no longer need a permit to carry a concealed weapon under a bill signed into law Wednesday.

In signing the bill, Gov. Frank Murkowski lauded the work of the Legislature and the National Rifle Association in protecting the Second Amendment rights of Alaskans.

The bill would adopt the so-called "Vermont Carry" law that allows residents to carry a concealed weapon without a special permit. Vermont has no laws against carrying concealed weapons, the governor's office said.

In Alaska, someone who applies for a concealed handgun permit is required to take a handgun course certified by the state Department of Public Safety.

Rep. Eric Croft, D-Anchorage, said he sponsored the bill out of frustration with continually fine-tuning the state's gun laws.

"I object to the government putting a precondition on that constitutional right (to carry a weapon). I'm presumed to be a responsible citizen until proven otherwise," Croft said.

House Bill 102 does not eliminate the state's concealed handgun permit program. The governor's office said Alaskans could still apply for a permit in order to carry a concealed weapon in other states or to be exempt from background checks when purchasing firearms.

But the bill, which takes effect in 90 days, would allow Alaskans who can legally carry a firearm to carry it concealed without such a permit.

It does not change prohibitions against carrying firearms into courthouses, school yards, bars and domestic violence shelters.

About 17,000 concealed handgun permits have been issued in Alaska, said Greg Wilkinson, a spokesman for the Alaska State Troopers.

The measure will aid gun owners particularly in rural areas where handgun safety courses may not be readily available, Croft said.

While the measure won broad support among lawmakers -- more than half in the 60-member Legislature signed on as co-sponsors -- it did have its detractors.

Sen. Con Bunde, R-Anchorage, was among 10 lawmakers voting against the bill. Bunde said current Alaska law requires someone to understand their legal obligations and demonstrate proficiency before receiving a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

He said people often misuse handguns because of a lack of firearm education and training.

"I am a strong gun advocate and very concerned that every time someone misuses a gun, particularly a handgun, we lose in the court of public opinion," Bunde said.

Also signed into law was a bill to require the state Department of Public Safety to recognize all concealed carry permits issued in other states.

The gun bills were among nearly a dozen new laws signed by Murkowski during a ceremony in Wasilla. Some of the highlights:

• Senate Bill 41 would create a new law crafted specifically to target Medicaid fraud. Overpayments and fraud are estimated to cost the state between $70 million and $170 million each year.

• House Bill 267 expands the bonding power of the Alaska Railroad Corp. to allow it to issue up to $17 billion in tax-exempt bonds for a natural gas pipeline.

• Senate Bill 26 allows state employees called to active military service to continue receiving pay and benefits. It is retroactive to Sept. 11, 2001.

• Senate Bill 177 also allows retired state employees to continue to receive a 10 percent Alaska cost of living allowance if called to active duty.

• And Senate Bill 148 allows eligible Alaskans on active duty to be gone from the state longer and still receive a Permanent Fund dividend check. It lengthens the time they and their spouses are allowed to be gone from the state to 180 days, in addition to their time on active duty. The current restriction is 45 days. "
 
Another thought on this

I wonder if everyone Outside knows that we've already been able to carry, concealed or otherwise, outside the few major urban areas. It's part of the "sporting/bear protection" exception. Frankly, I don't think this change is going to impact me all that much, other than justifying my laziness in failing to get a CCW. All it means now is that I'll be able to pack in Anchorage.

It will also probably prompt me to spend some money on an old beater Speed Six or a pre-war .38 Special snub nose. I like those old DA's. Once I have the money, that is.
 
"I object to the government putting a precondition on that constitutional right (to carry a weapon). I'm presumed to be a responsible citizen until proven otherwise," Croft said.
This guy gets it. Why is this so hard to understand...

- Gabe
 
Personally, I like the way Alaska does it more than Vermont. Alaska at least keeped it's CHL licensing statute for those who need reciprocity with other states as well as be exempted from background checks.
 
All you have to do is avoid Canada. I wonder if the West Coast cruisehips that go up there will allow you to bring your guns?
 
wildalaska, i assume you are referring to the overlooked topic of cities having their own regulations and laws regarding concealed carry?

i have this idea in the back of my head that i read somewhere that cities and municipalities cannot have stricter laws than are on the state level. this had to do with some cities not allowing open carry while the state said it was 'okay'. for some reason i feel that this would fall in the same category. if the state says its legal, than cities and municipalities go by the same rules.

i'm probably wrong, and i'm sure someone could point me to the appropiate laws that say 'cities and municipaliies can have stricter laws than the state'.
 
Hmmmm, this could be much adoo about nothing.

If local laws against CCW still apply, then NOTHING has changed. You can carry anyway you want outside the city, but not inside. Same as it is today.
 
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