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ALEX TABARROK From the community
Oakland's gun buy-back misfires
Contra Costa Times
Article Launched: 02/23/2008 03:03:55 AM PST
On Feb. 9, Oakland police, led by state Sen. Don Perata, D-Oakland, offered to buy handguns and assault weapons for $250 each, "no questions asked, no ID required." The "One Less Gun" buy-back program attracted so many eager sellers that the money quickly ran out. But instead of closing up shop, the police handed out IOUs good for a future buy back. The Oakland police are now stuck with a bill for $170,000.
The buy back has been criticized as a poorly organized fiasco, but even the critics say it was "the right idea" and "a step in the right direction."
On the contrary, the buy back was a bad idea from the beginning. Gun buy backs have been tried before, in cities from Seattle to Washington, D.C., and they simply don't work.
In an authoritative study, the National Academy of Sciences reported that "the theory underlying gun buy-back programs is badly flawed and the empirical evidence demonstrates the ineffectiveness of these programs."
It doesn't take much insight to understand why gun buy backs don't work. Gun buy backs attract low-quality guns from people who aren't likely to use them to commit crimes. The Oakland police, for example, bought a dozen guns from seniors living in an assisted-living facility. Are you relieved to know that Perata disarmed these dangerous senior citizens?
The Oakland buy back was especially absurd because of the high price offered: $250. Why didn't anyone running the program think to look at the price of a new gun? In fact, the first two people in line at one of the three buy-back locations were gun dealers with 60 firearms packed in the trunk of their cars.
One wonders why the police even bothered to buy the guns from Oakland residents. Why not buy directly from gun manufacturers?
Of course, buying guns from manufacturers is so obviously an absurd way to reduce the supply of guns that it has never been proposed.
Nevertheless, the idea is no less absurd when Oakland residents serve as the middlemen between the manufacturers and the police.
Buying a few thousand guns in Oakland is not going to make it more difficult for criminals in Oakland to get a gun.
There are 150 million to 200 million guns in the United States, so there are plenty of low-quality guns to be sold. An Oakland gun buy back is like trying to drain the Pacific -- every bucket of water you take out is instantly replaced. Even large gunbuy-back programs are unlikely to have significant effects. Australia spent half a billion dollars buying guns, with no significant effect on homicide by firearms.
Imagine that instead of guns, the Oakland police decided, for whatever strange reason, to buy back sneakers. The idea of a gun buyback is to reduce the supply of guns in Oakland. Do you think that a sneaker buy back program would reduce the number of people wearing sneakers in Oakland? Of course not.
All that would happen is that people would reach into the back of their closet and sell the police a bunch of old, tired, stinky sneakers.
Gun buy backs won't reduce the number of guns in Oakland. In fact, buy backs may increase the number of guns in Oakland.
Imagine that gun dealers offered a guarantee with every gun: Whenever this gun gets old and wears down, the dealer will buy back the gun for $250.
The dealers' guarantee makes guns more valuable, so people will buy more guns.
But the story is exactly the same when it's the police offering the guarantee. If buyers know that they can sell their old guns in a buy back, they are more likely to buy new guns. Thus the more common gun buy backs are held, the more likely they are to misfire.
Recognizing that gun buy backs don't work is neither pro- nor anti-gun. We all want to reduce gun crime in Oakland. Yet the Oakland police and concerned private citizens have spent $250,000 on a policy that doesn't work and that everyone who has studied the issue knows does not work.
The guns bought in this buy back are destined to be melted down to create a monument.
It's a shame that this monument will be the only lasting effect of the buy back.
Tabarrok is research director for the Independent Institute in Oakland, and associate professor of economics at George Mason University.
They probly sold some great guns (.22s, .38s) besides the junk ones. makes me sad.
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GUEST COMMENTARY
ALEX TABARROK From the community
Oakland's gun buy-back misfires
Contra Costa Times
Article Launched: 02/23/2008 03:03:55 AM PST
On Feb. 9, Oakland police, led by state Sen. Don Perata, D-Oakland, offered to buy handguns and assault weapons for $250 each, "no questions asked, no ID required." The "One Less Gun" buy-back program attracted so many eager sellers that the money quickly ran out. But instead of closing up shop, the police handed out IOUs good for a future buy back. The Oakland police are now stuck with a bill for $170,000.
The buy back has been criticized as a poorly organized fiasco, but even the critics say it was "the right idea" and "a step in the right direction."
On the contrary, the buy back was a bad idea from the beginning. Gun buy backs have been tried before, in cities from Seattle to Washington, D.C., and they simply don't work.
In an authoritative study, the National Academy of Sciences reported that "the theory underlying gun buy-back programs is badly flawed and the empirical evidence demonstrates the ineffectiveness of these programs."
It doesn't take much insight to understand why gun buy backs don't work. Gun buy backs attract low-quality guns from people who aren't likely to use them to commit crimes. The Oakland police, for example, bought a dozen guns from seniors living in an assisted-living facility. Are you relieved to know that Perata disarmed these dangerous senior citizens?
The Oakland buy back was especially absurd because of the high price offered: $250. Why didn't anyone running the program think to look at the price of a new gun? In fact, the first two people in line at one of the three buy-back locations were gun dealers with 60 firearms packed in the trunk of their cars.
One wonders why the police even bothered to buy the guns from Oakland residents. Why not buy directly from gun manufacturers?
Of course, buying guns from manufacturers is so obviously an absurd way to reduce the supply of guns that it has never been proposed.
Nevertheless, the idea is no less absurd when Oakland residents serve as the middlemen between the manufacturers and the police.
Buying a few thousand guns in Oakland is not going to make it more difficult for criminals in Oakland to get a gun.
There are 150 million to 200 million guns in the United States, so there are plenty of low-quality guns to be sold. An Oakland gun buy back is like trying to drain the Pacific -- every bucket of water you take out is instantly replaced. Even large gunbuy-back programs are unlikely to have significant effects. Australia spent half a billion dollars buying guns, with no significant effect on homicide by firearms.
Imagine that instead of guns, the Oakland police decided, for whatever strange reason, to buy back sneakers. The idea of a gun buyback is to reduce the supply of guns in Oakland. Do you think that a sneaker buy back program would reduce the number of people wearing sneakers in Oakland? Of course not.
All that would happen is that people would reach into the back of their closet and sell the police a bunch of old, tired, stinky sneakers.
Gun buy backs won't reduce the number of guns in Oakland. In fact, buy backs may increase the number of guns in Oakland.
Imagine that gun dealers offered a guarantee with every gun: Whenever this gun gets old and wears down, the dealer will buy back the gun for $250.
The dealers' guarantee makes guns more valuable, so people will buy more guns.
But the story is exactly the same when it's the police offering the guarantee. If buyers know that they can sell their old guns in a buy back, they are more likely to buy new guns. Thus the more common gun buy backs are held, the more likely they are to misfire.
Recognizing that gun buy backs don't work is neither pro- nor anti-gun. We all want to reduce gun crime in Oakland. Yet the Oakland police and concerned private citizens have spent $250,000 on a policy that doesn't work and that everyone who has studied the issue knows does not work.
The guns bought in this buy back are destined to be melted down to create a monument.
It's a shame that this monument will be the only lasting effect of the buy back.
Tabarrok is research director for the Independent Institute in Oakland, and associate professor of economics at George Mason University.
These gun buyback schemes make me wonder why don't these anti gun movie stars and buisness owners start their own buyback with their own money?
They had one here in Los Angeles, but instead of $250 per gun the officials gave out gift cards to Target, Toys R Us, Best Buys, etc. but value ranged from $20-$100.
Guns actually bring peace to this country. How ironic is that?