NRA instructors?

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I am 99.9% into a hunt/gun club close to home and they do quite a bit of activities throughout the year with target shoots, etc.

I was thinking of becoming an NRA instructor either for pistol or range safety but wondering is it really worth it?

I already have a state peace officers firearm certificate so I know the ins and outs of firearm safety, instruction, qualify yearly, etc.

does anyone know if they will just let you test out instead of sitting through their class?

the instructor class is kind of pricey but the safety officer isn't too bad.
 
ohihunter2014 said:
I already have a state peace officers firearm certificate so I know the ins and outs of firearm safety, instruction, qualify yearly, etc.

Are you a police officer? My dept paid for all of my NRA classes. All I have to do in return is qualify our officers.
 
NO-I work Section 8 housing and former Armored truck. In Ohio we have to certify with Police instructors on a 20+ hour class then 6hours or so range a year. we re do the written and class portion for 3hrs then live fire for 2hours
 
Being an NRA Instructor isn't just about proving that you are well versed in firearms and associated things. The instructor classes are to teach someone who knows guns how to teach the way the NRA wants the classes taught. They have a specific methodology to how things are to be done. It's very different than something like Front Sight or other more tactical classes. I got my certifications through BSA (scouting, not the scope manufacturer) at a significant discount based on an agreement that I won't use the certifications for profit unless I pay the difference prior to that. Everything I do is volunteer at this point so I don't get paid. Most of it is for local scout groups.

The Range Safety Officer cert is a little different because it's not an Instructor certification.

Matt
 
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Not sure what you mean by "worth it." I've been an NRA instructor for several years and team teach 10-12 classes a year. It's worth it to me when someone who's never fired a gun before is able to put 50 rounds in a 10" target at 7 yards and has a big grin doing it.
 
As an NRA Training Counselor of 25+ years, I am involved in "instructor" training. Probably about 60% of the people who attend instructor training think they already know everything about guns and only need to "qualify" then be given the certificate. Very few of these really know HOW to teach the fundamentals of shooting. Most have an inflated opinion of themselves based on their personal experiences. Being a good shooter does not mean you are a good teacher/coach.

Becoming an NRA certified Instructor is all about TEACHING the NRA instructional method, a proven, simple system that helps beginner shooters to become successful so they can practice what they have learned and improve over time.

The NRA Basic Pistol course in now a partially "Online" class. You can take this course by clicking this link: https://onlinetraining.nra.org/online-courses/nra-basics-of-pistol-shooting-course/

Once you have completed this course, you can register with a NRA Pistol instructor to complete the hands on live-fire portion. IF you can score at least a 90% on the exam then demonstrate sufficient proficiency on the shooting portion to qualify as an instructor candidate you can take the instructor class. The online class costs $60 and is a good beginning for someone contemplating becoming an NRA Pistol Instructor. At least you will end up with a good idea of what is taught in a properly run NRA firearms class.
 
If you intend to volunteer your time at shooting events, etc., I'd say get your certifications in whatever discipline you're interested in. The cost is minimal, and if you ever want to volunteer someplace besides your "home" range it'll be easier to convince them that you're "legit". And like other posters have said, the NRA certifications provide a standard framework for training that covers all of the basics; some other certifications tend to gloss over some important aspects since they're geared more specifically to a particular organization.
 
Been an NRA instructor for years. I found their class to be very logical and informing.
Hundreds or students with smiles on their faces.

Go for it.
 
As an NRA Training Counselor of 25+ years, I am involved in "instructor" training. Probably about 60% of the people who attend instructor training think they already know everything about guns and only need to "qualify" then be given the certificate. Very few of these really know HOW to teach the fundamentals of shooting. Most have an inflated opinion of themselves based on their personal experiences. Being a good shooter does not mean you are a good teacher/coach.
Ain't that the truth.
 
Ain't that the truth.

Huge +1.

When I was going through instructor training, one instructor candidate brought the wrong kind of ammunition for his gun. (9x21 instead of 9x19, or something like that? Can't recall exactly, it's been a few years).

Anyway they loaded the gun up but it jammed up their handgun on the range something fierce - a serious enough jam it could not be cleared by the RSO's. The instructor candidate had to be sent home with a loaded firearm (albeit loaded with the wrong cartridge and partially out of battery, so it was unlikely to fire). This was a tough position to put the TC in, because transporting a loaded firearm, at the time, was a felony under state law; but there was no choice, that cartridge wouldn't come out.

The candidate (predictably) failed the instructor course.

It's the only time I've ever heard of someone failing the NRA instructor training course, and the only instructor candidate that the TC had ever failed, which kind of speaks volumes on it's own. Show up, pay your money, sit through the class, get your certificate, and start teaching. It was a certificate mill, plain and simple. And, more than a little disappointing. At the end of the day everyone gets a gold star and a pat on the back.

The first actual firearms class I ever took was basic pistol - it was a requirement to be able to take the basic pistol instructor course. So I picked a basic pistol class and signed up for it.

The class lasted 4 hours. The instructor handed out a photocopied powerpoint slideshow to folks. (No books). The instructor used the word weapon at least 2 dozen times an hour. The instructor handed out guns to pass around the class, there was no safe direction to point them when they got to you, of course, since there were 25 students in the class sitting at rows of tables. The instructor went on a 30 minute rampage about Diane Feinstein. The instructor had brought his own concealed carry gun in to class (with ammo, he had to unload it), and went on a dialog about concealed carry for about an hour (as the class was also promoted and marketed as Utah and Florida concealed carry class). Then class was dismissed about noon, and we met later that evening at a shooting range.

I was expecting some training, some one on one time, etc. The instructor sat in the corner and handed out targets. Everyone shot 15 rounds to 'qualify' on a concealed carry human silhoette target, then we were sent home.

There was no real training. No practical exercises. No first shots. No coaching of technique. Nothing.

And the kicker? At the time I had no idea that ANY of that was the polar opposite of how the NRA wanted classes to be taught until I took the instructor course myself.

That was when I raised my concerns about the other instructor, wrote the NRA, and eventually (a year later), after a campaign of complaints that I'd launched, the instructor in question had his NRA credentials revoked, and his IL Concealed Carry instructor credentials revoked.

But, those hundreds of other students he milled through... they had no idea they were getting bad instruction. I shudder to think that it's the only training - or experience with a trainer - that they've ever had, to this day, as most people only do the bare minimum training required to get "whatever" (in this case an out of state CCW permit), and never go back to get any additional training.

Anyway, you get bad apples with every group, but the NRA's "mill 'em all through" attitude towards instructors leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

There are a LOT of people who are teaching concealed carry and firearms instruction who by all rights have no business doing so. They're inherently dangerous, and only doing it to make easy money on the side.
 
Trent said:
Anyway, you get bad apples with every group, but the NRA's "mill 'em all through" attitude towards instructors leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

That's really an individual TC failing and certainly not true across the board.. of course, that doesn't stop people from TC shopping until they find someone who will pass them.

The teaching team I am part of down here isn't afraid to not qualify people We generally get 1 or 2 per class that get offered Assistant Instructor and 1 every other class that is asked to leave. We also limit our instructor classes to 8 to 10 candidates max and use 3 people to teach it, so we are certainly less profit conscious than some of the other teaching teams out there.

About a year ago we took a trip to OK to teach a PPoH student class to some NRA instructors up there that needed it to try to become PPoH instructors. We discovered on the range that one of the instructor/students didn't know what her dominant eye was or how to test for it. Another of the instructor/students had 36 hits on target of 250 rounds fired. NRA pulled both of their credentials and those of the TC who had certified them. We actually had to take a trip back up several months later so the two instructors could re shoot qualifications to try to get their credentials back. The NRA is serious about getting these yahoos out of their program when they find out about them. Unfortunately like I said, there are plenty of unscrupulous TCs out there. Which is why you have to fly to VA to take the TC class now.

The move to blended learning is also working it's way into the instructor qualification side to improved candidate quality. You can't sign up for an instructor rating course now without having passed the associate online course, which admittedly isn't much, but I've already heard from plenty of people who "don't have the time".. ie, can't be bothered. A lot of instructor candidates are having trouble passing the mandated pre-course shooting qualification. I tell everyone by phone and in email ahead of time that the course of fire is 20 rounds at fifteen yards, must make a 6 inch group with 16 rounds. I'm still waiting for someone to walk up to the line, take a few breaths, find their natural point of aim, do some dry fire, fire a round of two, put the gun down, relax, take another shot etc. Nope. Freaking OK Coral at NRA qualifications. Doesn't bother me. If you don't pass, no skin off my back. I even had one guy that failed miserably tell me that he had passed the CHL shooting test so that should be good enough. LOL. Okay buddy. You have to be better than borderline to be an instructor.
 
I earned my Rifle discipline instructor credential several years ago when my son was in Scouts. There were a few of us that had been in the military and/or had been around firearms all our lives. The rest were people that were trying to fill a need that the BSA had for instructors in the shooting sports.

I respect that later group because most of them really didn't have that much knowledge but learned quickly. Still, there are some that i didn't want anywhere around me teaching kids how to shoot.
 
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