NRA_we need more money
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jcwit
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Amen---Old Fuff
Very well said!
Very well said!
black ridge,
Then send your money to the NRA-ILA instead.
BTW, Jorg is right on target. The safari and what went with it, short of air fare, was donated, just like the local gun shops donate firearms and accessories for the local Friends of the NRA chapters to auction/raffle off. The money that you would have paid if you hadn't been annoyed by the telephone calls and the mailings wouldn't have been used so some NRA member, who'd have never had the chance to go on such a hunt without the NRA and the companies that donated all the goodies, could go.
If you don't want your money to even go to the NRA-ILA donate it to the local Friends of the NRA chapter and spend a little time with them working on the local level to support your rights.
If you don't want to do that take a half hour every week to contact your local and state and federal politicians by phone or letter to tell them you're a voter and that you expect them to protect your right to keep and bear arms.
Then send your money to the NRA-ILA instead.
BTW, Jorg is right on target. The safari and what went with it, short of air fare, was donated, just like the local gun shops donate firearms and accessories for the local Friends of the NRA chapters to auction/raffle off. The money that you would have paid if you hadn't been annoyed by the telephone calls and the mailings wouldn't have been used so some NRA member, who'd have never had the chance to go on such a hunt without the NRA and the companies that donated all the goodies, could go.
If you don't want your money to even go to the NRA-ILA donate it to the local Friends of the NRA chapter and spend a little time with them working on the local level to support your rights.
If you don't want to do that take a half hour every week to contact your local and state and federal politicians by phone or letter to tell them you're a voter and that you expect them to protect your right to keep and bear arms.
jpwilly
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black ridge it sounds like everyone answered your question even gave you good enough reasons to stay in the game. But you want to be a loner. That's fine Vote, Write your Congressman or women and be safe. Nobody here is angry with you. Good Day.
black ridge
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I just want everyone to know that I am 100% pro-gun.I hunt and shoot for recreation. I was raised up in it. It shouldnt even be a question wheather or not we should keep our guns it is our right. I live in the south and guns our very much a part of our heritage. I do vote,I just dont want things to be the way they have to be. Its all about the money.
black ridge
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I will not bow down that easy to anything begging me for money
Jorg Nysgerrig
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When did the NRA ask you to bow down?
Some folks just don't get it.
Gun Slinger
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Nobody here said that you had to. Throw the "junk" mail away without reading it if you don't like it.
Ya, you're right. It is about the money.
The reason the anti-gun crowd hates the NRA so much is one time, after another, after another... over the years their plans for disarming us have been dashed, because in some way the NRA successfully blocked what they were trying to do. Sometimes it was because they lost a lawsuit, or sometimes it was because they lost an election, and sometimes it was because a law they wanted didn't happen, or one they didn't got passed.
Sometimes the NRA did what they did in the open, and sometimes they stayed in the background. But year after year they were there, and because of that we are now in a much better position then we were back in 1968.
You cannot protect our firearms rights on the cheap. It costs money, and a lot of it. That money comes in both large and small amounts, donated in one way or another, to fill the NRA's war chest.
Because we are in a war, and one way or another it will take money to win it.
lanternlad1
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"I will not bow down that easy to anything begging me for money"
Then don't.
All the Brady Foundation does is ask for money too. And the ACLU. And PETA. And the 2nd Amendment Foundation. All big orgs do it. That's how they get to be big orgs. By posting here and telling us that "its all about the money", you assume that you know something we don't. Trust me. We know. Money is the grease in the American Machine.
I stopped supporting the NRA when they first tried to derail the Heller case, fearing that it would fail, and when it succeeded, actually took partial credit for it. That was it for me. It really had nothing to do with money.
Then don't.
All the Brady Foundation does is ask for money too. And the ACLU. And PETA. And the 2nd Amendment Foundation. All big orgs do it. That's how they get to be big orgs. By posting here and telling us that "its all about the money", you assume that you know something we don't. Trust me. We know. Money is the grease in the American Machine.
I stopped supporting the NRA when they first tried to derail the Heller case, fearing that it would fail, and when it succeeded, actually took partial credit for it. That was it for me. It really had nothing to do with money.
230RN
2A was "political" when it was first adopted.
Don't be so stiffnecked, black ridge.
What do you do when they pass the plate in Church?
Chuck in a buck and pass the plate?
Chuck in nothing and pass the plate?
Chuck in the "recommended*" $35,000 times 10% divided by 52? (=$67.31)
Here's the plate. Now what?
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* Numbers 18:26. Cf also Leviticus 27:30; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5)
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black ridge
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Thank you Old Fuff. Thats the explaination Ive been looking for. I guess I just asked the question the wrong way. By the way, I am not whining thats the way things are. Open your eyes folks, money is the root of all evil. It will take down any man, even a good man or ORG eventually.
Not wanting a sorry fact to be a certain way don't make it not a fact. National politics is an expensive proposition any more.
The fact is that the antis are well funded by large foundations and enormously wealthy individuals who act as their patrons. They pour money into taking away your right to keep and bear arms like the floodgates of a dam.
By contrast, the gun rights organizations, like the NRA and GOA and ..., all are made up of a bunch of individuals who make a living wage and who have families and mortgages and car loans and ... Not foundations and patrons that can pour millions into the fight. So, it takes dollars to fight dollars, or hours to fight hours, whichever can be donated. Our little dollars have to be added together to match the millions from just one anti patron. Of course the pro2A groups beg for money.
Now, I mentioned "hours to fight hours". Those dollars also represent the hours of work that can be paid to take away your and my rights. If you don't like the way your dollars might get used then donate your hours supporting RKBA. Thats what your dollars would be used for anyway, buying hours for people to try to persuade others that our cause is just.
Don't like the NRA, support GOA. Don't like either of them? Support JPFO. Support your state organization or go it solo and become a one person activism effort. Just do something constructive to support RKBA.
The fact is that the antis are well funded by large foundations and enormously wealthy individuals who act as their patrons. They pour money into taking away your right to keep and bear arms like the floodgates of a dam.
By contrast, the gun rights organizations, like the NRA and GOA and ..., all are made up of a bunch of individuals who make a living wage and who have families and mortgages and car loans and ... Not foundations and patrons that can pour millions into the fight. So, it takes dollars to fight dollars, or hours to fight hours, whichever can be donated. Our little dollars have to be added together to match the millions from just one anti patron. Of course the pro2A groups beg for money.
Now, I mentioned "hours to fight hours". Those dollars also represent the hours of work that can be paid to take away your and my rights. If you don't like the way your dollars might get used then donate your hours supporting RKBA. Thats what your dollars would be used for anyway, buying hours for people to try to persuade others that our cause is just.
Don't like the NRA, support GOA. Don't like either of them? Support JPFO. Support your state organization or go it solo and become a one person activism effort. Just do something constructive to support RKBA.
money makes the world go 'round. not love, not desire, or satisfaction, or whatever. money. everything is about money and the world as we know it today exists as it does because of money.
evil or not, money makes it happen. doesn't matter what 'it' is, money makes it go.
get comfy w/ the idea, then get in the game or sit on the sidelines - but it really is all about money.
evil or not, money makes it happen. doesn't matter what 'it' is, money makes it go.
get comfy w/ the idea, then get in the game or sit on the sidelines - but it really is all about money.
lanternlad1
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"evil or not, money makes it happen. doesn't matter what 'it' is, money makes it go."
Just a quick point:
Money is not evil. The LOVE of money is (the root of all) evil.
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
BUT
Ecclesiastes 10:19
A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.
Money is the answer for everything.
Even that which should not need an answer.
Like constitutional rights.
Sigh...
Just a quick point:
Money is not evil. The LOVE of money is (the root of all) evil.
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
BUT
Ecclesiastes 10:19
A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.
Money is the answer for everything.
Even that which should not need an answer.
Like constitutional rights.
Sigh...
black ridge
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My negative words tword the NRA are not tword the cause. Its very sad that the people in this country cant see two foot in front of them to see what would happen if the guns were taken away. The sorry people that kill people are causing all of this. I do know we have to stick together but I would like to find another way.
Jorg Nysgerrig
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You have the floor. We'd love to hear how you propose to have impact the RKBA without the evils of money and big organizations. I would be quite interested in getting involved in such project.
We're all ears.
black ridge
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Ive thought about this problem a lot of times. You all know as well as I do there is a lot of major problems in this country, not only our rights being taken away but the prices of food, the fuel problems our jobs being taken away and so many others. I realize what im going to say is very dangerous for us and our families but we need a revolution. CLEAN SLATE
Jorg Nysgerrig
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And with that, this one is done.
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