Of course none of the victims was TOLD this beforehand...No, you are supposed to leave your baggage with the airlines who will then place it on your connecting flight in the morning. Since you can't have possession of your gun in NYC, it makes no sense to claim the baggage.
These "people" have an incandescent hatred for lawful citizen gun owners and will do ANYTHING within their power to harm us when the opportunity presents itself.The felony-trap of changing planes in NY has nearly gotten some high-profile competitive shooters recently. Lots of international flights go in and out of JFK, and these are folks traveling with lots of paperwork/licensing/permitting from other countries to allow them to bring their IPSC handgun(s) (for instance) into other countries. Ordinarily, these people check their guns with the airline in, say, Atlanta or Milwaukee or wherever, and then the gun gets transferred as baggage without the passenger ever having (or being allowed) to touch the locked gun case. But if, on return to the states, their domestic connection has been cancelled or delayed, the airline will try to force them to claim all their checked baggage - including the pistol(s). And the local law enforcement will immediately arrest them.
Ben Stoeger had a big discussion about this with Hwansik Kim (who nearly got tangled up in this) on one of his youtube-channel shows recently. It's a big deal, with the potential to seriously impact the lives of individuals who are trying their very, very best to be compliant.
You seem to be overlooking the people LAWFULLY traveling THROUGH NYC airports with guns, who for various reasons were delayed, and prosecuted for "illegally" having firearms in their possession. Apparently if your connecting flight is delayed or canceled, you're supposed to dump your guns in the Hudson.
Yes, I have missed flights and had to spend the night in a hotel. I did not claim my luggage, in fact they wouldn't give it to me, and it was subsequently misplaced for several days. I didn't have any firearms with me, thankfully, but I think an airline would be less likely to misplace one.Speedo, there are a lot of shooting sports beyond that, and lots of people have to fly through New York to shoot somewhere other than New York. That provision isn't helpful to them.
Have you ever had a connecting flight cancelled and have to spend the night at an airport hotel?
No one is standing around Kennedy grinning and rubbing their hands together gleefully waiting for someone to enter with a gun.
And as previously stated, nobody was told this nor were they given an alternative.As previously stated, no through passenger should ever have handguns in their possession, delayed flight or not.
This is demonstrably untrue.I think people are getting a little paranoid here, no one is out to get you, but if you break the law and are caught, you will be subject to an arrest process. No one is standing around Kennedy grinning and rubbing their hands together gleefully waiting for someone to enter with a gun as certain people would suggest.
Of course it does; it has the ability to enrich the city with fines, lawyers with fees; it has the ability to instill more anti-gun fear into the people; and it is very good at all of that.And as previously stated, nobody was told this nor were they given an alternative.
None of this has ANY purpose beyond harassment and infantile cruelty.
Yes, I certainly agree that the laws regarding firearms in NY have been ridiculous, more so now with the Safe Act. However, if you're suggesting law enforcement officers are unreasonable if they enforce existing law, I would have to disagree. Take that up with the idiots in Albany who create and pass these laws, and the Governor who pushes for them and signs them.To "enter" with a gun? No. To try to leave with one? It seems that they are based on several recent stories.
Nobody is arguing with you that, given the absurd laws and unreasonable attitude of law enforcement there, one must do everything to avoid coming into possession of your own gun while you are at JFK. Nobody disagrees with you. The discussion is whether that's an outrageous situation, and exemplary of NY and NYC's naked disregard for individual rights. That's all.
Of course the delicious irony is that if a cop FALSELY arrests you for something that's NOT a crime, his defense will INEVITABLY be, "There are too many laws for a cop to know!"Are you familiar with the notion that it is actually very common for normal "law abiding" people to violate lots of laws on a routine basis with absolutely no knowledge? There was a book that made the case that the average American commits about 6 felonies per day. For instance, if you call in sick when you're not and you work for a entity with offices/holdings in more than one state, there's a case to be made that you've committed wire fraud.
It's all well and good to say "cops have to enforce the law," but the truth is that, but for prosecutorial discretion and reasonableness on the part of LEO's, we'd all end up behind bars PDQ.
Can't do THAT. That wouldn't harm a NON-criminal TRYING to comply with the law.How about walking the passenger back to the airline check-in desk and telling the passenger they need to go ahead and re-check their locked gun case if they don't want to get arrested? I don't think this is really a hard situation for the cop.