NYSRPA - Tom King - JUMBO KING's Little White Lies

[rosehenry]

JUMBO KING's Little White Lies

After re-reading the "President's Message" in the March 2007 edition of NYSRPA's The Bullet, I had a good laugh regarding the illusion of Mr. King's high principles. His statements of grandeur regarding how others should act brought back some thoughts.

Some of Mr. King's Kum-Ba-Yah wisdom for others was:

"I do care when you call me a bastard. That takes the argument to a personal level where it should not be."

"...rather than attempt to prove me wrong you chose to attack me and call me names."

"Rather than do something to bring sense to the situation, people chose to attack me for taking a stand. They continued the attack after the listing was removed. Removed because I thought the point was made not because of the many attacks."

"I may be many things but I'm not a bastard and you owe me an apology."

Mr. King creates a grand public front yet allows others to run unleashed, doing some of the dirty work he supposedly hates in others.

Cases in point...
Jacob J. Rieper, Legislative Director, made the following statements:
"NYSCC continues to lie and promote Schumer & Spitzer to the gun owners and sportsmen in this state as their best friends. If you want to believe Palmer's lies, go right ahead. We're not about to compromise principle to satisfy people like you. If you don't like it, call Brenda and cancel your membership."

and

"What they have done for the last 5 years is recycle our legislative reports and alerts to SCOPE members as their own work. They bring nothing to the table."

This forum, and others like it, have record of these statements yet is appears that Mr. King need not apologize to anyone for his actions nor the actions of his henchmen. I feel this irony speaks of Mr. King's true purpose and principles: it is acceptable to disparage the name of others and to misrepresent their intentions. Apparently your wisdom above is rather self-righteous: the rules do not apply to the KING.

You are no Moses uniting the masses in New York.

Sincerely,

Rose

 

[Justin]

What's the context of this post?

 

[TonyB]

Mr. King just started a Gun Talk blog in our local paper recently(the Times Union)..I don't know him personally,but A good friend is in The NY rifle and Pistol assoc. w/ him and says he's a good man..good enough for me.
I'm not sure what this post is pertainning too either,but seeing as Rosehenry has 2 posts,it may a troll issue.
I know Mr. King has taken heat fro people around here(the Albany NY area),but I believe he's doing good work for gun rights....

 

[USMC6177]

I'm confused as heck but if this Mr. King was having his people say that Gov. Spitzer and Chuckie Schumer are bad for gunowners I would have to agree with them. Heck, old Spitzy put an anti hunter in charge of the DEC. Thanks for the post Rosenhenry I think I may want to put some support into this Mr. King's organization.

 

[Car Knocker]

Is there a purpose to this thread other than to highlight the OP's apparent dislike of Mr. King?

 

[rosehenry]

Note from NYSCC:

> > Mr. Tom King,
> >
> > I am wondering why you did not return my call as you said you would,
> > so that we could continue our conversation. I thought that you would
> > call back to clarify some of your statements.
> >
> > I learned a lot about you from our conversation. When someone says
> > they are tired and will call me back on Monday, I expect them to
> > keep their word. After three Mondays and no return call from you, I
> > feel that you have no intention of returning a call. Therefore, I
> > have to believe that you have no plans to change what you have stated.
> >
> > You stated that the reason you have been calling the NYSCC an
> > anti-gun organization is because you claim our past president took
> > Senator Schumer around the state to sportsmen?s clubs claiming that
> > Senator Schumer was a friend of sportsmen. I asked you for your
> > information about this, as to where and when this happened. You said
> > that you do not have to prove anything. When you are the president
> > of an organization like the NYSRPA and make damaging statements
> > about another organization, you should have the facts first.
> >
> > FACT: In 2004, members of the NYSCC were asked by sponsors of ?Open
> > Fields? legislation to get one of our senators to sign on to this
> > legislation so that New York State would be included in the funding
> > for this program. In 2004, some of our members, along with members
> > of other state organizations, including the Farm Bureau, met Senator
> > Schumer at several farms across the State to get support from
> > Senator Schumer for this national legislation called ?Open Fields,?
> > which would give farmers money to open their lands for hunting,
> > fishing, trapping and other outdoor activities. None of our members
> > ?took Schumer around the state?. Senator Schumer did sign on to this
> > legislation. Have you or your organization ever met with or asked an
> > ANTI-GUN legislator to support any legislation? I hope that you
> > have, or you are not representing your members to get legislation
> > passed or defeated. Does this make you ANTI-GUN?
> >
> > You stated that our Legislative Vice President Mr. John?s interview
> > with Mr. Spitzer was anti-gun. I asked you what your reason is for
> > saying it is anti-gun; you stated because he did not hammer Spitzer
> > about his anti-gun issues.
> >
> > FACT: The NYSCC requested from each candidate for governor an
> > interview about their background with hunting, fishing and environmental issues.
> > Mr. Spitzer replied and an interview was set up. Even though the
> > interview was set up to talk about Spitzer?s background in hunting,
> > fishing and the environment, Mr. John did ask a few questions about
> > guns. No one from the NYSCC has endorsed Mr. Spitzer. Are you able
> > to do an interview with Mr. Spitzer about his gun issues?
> >
> > When you stated that yo u started CANY to put the NYSCC out of
> > business, I realized that the only reason you are attacking the
> > NYSCC through the NYSRPA is because you did not succeed in shutting
> > the NYSCC down. All but one of CANY?s members that I have talked to
> > joined CANY to increase the power of sportsmen in this state, not to
> > fight against the NYSCC and destroy what volunteers have built over
> > the past 73 years. That one was you, Mr. King.
> >
> > Fact: The New York State Conservation Council is run by volunteers
> > who donate their time and money. We have only two paid staff that
> > work in the office full time. The officers do not receive any
> > payment or reimbursement for their expenses. Neither the Council or
> > the officers have ever received money from Senator Schumer.
> >
> > How is the NYSPRA run? Is it a dictatorship, or did the members of
> > your organization vote to spread lies and try to shut down the
> > state?s largest and oldest pro-hunting, fishing, trapping,
> > environment and gun organization?
> >
> > When I was voted in as president of the NYSCC, my goal was to try to
> > unite everyone who cares about our environment, fish and wildlife,
> > our rights to hunt, fish and bear arms. I figured on dealing with
> > anti- groups like PETA, not anti-sportsmen on the board of a pro-gun
> > organization that I use d to call ?great? and that many NYSCC
> > members belong to.
> >
> > When you list the NYSCC as an anti-gun organization, you are also
> > calling many of your own members anti-gun. Then you have _ _ _ _ _
> > enough to ask them to vote for you for the Board of Directors of the
> > NRA. Are you going to use that position, if you are elected, to
> > attack sportsmen and other pro-gun organizations?
> >
> > By the way, the NYSCC is an NRA member. I am an NRA member.
> >
> > Yours in Conservation,
> >
> > Harold Palmer
> > President
> > New York State Conservation Council Inc.
> >
> >
> >
>

 

[BobMcG]

Is there a purpose to this thread other than to highlight the OP's apparent dislike of Mr. King?

Darned if I can find one. The posts so far have all the qualities of someone trolling just to stir things up.

 

[Legionnaire]

What? IBTL.

 

[Robert Hairless]

Let me leap to the original poster's defense by suggesting that he is not a troll, only an inward dwelling zealot who is making his best efforts to communicate his strong feelings about matters that trouble him.

 

[Justin]

They can feel free to communicate their strong feelings so long as they address the topic in a way that someone who is not already a party to the disagreement has some inkling of understanding.

The thread starter should also understand that there's something of an obligation to answer the questions of those in the thread.