Obama Calls for Permanent Assault Weapons Ban

[mike101]

"Nearly three dozen Chicago students have been killed this year,"

And I'll bet not one of them was killed with an "assault weapon". I don't understand why they insist on blaming so called assault weapons. Nobody uses them. They insist on ignoring the fact that these guns are used in less than 1.4% of "gun crime". That's another BS term thay like to use.

 

[the pistolero]

"There's a reason they go out and shoot each other, because they don't love themselves. And the reason they don't love themselves is because we are not loving them enough."

I'd argue the reason they go out and shoot each other is that somewhere along the way, someone dropped the ball on them and didn't teach them that killing people is, um, wrong...
I've said it elsewhere, and I'll say it here -- Barack Obama is living proof that everything that glitters is indeed not gold...

 

[target1911]

Correct me if I am wrong here, but wasnt the LA bank robbery, with full auto AK's, during the last AWB?

I believe they should ban car bombs in Irac so our Soldiers wont get blown up anymore <<<<sarcazim

Didnt they Ban 'illegal drugs' a few years back? Now that was/is true succes. I am soooooo glad to know that the BGs wont be high on crack when they rob the next Bank with an AW.

It also makes me feel safe to know that those dangerous little Ruger 10-22's will be off the streets and out of the hands of ALL the Law Abiding Citizens.

AWBs are a JOKE

 

[Taxpayer]

"Nearly three dozen Chicago students have been killed this year,"

So, why didn't the police protect them I wonder?

What they really need is a gun free zone like this:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=bGqiULYbt5Y

 

[Mannix]

"There's a reason they go out and shoot each other, because they don't love themselves. And the reason they don't love themselves is because we are not loving them enough."

Yeah, like going out and giving the local dealer a hug is going to change his ways . Gimme a break, what kinda stuff is he smoking?

 

[lance22]

He turned to a gun because he had a hole in his heart. And he had a hole in his heart because we did not love him enough [wiping a tear from my eye].

So Obama made a speech telling us that guns don't make anyone safer [as he glances to the side to make sure his body guards still have their MP5's and the snipers on the roofs are still watching the crowd close enough] and all we need to succeed is hard work [as he recalls his recent stock-spit which he inherited from his father].

 

[Master Blaster]

Obama's not dumb he understands his constituency very well. He knows how to appeal to folks who have the OTHER Syndrome.

People who live in these high crime areas, have failed in raising their children, and in protecting their own lives and the lives of their neighbors. The reason they have failed is that they don't take proper responsibility for their actions. That includes teaching values to their children, making sure they get an education, discouraging instant gratification, and reporting their neighbors who are comitting the murders. So they want an easy answer, and the easy answer is to blame the OTHER.

This is called the OTHER syndrome.

The OTHER is anything living or inanimate that provides them with an excuse for their own failure, and the failure of their culture and values. In this case its easily availible Guns or assault weapons, or the fact that their ancestors were opressed in some way.

Obama panders to their weakness, and assures them that their failure is not their responsibility, that crime being commited by their children is not their fault or responsibility, and the easy answer is to elect him and then he will take care of the OTHER for them and all of their problems will be solved.

Many liberals also have the OTHER syndrome as well.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I will repeat myself.
A Chicago Tribune op-ed at the time of the passage of the
original assault weapon ban pointed out that in the three
years before the AWB 1994 there had been 2,400 murders
in Chicago and three involved "assault weapons." 1 of 800.
I seriously doubt that the porportion has changed.

The term "assault weapon" basically means a civilian-legal
replica of what the military would call an "assault rifle."
Kinda like banning a CJ5 because a Hummer is an "assault
vehicle" and such things have no place on our streets.
Felonizing people by redefining what was once legal to
now illegal will not repair the damage to society caused
by other "do-good" legislation that has destroyed the
black family in inner-city America.

 

[FortyCalGlock]

Carl
I bet more people were killed with baseball bats than the 3 "assault weapons" during that time frame. But last time I checked you can walk into any Dick's or Sports Authority and buy one without a background check. Bats should be serial numbered and leave a distinctive impression identifying the individual bat used in the crime. On top of that, a background check and proof that you belong to a baseball team and that you will use it for "sporting purposes only". What do ya think?

 

[Deanimator]

My answer is the same as always:

"No, I refuse. Now what?"

Seems to confound all of the anti-gunners to whom I say it...

 

[keeleon]

Obama Calls for Permanent Assault Weapons Ban to Combat Inner-City Violence
Sunday , July 15, 2007

Associated Press

Chicago

Standing before a church congregation that has witnessed inner-city violence firsthand, Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Sunday that more must be done to end a social ill that is "sickening the soul of this nation."

Obama told churchgoers at the Vernon Park Church of God on Chicago's South Side that too many young lives are being claimed by violence and more must be done to combat the problem.

"From South Central L.A. to Newark, New Jersey, there's an epidemic of violence that's sickening the soul of this nation," the Illinois senator told the crowd. "The violence is unacceptable and it's got to stop."

Nearly three dozen Chicago students have been killed this year, according to Chicago Public Schools. Obama said that figure is higher than the number of Illinois serviceman who've died in Iraq in 2007.

"We need to express our collective anger through collective action," Obama said.

He said the government needs to permanently make it illegal to kill each other in senseless gang violence, and make it illegal to have an illegally purchased firearm (you know, like the ones that Deroy down the block sells out his van?).

He also said government should support and fund more after-school programs to keep kids off the streets. But some of the burden must also be shouldered by taxpayers who do a good job of raising their children to not grow up and be criminals, he added.

"We have an entire generation of young men in our society who have become products of violence, and we are going to have to break the cycle," Obama said. "There are too many young men out there who have gone down the wrong path."

He later added, "There's a reason they go out and shoot each other, because they don't love themselves. And the reason they don't love themselves is because we are not loving them enough, not because guns are legal to own.

Fixed! Now I'll vote for him.

 

[Caimlas]

I have a friend who has said to me, "Hillary Clinton is the most beautiful woman in the world because she is smart." Now, I'm sure you disagree with that as violently as I do, but hear me out here. This friend is an intelligent person, but he's very dogmatic. Not so dogmatic that he won't examine issues - I've gotten him to see the self defense aspects of firearms, for instance - but as a whole, he's pro-socialized health care and social program, against military use (pacifist), pro-legalized illicit drugs, and anti-gun. (Still, he's one of the only people I enjoy talking with about politics, because he's a good debater, intelligent, and very knowledgeable). The main difference between him and me is that he believes people are fundamentally good, and I think people are fundamentally bad (in short).

Yet, despite this, he's starting to think that Obama is a horrible, horrible choice (and Hillary, too). In the case of Obama, it's partially because he's a Chicago politician (ie as corrupt as can be) with little experience. I didn't get the details as I've not had a lot of time and just conversed with him briefly, but he's not looking too favorably on any of the 'leading' Democrats right now.

 

[Hank Zudd]

my 2 cents

Carl Brown, never let facts get in the way of an emotional argument with a liberal-nanny-state-we-know-what's-good-for-you bloodsucking politican.
AND JUST WHY is it that libs can talk up issues in church, but when the right does it SEPERATION OF CHURCH & State must be enacted? Will it never stop.

 

[Desperado]

Obama needs to get a life. Hes one of those "Lets all hold hands and get along" politicians. Maybe he should go ahead and ban cars so he can cut down on all the drunk driving fatalities as well.

 

[DomMega]

Yes, what a magnificent idea Obama! I'm sure all those pesky gang bangers obtain their assault weapons through legal means in their particular states. I'm sure they all have had extensive background checks and have absolutely no criminal record to speak of. Therefor, taking those assault weapons away from the people who can attain them LEGALLY makes absolute perfect sense.

I can't understand how grown men who are supposedly intelligent enough to manage foreign affairs and political agendas can be so stupid when it comes to simple common sense. Although, most of our elected officials are complete dolts so this comes as no surprise.

 

[Sonora Rebel]

Obama is a 'manufactured' politico. He runs his mouth and says nothing, but looks good while saying it with a smooth delivery. He appeals to the vacuuous inner city 'gimme' masses who still can't figure out how to get off the plantation they never worked on. He appeals to 'emotion' while enforcing ignorance upon the various 'useful idiots'. He will NEVER be President.

 

[brlau]

I hope you're right (that he'll never be President). Same goes for Clinton too, but if the rest of the country can vote for Clinton I twice...

Local media here seems to love him just because he lived here briefly. They seem to love to grasp at any celebrity's association with Hawaii. But when it comes to someone like Brig. Gen. Robin Olds who passed away recently (and was actually born here) - nothing. But that's for another thread...

I remember adding my thanks in a thread here from us in the Blue states to those in the Red states for keeping "Lurch" out of the Oval Office. Will we be able to do that again - and breathe a sigh of relief as another progressive is kept from leading our republic?

 

[DonP]

At least the guy is consistent.

He promoted the AWB when he was in the Illinois legislature.

His extended honeymoon with the media and public seems to be slowly grinding to a halt. Now he is actually finally starting to take some positions. For the past year not one news person has pushed him for any details on what he would do as president.

Now he's starting to put actual ideas out, and with every position he takes he's going to alienate some folks and delight others in his party.

He also came out with a position for merit pay for teachers and PO'd the teachers unions.

Of course none of the reporters will do any of the background work to confirm that the Chicago students killed were, in large part, gang members engaged in illegal activites or innocent collateral damage to the turf wars by gang shooters.

Nor will they point out that when the parents and neighbors of the dead and wounded are questioned by the police as to who was doing the shooting the "no snitching" rule comes into play and "nobody saw nothing."

IMHO the shiny idealistic bubble of BO as President is going to burst in the next few months and he'll take the position he originally was designated for, Hillary's running mate, so all the guilt ridden liberals can vote for a woman and a minority and assure 16 years of liberal Democrat rule. (At least that's the plan)

 

[obxned]

"We have an entire generation of young men in our society who have become products of violence, and we are going to have to break the cycle"

Hey Obama - tell them to quit the crack, get an education, get jobs, quit the kids giving birth to kids thing, stay out of trouble with the law, and quit blaming everyone and everything for their own mess.

 

[Nolo]

The fundamental problem here is that many people lack a feeling of responsibility. This breeds more discontent than you could imagine. Suddenly, they feel no responsibility for the rights of others, no responsibility to vote or to actually take action on issues that they care about. They start feeling no responsibility to obey the law, to educate their children and their friend's children. They feel no responsibility to be a role model, or to behave as an upstanding citizen should. Suddenly, you are born a criminal or a breeder of criminals. We need to take action, people! Instead of sitting here talking about it amongst ourselves and whining about the ills and how terrible these people are (which is fine, we have the First Amendment for that), we should get out there, go into the ghettos and poor areas where these people are and educate them! Don't let your only lasting influence be your children, influence the sons and daughters of these poor bastards too! These children, the young ones, at least, can still be saved from amorality. Teach them not your opinions or politics, teach them your values, your sense of responsibility. If you can't find a decent political scene, make one! Influence these children, so that they may avoid the fate of the criminals and druggies. Once we make a difference, it will begin to show, and when it begins to show, we can then debate intelligently, have good candidates to choose from, and create good leadership in this country.
We have become lazy in this country. But we can fix it!

 

[illspirit]

The real irony is, if you goto almost any Democratic blog these days, you're almost guaranteed to find at least one tinfoil hat thread about how Dubya is on the verge of declaring martial law and will refuse to leave office in January '09. Yet despite all their shrieking about how they'll need to start a "revolution" to get rid of the "evil rethuglicans," they want to elect someone who will disarm them so they will be sitting ducks if tyranny happens for real.

 

[feedthehogs]

end a social ill that is "sickening the soul of this nation

A breakdown in morality Mr. Obama which guns have nothing to do with.
But we preach to the choir here.

I wonder what they will all say when the guns go away and people are still killing people.

 

[crashm1]

Obama is a 'manufactured' politico. He runs his mouth and says nothing, but looks good while saying it with a smooth delivery. He appeals to the vacuuous inner city 'gimme' masses who still can't figure out how to get off the plantation they never worked on. He appeals to 'emotion' while enforcing ignorance upon the various 'useful idiots'.

Hey that sounds a lot like our current president except for the inner city masses and smooth delivery parts.

 

[macadore]

Don't laugh...... This Saturday there is a "gun buy-back" program in Chicago. You bring in ANY gun, and you receive a $100 gift card for something -or-another. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. (Yeah right, we know they really stand by that!).

I wish they would do that where I live. I have some frearms that aren't worth $100. I could dump some junk.

 

[kbheiner7]

The more I hear from this nut, the more I dislike him.