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Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun and Ammo Registration

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by baz, Jan 9, 2013.

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  1. baz

    baz Member

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    So it is being reported:
    Gotta look into this. Seems to me it was intended to prevent using healthcare providers to accumulate such information. Could it really be so broad as to to prevent any Fed .gov registration database?
     
  2. DeepSouth

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    I am literally laughing.
    I guess they had to pass it to find out what was in it.
    I really hope this is true, just for the irony.



    My favorite part of the article.



     
  3. mberoose

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    Well, now, that's a pill I can swallow!

    ba-dum tshhhh
     
  4. gym

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    Good to see thay read that one as carefully as the healthcare, that none of them read.This is funny in a way, you could slip anything in there and they will sign it just to get an early lunch.
    So what do they do now, un sign it?
     
  5. TACOJOE

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    ROFL:neener: that is just too funny. Now if only politicians actually followed the rules they made we might be in the clear on this particular issue.
     
  6. anchorman

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    Of course they knew this was in it. I knew this was in it, and I only paid attention to this all in passing after they scrapped the public option (or medicare for all) in favor of allowing greedy insurance companies to profiteer at the public trough. It was all over the news at the time. Not all of the people in government are as dumb as you think, even though we may disagree with their actions and intentions at times (or often as the case may be).
     
  7. greenmtnguy

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    I will have to read it to believe it, myself - I *do* know that there was a clause added that forbids DOCTORS from asking/inquiring about your (patients) ownership of firearms or collecting/using that information for medical purposes.

    I am unaware that it says that the GOVERNMENT cannot collect this information.

    If someone has already found it in that pile of "legislation" please point us to it - it can be tough sledding through that stuff.
     
  8. Solo

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    I have never been prouder in my support of Obamacare.
     
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    As someone who actively fought against socialized medicine (multiple exhausting trips to DC and back) I chuckled when I first read this. Someone knew what they were doing. Whether the effort will amount to a hill of beans worth of difference is another question entirely.
     
  10. JellyJar

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    Not too fast. According to this provision it says:

    2717,c,2

    (my underline)

    This only applies to the Secretary of the Treasury, not the Attorney General or the Department of Justice IHMO.

    If you think I am wrong please sound off!
     
  11. -v-

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    I agree with JellyJar. How it is worded, it says that
    See Page 2037-2038
     
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    But if healthcare personnel can't collect such information, we must ask ourselves why not? And when they tell us why not, we'll be able to leverage that reasoning to show why no other agency needs or ought to have that information either.
     
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    Full text (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r111:1:./temp/~r111dLBy1n:e0:)

     
  14. anchorman

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    IIRC, the reason they wanted to collect that information (whether guns were in the house), was so that if a person was giving signs of being suicidal, doctors could ask the patient if they had any guns and recommend that they be taken away for the patient's safety. Seems reasonable, so long as there was recourse to get them back, and they weren't going to be taken and melted down. But given that some people were paranoid about doctors becoming government agents under a socialized health system (that never was going to happen anyway - too many private parties getting rich on that gravy train), republicans decided that NO info could be collected for this purpose, as the info might be used to form some kind of registry. Maybe a case of republican legislators worrying for nothing and actually interfering in the patient's well being.
     
  15. Sergei Mosin

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    This came about because the AMA and other related groups have long-standing anti-gun policies and were attempting to cast gun ownership as a public health problem. Remember all the outraged threads about medical history questionnaires asking about gun ownership? This provision puts a stop to that practice.
     
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