Odd info found.. a rapper's take on handguns
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12-34hom
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El Tejon, Bwahahahahah.... now that's gaheldastonik....
RAP = Retards Attempting Poetry = my 50 cents worth....
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RAP = Retards Attempting Poetry = my 50 cents worth....
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SavannahSteve
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When it comes time to use a gun to defend life and property, the last thing most of us ordinary souls will be thinking about is taking off the safety. I think the absence of any external safety is the best point of old revolvers, Glocks and Kel-Tecs, and I groan every thing I see a new key-lock revolver. The only time the safety is on my semi-autos is on when they are in the house.
Aikibiker
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I think the all bark and no bite comment has more to do with the satin nickel finish and ivory grips. Unless you are going to a BBQ or it is your only pistol there is no reason to carry a gun like that unless you are trying to show off. Only fools and wannabes try to show off with a gun in "da hood" so Mr. Cent was just speaking from his own experience. Anyone with a piece like that would do no more then wave it about and make empty threats.
As for the safety comment very few gangbangers carry in a holster. Mexican carry is the rule of the day. Have you ever tried to acquire a decent grip on a pistol and draw from your waistband? I would imagine it is very hard to get the good hold required to remove the safety as part of the drawstroke. especially with the effects of adrenaline. This is why everyone says you need a good secure holster for your piece. Not to keep it from falling out of your pants. (Although that is also a valid reason to carry using a proper holster.)
My 2 bits on the matter.
ny32182
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I concur.
Say what you will about Mr. Cent, but the fact is that he has a whole lot more gunfighting experience than the vast majority of us ever will. If you get past the G-funk lingo, his comments do reflect much more knowledge and understanding of the subject than most people will ever have.
Joe Demko
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Don't know who the rapper in question is, but a couple of you have expressed the idea that he is a bad guy and therefore knows nothing about guns. That kind of thinking will get you killed. The members of boards like this one like to characterize the bad guys as retarded hip-hop goblins with no real knowledge of firearms whatsoever. Sometimes that's true, sometimes it isn't. In the blighted mill town where I teach, the favored handguns for the criminal element are Glocks (not the Lorcins that gunnies fondly stereotype). The weapon of choice, though, isn't a handgun of any kind. It is a 12 gauge shotgun. "You can't miss with a gauge!" is a common bit of street wisdom. Sometimes the gauge is cut down, sometimes it isn't, factory-stock Mossberg Cruisers are pretty common. Whoever said that the people in this forum have less actual gunfight experience than a lot of the "bad guys" got it right.
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I think this is one of the funnier threads I've read all year.
He seemed fairly knowledgeable and had sensible (if not universally agreed on) opinions of firearms to me. Agree he's just another thug rapper though. Just to be fair, and show that this middle aged whitebread Parole Officer from the sticks is giving 50 cents his props 
Elmer Keith may have been our choice for interesting dinner conversation or reloading data but not the guy to be educating this fella on what happens in real gunfights... If I recall correctly Elmer never fired a shot in anger and advised a young Jeff Cooper to ditch the 1911 and carry a SAA in wartime...
Elmer Keith may have been our choice for interesting dinner conversation or reloading data but not the guy to be educating this fella on what happens in real gunfights... If I recall correctly Elmer never fired a shot in anger and advised a young Jeff Cooper to ditch the 1911 and carry a SAA in wartime...
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Should I then link this thread to general discussions about revolver vs. semi-auto, or 9mm vs. .45 ACP? Do you think his "insight" into the matter would illuminate anyone here further o the subject? Don't you find it strange he likes the 9mm, even though he was shot 9x with one -- including once through the cheek -- and he's still alive? That the .45 is all show and no go? C'mon Curtis, stick to cris, ice, rims, Timbs, and shorties.
BerettaNut92
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Unh. Unh. C'mmon iss yur burffday....
The_Shootist
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50 Cent vs Cooper, Keith etc
I have a sneaking suspicion that if eith of Messers Cooper, Keith went up against 50 in a good old school type street fight it might be closer than ya think.
Now, put 50 up against a stone-cold killer like Col Charles Askins - hehehe, I'd pay money to see that
I have a sneaking suspicion that if eith of Messers Cooper, Keith went up against 50 in a good old school type street fight it might be closer than ya think.
Now, put 50 up against a stone-cold killer like Col Charles Askins - hehehe, I'd pay money to see that
9 m&m
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ok sure pal
9 m&m
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no, no, no, its more like go go go go, shortey iss yur burffday..........
surfinUSA
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I don't listen to his music, but him and many of his associates have been in more shootings than many of us including LEOs even dream about.
Although written in a different manner than we are used to, his observations are not that far off base.
As far as the 45 goes, "all bark and no bite", he may be referring to appearance of the gun or many of the untrained individuals he knows lack of ability to hit with it. A sentiment that was very common among the WWII and Korean war vets like my Dad and his friends who thought the world of the M1 Garand but never had a good word to say about the 45, which kicked like a mule and they could't hit the broad side of the barn with (all had very little training with the 45 and its little sights didn't help.)
Most gun owners of self defense type guns have little training, don't frequent these boards, or read gun rags. They don't belong to the NRA and don't really give a damn about gun control as long as nobody is knocking on their door to take their gun away. Whether good guys or bad guys they are the majority of civilians involved in gunfights. These fights are at bad breath to across the street ranges.
Depending on the neighborhood, they occur over something as minor as a hard look or a bad word or as desperate as defending their family from a home invasion robbery. Sometimes they get lucky and sometimes we read about their obituary. And many of the guns they use are cheap easy to afford off brand guns that you or I would never consider carrying.
Although this man's and the gangster culture may be as alien to mine as the man in the moon's, I would not be to too quick to discredit his observations.
Although written in a different manner than we are used to, his observations are not that far off base.
As far as the 45 goes, "all bark and no bite", he may be referring to appearance of the gun or many of the untrained individuals he knows lack of ability to hit with it. A sentiment that was very common among the WWII and Korean war vets like my Dad and his friends who thought the world of the M1 Garand but never had a good word to say about the 45, which kicked like a mule and they could't hit the broad side of the barn with (all had very little training with the 45 and its little sights didn't help.)
Most gun owners of self defense type guns have little training, don't frequent these boards, or read gun rags. They don't belong to the NRA and don't really give a damn about gun control as long as nobody is knocking on their door to take their gun away. Whether good guys or bad guys they are the majority of civilians involved in gunfights. These fights are at bad breath to across the street ranges.
Depending on the neighborhood, they occur over something as minor as a hard look or a bad word or as desperate as defending their family from a home invasion robbery. Sometimes they get lucky and sometimes we read about their obituary. And many of the guns they use are cheap easy to afford off brand guns that you or I would never consider carrying.
Although this man's and the gangster culture may be as alien to mine as the man in the moon's, I would not be to too quick to discredit his observations.
BerettaNut92
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greyhound
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I agree with Golgo-13's take on this.
Though it may be comforting to think of the gang bangas as idiots when it comes to weaponry, the fact of the matter is that illegal or not, low lifes depend on thier firearm as much as any LEO, soldier, or CCW holder.
Sure most are clowns who get their "training" from the movies, but I'd bet there are some out there who have done the research and practice.
Though it may be comforting to think of the gang bangas as idiots when it comes to weaponry, the fact of the matter is that illegal or not, low lifes depend on thier firearm as much as any LEO, soldier, or CCW holder.
Sure most are clowns who get their "training" from the movies, but I'd bet there are some out there who have done the research and practice.
I'm 19 years old. i usually don't listen to rap, but ALL of my friends do, im weird. I've listened to his whole cd, and it actually isnt that bad. I mean, in some of his songs he makes references to M-1 rifles, AR-15's (not M-16's, he actually knows the REAL name), AK-47's, .45's, .38 Specials, brass catchers(!!!) and laser sights(imp beams).
I would not be so quick to judge, based on your own musical preferences, because at the very least, it seems like he knows more than to hold it sideways and call it a gat.
And he is not whining about how guns are bad either, if he grew up in that crappy of a place, maybe he could honestly need them to protect himself, you know, SORT OF LIKE US!!!
i dont see anyone saying anything about that stupid new rock song that says something like "staring down the barrel of a .45"
That seems like a whiny anti-gun song to me more than anything.
I would not be so quick to judge, based on your own musical preferences, because at the very least, it seems like he knows more than to hold it sideways and call it a gat.
And he is not whining about how guns are bad either, if he grew up in that crappy of a place, maybe he could honestly need them to protect himself, you know, SORT OF LIKE US!!!
i dont see anyone saying anything about that stupid new rock song that says something like "staring down the barrel of a .45"
That seems like a whiny anti-gun song to me more than anything.
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He seems smarter than some guys working at gun stores I've met.
Reasonable statement. .25 ACP is not exactly the Hammer of Thor.
AMT does suck. And he's right about small guns being harder to hit with and having nastier recoil.
"All bark no bite" probably talks about the pretty looks of the gun, not the bullet. It is easier to shoot a full-sized gun well for most people. And it is goot not to shoot yourself .
Nothing real controversial here. A P-11 holds alot of rounds for its little size.
Lots of folks are anti-manual-safety, though it's a debatable point of view. Revolvers ARE generally reliable guns.
You get the idea. I've heard MUCH dumber stuff from people working at even pretty good gun stores.
Reasonable statement. .25 ACP is not exactly the Hammer of Thor.
AMT does suck. And he's right about small guns being harder to hit with and having nastier recoil.
"All bark no bite" probably talks about the pretty looks of the gun, not the bullet. It is easier to shoot a full-sized gun well for most people. And it is goot not to shoot yourself .
Nothing real controversial here. A P-11 holds alot of rounds for its little size.
Lots of folks are anti-manual-safety, though it's a debatable point of view. Revolvers ARE generally reliable guns.
You get the idea. I've heard MUCH dumber stuff from people working at even pretty good gun stores.
The_Shootist
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50's Take On CCW
You're more likley to catch me listening to 50 Cent than The Dixie Chicks!!!
You're more likley to catch me listening to 50 Cent than The Dixie Chicks!!!
BerettaNut92
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And he actually has his finger off the trigger in one of those photos.
Yeah, cool, someone else who doesnt mind a rapper talking about guns. Unfortunately, if a heavy metal band talked about guns like this, they would be a Right wing white supremacist band. Does anyone else see this? No one gets nutty about him talking about guns, but if a band like pantera or slayer made songs like this, they would be blacklisted and everyone would think they were the root of all evil. But for some reason, the media doesnt think its that weird that 50 comes out and talks about guns, hell, they wrote an article about his!!
Does anyone else feel this way, or am i just weird?
Does anyone else feel this way, or am i just weird?
BryanP
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Hey 25/20, I'm curious about something. I've heard the song you refer to with the lyric "staring down the barrel of a .45" and hadn't noticed anything particularly anti about it. I just looked up the lyrics and I'll agree that it's whiny-angsty teenage tripe I don't see anything anti in the lyrics. So where are you getting that message from it?
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