offered a stolen gun

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I did not notice before posting that the fellow in question lives in the P.O.C. in witch case you need better freinds. Why don't you call the police BEFORE you take action and see what they suggest, In fact if you don't you aren't much better than the lowlife pushing the firearm.:cuss:
 
Let's see...We have a speed freak, trying to sell a gun, that was almost surely stolen...He's probably tried to sell it to multiple people....So, call the cops, tell them where to find the guy, let them set up a "sting" where he has to bring them the gun...I don't see any way this could be traced back to you...You're acting as a CI, and the cops will keep your name outa it...Common sense prevails...
 
(little paranoid voice)

do any of your "friends" hang out at an Internet Cafe? Just imagine there might be a few around, and the good folk of Berkeley, being good libs, would not mind that a bit. Don't suppose your screen name gives a tip off to your rea name, but that is not necessary--you've already identified your business and business practices, plus your location.

Chances of any of them latching on to this thread are slim, but, my tinfoil hat's itching me right now :rolleyes:
 
Three choices - drop a dime, turn your back, or trade something for the rifle. Maybe you could offer to keep the guy employed for a certain amount of time in exchange for the rifle?
 
I would find a way to borrow it somehow for some random hunting purpose, dissassemle it, remove the firing pin, and give it back to him saying "It's defective".

-James
 
What M-Rex said--

M-Rex...great advice. Follow it. Just do the right thing. Think of it this way, you may save several lives by turning it in. And NOBODY will know it was you who did so.

Doc2005
 
Wait a minute. You are running your own business and you can't afford $100.00? This little story smells of fish
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i am hanging on by a thread, it isnt that big of a business, i have had some problems - honestly i will probably have my internet shut down as of monday oct 24.
my biz consists of me, a truck, and a newspaper ad.
i dont have regular work lined up, i take it as it comes, most of my jobs take about 2 hrs.
some weeks i get lots of work, some i get none. i should be doing better, but ive been robbed twice, had many truck problems, the list goes on.
not everyone who runs a biz is rich.

i consider myself fortunate if i can pay my bills.

as far as the rest, well yes M-rex has the best ideas, and for the millionth time if it was as simple as telling the cops "X has a gun" i would do that.

it is not that simple. these folks stash things everywhere, he doesnt carry it around. last night i was unable to locate guy so i am not sure it exists anymore.
however- contrary to popular opinion, the odds of this gun ending up with someone who will use it for armed robbery is pretty low.
from what i gathered, guy was at least trying to find someone with a house, someone relatively stable to sell it to- and its a rifle , not a pistol, so it is less desirable for gangbangers etc.

not that that makes me all that less nervous about it.
jamz,. not a bad idea either- i am planning to tell them to destroy it themselves or start worrrying about the police coming for it if they dont- assuming it is still around.

one way or another, it will be out of my scope of knoledge by the end of today, ill see what i can do.
 
do any of your "friends" hang out at an Internet Cafe? Just imagine there might be a few around, and the good folk of Berkeley, being good libs, would not mind that a bit. Don't suppose your screen name gives a tip off to your rea name, but that is not necessary--you've already identified your business and business practices, plus your location.

Chances of any of them latching on to this thread are slim, but, my tinfoil hat's itching me right now
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that's a bridge i may have to cross eventually.

this site- slim chance- but tribe.net, ive already taken my chances.
thorn is much more than a screen name.

HERE- an example of how my associations end up helping.

the Berkeley theatre burns down.
some homeless tell me they found tools, etc- i ask where- they tell me they are hitting the burned theatre, planning to full on empty everything worth taking.

i post it to tribe.net, someone else calls theatre, warns them, security is added, theft averted.

(i then went back thru park, warned people NOT to try and take stuff from theatre, its being watched)
 
magsnubby said:
Homeless guy thinks: "Thorny's got money. I gotta rifle. Think i'll take Thorny's money. And his truck".
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homeless guy remembers how many friends thorn has, WHO thorn is , what the odds are of going straight to prison are, and whether leaving berkeley permanently is going to be worth any of that nonsense.

get over it.

where you gonna go with my truck? to the junkyard? see keep making assumptions that i have no idea who i am dealing with and what they are capable of. you cant steal a truck like mine. OMG that would be some comedy


like i said, there are things here you all just will not understand.

there's a social dynamic on the street, people are held accountable, good people have protections, i grow tired in expalining all this.

i need to write a book for y'all, and believe me , i am.
 
In Closing

well, no news and worse, i cant afford my net bill so i will be offline till further notice, hopefully not too long.

thanks for the good advice, in the future i am going to try and fund it this way=
if i hear of a stolen gun , i will attempt to have the holder disable it, maybe bring
my the firing pin, for a fee. gun is destroyed, everyone's happy.

dont forget, im still a crazy hippy- you say "you dont want to end up shot by some BG with it"

i also say-
"i dont want to get herded into some cattle car by a JBT with it either!"

it aint good enough for me, it aint good enough for them !

thanks guys. for the confused, try to read all my postings here, maybe youll get enlightened a little, the story got pretty jerked around.
 
Thorn,

You have to do what you think is right, of course. At the very least, you could document the initial incident, along with the make/model of the firearm, and a description and whatever other information you have on the homeless guy who wanted you to take the firearm off his hands. Think of it as a CYA in case you do have to call the local authorities on him.

I hope it works out.
 
best so far

dfaugh said:
Let's see...We have a speed freak, trying to sell a gun, that was almost surely stolen...He's probably tried to sell it to multiple people....So, call the cops, tell them where to find the guy, let them set up a "sting" where he has to bring them the gun...I don't see any way this could be traced back to you...You're acting as a CI, and the cops will keep your name outa it...Common sense prevails...
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WHEN YOU CALL THE POLICE ASK FOR A DETECTIVE IN THE (ROBBERY/THEIFT/WHAT EVER FITS?) DIVISION.
 
How about Thorn calls the PD, gets them to set up a sting, he receives the gun and the police come in and """arrest""" Thorn AND the scumbal with the gun. Thorn gets seen being taken off to jail in cuffs and 'makes bail' within a few hours.

As for using Thorn's service, I cant imagine a job I would not do myself or left undone rather than having dopers and dirtbags on my property.
 
gone/ some positives

no , i had no plans to actually touch it myself.

so i found out that dude found rifle hidden, and by the time he returned, it was already gone. so thief number one, (unidentified) got it back.
he had found it hidden, and by disturbing it, whoever originally stashed it bugged and moved it. he had only 2 rounds and the scope, which were elsewhere, stashed.

i was assured by all present - they have no more desire to be shot than any of us, the few and far between guns they find, they are relatively careful of who gets them, but i offered a better solution, i told some guys in the future, if they come across a gun, rip out the firing pin or other essential part and ill pay them something.
i dont have to touch anything. its pretty rare that they get them, and its usually this kind of thing, found in a stash spot or a dumpster , etc.
theyre scavengers more than thieves, not home invaders.
not to justify anything, i am constantly yelling at them for being so dumb, they do steal too often. some have hope some , i have to ignore
anyone who can fix a gun from that already has one, better yet, we got a good laugh from the idea of why not just file down the firing pin before selling to idiot
not like they can test it.....

anyway- everyone there agreed the idea of disabling any guns on the street was a VERY good idea, including the guy who initially offered rifle.

so there is some hope that a few guns will instead of getting circulated as stolen weapons will become stolen lumps of steel, and considering some of them are found rather than stolen ,that's the real help.

like when stupid college kid's mom comes to visit, and he puts his wannabe gangster .38 in the dumpster out back of the frat house- the gun gets destroyed rather than passed on to a BG after some diver gets it.

anyway , glad my net connect lasted long enough to round this up, ill be back sometime
 
Wow. Reading this thread brings on some bad flash-backs of California. "Homeless camps" in the woods...

Picture me: idealistic, young, Kerouac-reading kid from the Midwest, having grown up around kind, Earth-loving, aging hipsters; hitch-hiking the West coast and coming to the grim realization that these California "hippies" are nothing like my peeps back home. Lying, backstabbing, self-serving, insular, low-life, panhandling, street scum is a more accurate description than "hippie" for about 90% of the people I met. The rest were either wild-eyed Communists, poseur college kids, and about 2% actual cool people.

I practically kissed the mud when I made it back to the Mississippi...
 
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