Official says FBI offended Mexican Sovereignty

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http://www.concordmonitor.com/stories/front2003/031103mexico_2003.shtml

Where outlaws and Robin Hood meet

FBI's attempt to catch train robbers backfires
By MARY JORDAN
The Washington Post
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CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico - The Mexican bandits wait in the darkness for the sound that tells them pay dirt is approaching. And right on schedule, the Union Pacific train whistle cuts the darkness, shrill and clear, and a slow-moving freight train rumbles around the curve.

The FBI says that for years the bandits have been hustling up to the tracks through a hole in the fence at the U.S.-Mexico border. Using techniques passed down from father to son, they climb aboard and trip the emergency brake to stop the train. Then, the FBI says, they smash open containers, quickly grab as much loot as they can carry - on a good night television sets, on a bad night toilet paper - and scurry back through the fence into Mexico.

Train robberies have been common along this stretch of borderland, where Mexicans living in the tin shacks of a slum community called Anapra look across the tracks to American prosperity and, with alarming regularity, steal some of it for themselves.

Then the FBI's Hardrick Crawford Jr. came along.

"It's like the 1880s here - the Dalton gang and Jessie James ride again," said Crawford, special agent in charge of the FBI office in El Paso, just across the border from Ciudad Juarez. "Union Pacific was getting hit nightly. Hello! It's 2003. You don't rob trains. We decided enough was enough."

So after nightfall on Sept. 12, Crawford put into action a joint sting operation. About 70 FBI and U.S. Border Patrol agents lay hidden, some in random container cars of a train, some near the tracks. On the Mexican side, 70 Juarez police and federal customs agents, also hidden, waited as a half-mile-long freight train chugged toward bandit territory.

But nothing went as planned - a violent brawl erupted, severely injuring two FBI agents - and the fallout from that night now threatens future law enforcement cooperation between the two countries.

"It's definitely had a chilling effect," Crawford said.

He said it would now be much more difficult for the FBI to help investigate the unsolved murders of more than 300 Juarez women in recent years. As the body count along the border continues to rise, international human rights groups have asked that the bureau get involved.

The robbers stopped the train as usual that September night. Gang leader Eduardo "Lalo" Calderon and nearly 20 men smashed open a container - where three FBI agents were waiting. The ugly fistfight spilled off the train into the sand.

FBI agent Samantha Mikeska managed to handcuff Calderon before someone cracked her over the head with a baseball bat. Despite a shattered bone in her face, she held onto Calderon as his buddies dragged both of them through the fence into Mexico.

FBI agent Sergio Barrio, his own skull fractured in the fight, ran through the fence to try to rescue Mikeska. Calderon, still handcuffed, fled into the night with his gang. As the two bleeding FBI agents scrambled back onto U.S. soil, a third FBI agent fired a shot into the air, bringing dozens of U.S. and Mexican agents running.

There the disagreements begin. The Anapra residents and their attorneys say several armed FBI agents, who have no jurisdiction in Mexico and are not allowed to carry guns here, illegally accompanied Juarez police searching for suspects. These accusations, never backed up by any evidence, have been widely reported in Mexican media as an "FBI invasion" of Mexico.

Crawford calls that "nonsense." He said no FBI agent went searching for suspects in Mexico that night. The only ones who set foot on Mexican soil, he said, were Mikeska, who was dragged, and Barrio, who went to rescue her.

"I am well aware that there is ultra-sensitivity about us operating in Mexico," Crawford said. "But if you call that an invasion, I say, 'Knock yourself out.' "

One of the few undisputed facts is that after a search that night of Anapra, on the western edge of Juarez, 10 residents were marched onto U.S. territory by the hMexican police and turned over as suspects. Those people claimed to be innocent bystanders. In December, after they had spent three months in U.S. jails, a federal judge ruled that there was insufficient evidence to charge them and ordered them released.

Two other Mexicans arrested that night remain in custody in the United States, facing charges of assault and attempted robbery. Calderon is a fugitive.

To the FBI, the incident illustrates how all too easy it is for common thugs to use the border as a shield from justice. But to many Mexicans, the issue has snowballed into an emotional rallying point - not about crime, but about national sovereignty.

Last week, a Mexican federal prosecutor in Juarez called for the arrest of the Mexican police and customs agents involved. He wants them charged with treason. A judge is now considering whether to issue arrest warrants. A spokesman for the Juarez police declined to comment.

"What happened that night bothers anybody who has blood in their veins," said Rodolfo Quevedo Gallardo, a defense attorney representing the 10 Mexicans. Quevedo, who is considering a run for mayor, said the city's police "betrayed their country" and the FBI offended Mexicans by "violating their sovereignty" that night.

He and others said it is understandable that Mexicans, who endure long lines and seemingly endless questions from U.S. border authorities every day to cross into the United States to work or shop, resent the idea of U.S. officers barging into their territory without permission.

"We paid for what the robbers did; it's not fair," said Concepcion Garcia, 51, who said she was dragged out of her house by her hair and forced onto the U.S. side of the fence by the Mexican police. She said she lost her job cleaning homes because of the three months she was detained.

In Anapra, one of the poorest and largest slum communities along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border, the train robbery incident has also become a symbol of the inequality between the two nations. Juarez Mayor Jesus Alfredo Delgado said emotions can be raw along a border where "the First World meets Third World."

"I don't think it is fair for us to have so little," said Garcia, who can look over the tracks from her shack and see Sunland Park, N.M., an upscale community with a well-watered country club.

Many Anapra residents see the robberies as almost romantic, like Robin Hood righting social injustice. As one said, the trains kept coming despite the losses, so it couldn't have been that big of a deal to whatever rich company owned them.

John Bromley, a spokesman for Union Pacific Railroad, declined to estimate the total value of goods stolen over the years, but noted that since the September raid, there have been no successful train robberies.


Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003

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Maybe instead of robbing our trains they should try reforming their own country. They'll find plenty of country clubs adjacent to the villas of their own oligarchs. Their banditos are smart enough not to try and storm those gates for booty, knowing that the Mexican elite lacks the "compassion" that our own President is famed for.
 
What I want to know is why there weren't more FBI agents handy with more firepower.
The Anapra residents and their attorneys say several armed FBI agents, who have no jurisdiction in Mexico and are not allowed to carry guns here
Why wasn't this dealt with beforehand? Would it really have been so hard to work some deal where the FBI can cross into Mexico to help the Mexicans chase these theives, and vice-versa? They call it a "joint operation", but they're operating independently of each other. I don't advoctae Mexican police having authority in the US, or that we should be soverign there, but an extra pair of hands, baton, flashlight, gun, handcuffs, etc. certainly shouldn't be a violation of soverignty if it lasts for a short time.
 
I read it a couple times and feel I must have missed a sentence or two. They lack the intellect or dedication to solve murders, human rights orginazitions ask us to assist but we can't have weapons there?

Sounds to me like the Mexican government just made a decision to kill its own women along the border.

I still haven't figured out why the US government hasn't made the decision to employ out-of-work construction workers to build a 15 ft tall wall the entire length of the border. Sniper towers every few miles and a few more at the hot spots.
 
Sounds like its not mexican sovereignty that was violated. Time and time again, American sovereignty was violated in the various train robberies, and yet our idiot politicians are not outraged.

Our ancestors fought a war against Mexico for far less.
 
What Cratz2 said. I can think of nothing that would give me greater satisfaction than to know our Southern border was secured against the hoards of illegals who come to this country bringing nothing and demanding much.

I have said before that but for the masses of illegal Mexicans (and other hispanics from Central and South America) infiltrating this country, our western states would have far less taxes imposed on their citizens to pay for the onslaught.

I'm not sure that a 15 foot wall would be sufficient, but I bet the smell of bodies left in the sun as a result of the snipers posted on the wall would surely be.


"I LOVE THE SMELL OF BLUEDOT IN THE MORNING!!!"
 
Is it just me?

Or am I going nuts...

-- The USA is invaded every minute or two by Mexicans ILLEGALLY crossing our borders, and we give them food, shelter and
free health care (while MILLIONS of US citizens are without health insurance)...and our constitutional rights.

-- The USA is invaded "by mistake" on a regular basis by Mexican troops and Mexican police ILLEGALLY crossing our borders -- perhaps even to help drug dealers.

Now Mexico is upset because their nationals invaded the USA to rob a train, and in the process they almost killed and dragged two FBI agents into Mexico and we (our law enforcement) allegedly entered Mexico to help find the "dirt bags" that attacked the agents.

What the heck is going on!

All I can say is that when it comes to Mexico, "what's up is down and what's right is wrong!"

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

P.S. We cannot even count on our "buddy" Mexico to support our position in the UN.

Just my 2 pesos...
 
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Our prez, is to busy dealing with a country 5000 miles away to be worried about 1000s of illegals crossin the border, and then
providing cheap labor for corporate America.

The Bush and the Fox are old buddies

Hey!, isn't G. Bush Sr. buddies with the Saudi elites

Something stinks!

I wonder...

waterdog
 
There's method to the madness. Saudi Arabia, Mexico, and China are our REAL problems but those countries appear untouchable. Do any of us have to guess why? How many of our politicians are involved with deals with these nations? One of these days we are going to have face up to the depth of the problems we have at home. All the adventurism abroad in the world won't cure what we have allowed to fester here.
 
The only time Federales win hot pursuit is when they get lucky.
That said, some of the contents of previous posts are insulting to Hispanic culture and people. There are sub human miscreants everywhere, from every culture.

Arguing policy is one thing, insulting an entire people or culture is another. If you don't want to take the high road, why are you here?
 
Not enough armed agents on duty here, as I see it.

How about several on top of most of the cars, say armed with Rem 870 Police Magnums or similar weapons. Here is the Rule Of Engagement...You touch the train, You get shot.

Leave a few rotting in the sun, twisting in the wind, etc..... the theivery would stop fairly soon.

Harsh? Unforgiving ? [and my favorite] Mean Spirited ?

Yes to all 3.

But it would only have to be done twice.
 
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