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OH - Idiot cop fires blank in office prank

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  1. braindead0

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    Two Jackson officers suspended for firing blank in office prank
    Wednesday, February 19, 2003
    By MELISSA GRIFFY Repository staff writer
    JACKSON TWP. — What police officers called a joke has landed two with suspensions from duty.

    Sgt. Barry Lyons and Patrol Officer Patrick Pileggi were disciplined for collaborating on the prank: Shooting a .357-caliber handgun with blank rounds in it to scare other police employees.

    The victim of the prank told officers she was frightened — she thought the gun was real and that Lyons had been shot.

    It wasn’t the first time the prank has been played, Pileggi told investigators with the department.

    But this is the first time officers have been disciplined.

    Lyons is serving eight days suspension for committing an unsafe act and dishonesty. Beginning Saturday, Pileggi will serve three days suspension for committing an unsafe act.

    Police Chief Harley Neftzer said the punishment — the third-most serious the department can impose — will set an example for other officers.

    “This type of behavior will not be tolerated,†Neftzer said. “We have to hold our people accountable for their actions so that the public trusts we are a professional, reputable department.â€

    A temporary clerical employee, Christi Stevens, also was involved, and will be disciplined by her agency, according to Neftzer.

    There were actually two incidents within an hour, according to Police Lt. Chris Rudy, the investigating officer.

    Rudy said police told him that between 8 and 9 p.m. Dec. 9, Stevens was talking to officers when a gun containing cotton ball wads (blank rounds) was fired at the floor. Rudy was unable to determine who fired the gun or where the gun came from.

    A short time later, Rudy said, Stevens, Pileggi and Lyons decided to pull a prank on Shelley Bender, a clerical worker.

    According to the investigation:

    • Lyons called Bender into his office under the premise of asking her about an accident report.

    • He pretended he was selling the gun to Pileggi. Lyons then handed Pileggi the gun.

    • Pileggi fired the gun behind Lyons, and both pretended it went off accidentally.

    • Lyons fell back in his chair, pretending to be hurt.

    Lyons, a supervisor, denied the allegations, but Rudy found Lyons did not honestly answer questions about the incident during the investigation.

    Bender said the prank upset her. She thought the gun was real and that Lyons had been shot.

    “I agree we all play practical jokes on each other, but not to this extreme,†Bender told Rudy.

    Pileggi said the prank is an ongoing one and that Lyons told him to play along. Pileggi called it a bad decision, but told Rudy, “It’s happened several times in the past.â€

    Lyons is a former firearms instructor. Neftzer said the weapon used during the prank is a real gun and could be used to fire live ammunition. It has a marking on it, according to Neftzer, that it should be used only for training, however.
     
  2. Steve in PA

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    Idiots!!!!!:cuss:
     
  3. Greg L

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    Yet another reason why only the police should be trusted with guns. :rolleyes:

    At least the idiots are being punished.

    Greg
     
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    :fire: I think they have it all Wrong...Its to Serve and Protect. Not Serve and Punk.:fire: What a bunch of morons. They should have been terminated.
     
  5. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

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    Guns are not playthings.

    Pranks are for children.
     
  6. braindead0

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    I love the part about
    We'll, that's fine then.. once you mark a gun "for blanks only" nobody would dream of putting real ammo in it.

    The scary thing is, that station is very close to my house..
     
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    I bet you feel a lot safer knowing that, too. :banghead:
     
  8. Coronach

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    Greeeeeaaaaatttttt.

    Mike
     
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    Are these the same Buckeye cops who have been bleating that only the police should be trusted with carrying pistols in Ohio and not us mere serfs?:rolleyes:
     
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    These folks have been quiet. Actually, the Chief of Police in Canton is for CCW...the only good thing this city has going ;-)
     
  11. Still Learning

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    Unbelievable!

    :cuss: :fire: :banghead:

    Since when do they allow high school sophomores to be police officers?
     
  12. Ebbtide

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    I would bet that locker room pranks like this are common among cops, getting a clerical worker involved is where they went wrong. No "brotherhood" among non-brothers.

    Otherwise, I would have liked to seen the look on that face (I guess that is sophmoric, but I am who I am).
     
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    Yeah, and everybody else was speeding too, but I get the ticket. What's your point?

    The hypocrisy sickens me. :fire: :barf:
     
  14. Coronach

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    I can say that they're not common. I've only seen such things in Police Academy movies.

    Now, humorous things happening to cruisers, on the other hand...

    Like the rabid Buckeye fan on my precinct that drove around through half of the shift with a Michigan Wolverines magnetic decal on his passenger side door...during OSU/Michigan week...well...I know absolutely nothing about that.

    Mike :innocent smiley:
     
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    A very long time ago my father showed my grandmother how fast he could slap the cuffs on her. She had asked about how they were trained to do it and he just jumped up and did it.

    Trouble was, the key was two miles away at his sister-in-laws house.

    John
     
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  17. Jeff White

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    Police officers, just like members of any other profession have their own (sometimes twisted) sense of humor. I have seen all kinds of practical jokes played over the years. Coronach is right most of them involve squad cars :D

    Police stations are interesting places...In most of them you could leave thousands in cash on your desk and no one would think of touching it, but an unopened box of Girl Scout cookies left on the same desk might be fair game.


    I only know of one practical joke involving a firearm and it was of the bullet hole decal on the car window variety. I once went with another officer to talk the owner of the computer store in town out of a junk monitor that was destined for the trash so we could play a joke on the 911 coordinator. There was training going on for a new computer program. We took the junk monitor to the range, shot it (Winchester 115 gr 9mm +P+ will not go through and through a monitor BTW) and replaced a good monitor in the class room with it. He came in the next morning and for a brief second thought that a frustrated officer had shot the monitor.

    Faking a shooting in front of anybody is way out of line. :fire:

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    Wow, so now cops can't play jokes on each other. :rolleyes:

    I wish I was a perfect as some of you are. :rolleyes:

    I do disagree with involving a clerical employee, those pranks are for cops only, since cops humor is so warped to beginn with.
     
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    I don't think anybody is saying they can't play *practical* jokes. This one was way outta line.

    OTOH, I'll be sure to ask the next Jackson Township cop I see.. are you sure that's not a blank shooting gun?
     
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    Come on Delta, your blind defense of everything municipal ought to be able to see through this one. Lesse here. You hear a gunshot in a police station, what do you do? Probably if I were another cop in there I would draw and go investigate. Real smart, make gun noises where lots of guns are. Second, blanks kill. Third, not to much of a stretch to see live ammo getting tossed into the mix. If you want to put CS powder on somebody's donut, or copier toner on the phone earpiece, fine. Guns aren't toys, and this ain't Supertroopers.
     
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    Delta, funny how I see a lot of non-cops get hit with Criminal Recklessness, Criminal Reckless with a Deadly Weapon, Intimidation, Pointing a Firearm, or Disorderly Conduct, for "pranks" exactly like this. Silly serfs--know your place amonst thou perfect knights or the king's marquis, the prosecutor, will cast ye into gaol!:D

    El Tejon--off to pay for the knight's noble steed.
     
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    Those guys are morons and should be demoted to unarmed meter maids.:fire:
     
  23. DeltaElite

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    Blind defense of everything municipal? Someone needs to read my posts more closely. ;)

    So maybe the gun is a bit much for a prank, but if this wasn't cops, nobody would even care. It was a marked training gun, only confused for a real gun by the cranially impaired.
    It's co-workers playing pranks on each other.
    Sadly since it is cops, people want their heads.

    Society has become too uptight and too politically correct.
    So much so, that pranks lead to criminal charges and lawsuits, initiated by the lame people that populate our society.
    Frankly, I am surprised no one was charged or terminated in this incident.

    Hey aint freedom of humor covered under the 1A anyway? ;)
     
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    Delta, "freedom of humor/freedom to have fun", hey, that's my line! Funny that your marquess, the prosecutor, does not laugh, but adjust his sword belt and start talking about "the rule of law" and "upholding the king's edicts." However, we talk about non-cops.;)
     
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    [hammer--geez, I'm a moron]
     
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