OHIO gears up for CCW

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Both WKRC and WCPO news of Cincinnati reported tonight that Clermont County is giving the CCW pamphlets out to prepare people who have taken the CCW coarse required to apply for a permit. While no other counties have reported on the availability as of yet, I can only assume they will be following suit within the next few days when there are enough to go around. Both television news stations also reported that over 550 people have successfully taken and passed the state certified CCW coarse and are just awaiting for the application submission time to open (April 8th). So expect for some wait time before you get your CCW permit. Let me know if you have any further information on this.

All the information regarding the Ohio CCW permit laws and requirements can be found at:
Ohio Attorney General - Conceal Carry

or you can check the specific links below: (Posted in Adobe Reader)

Concealed Carry Publication (updated 3/19/04)
Concealed Carry Publication - Print Quality (updated 3/19/04))
Concealed Carry Publication - Online Request Form)
Concealed Carry Training Fact Sheet (updated 3/18/04))

Application for a Temporary License)
Application for a Standard License)
(NOTE: These applications may be printed in hard copy form, filled out and taken to a county sheriff's office beginning April 8th.)

Search for OPOTC Certified Concealed Carry Instructors)
Search for NRA Certified Instructors)

Ohio House Bill 12 (Concealed Carry Bill))
Concealed Carry FAQ (updated 3/29/04))
Information on Reciprocity)

Also check out OhioCCW Training and Ohioans For Concealed Carry for related information (Both are non-official websites)
 
For what it's worth there are a number of officers (myself included) who are volunteering to donate time to the local sherriffs office and work on recieving and processing permit applications. At least until we get through the "crunch" period and the regular employees can take it from there. You might enquire if the local metro officers feel the same way and cook something up for you local SO.

HTH ... Jim
 
From what I've seen (from the backroom as it were), many Sheriffs are going to be ready to go. Some are setting up special areas to handle the rush. I've heard of at least one that says appointments will be needed, but that's the exception.
 
There are several sherriff's offices that are intending to be 'difficult' when the time to accept applications rolls around. From OFCC...

http://www.ofccpac.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1289

In recent days, there have been more and more reports of Ohio sheriffs who claim to be having problems meeting the April 8 start-date for Ohio's new concealed handgun licensure law.


In Cuyahoga Co., the sheriff's office is telling citizens they won't take applications until their new office space is prepared, perhaps around the end of May.

In Darke, Stark and Tuscawaras counties, sheriffs are attempting to accept applications "by appointment only".

In Shelby Co., the sheriff is attempting to add an additional hour-long class (taught by himself) to the requirements for getting a license.

Ohioans For Concealed Carry and the Buckeye State Sheriff's Association wish to remind Ohioans that the law gives sheriffs NO discretion in terms of when they may begin accepting applications, nor for adding additional requirements, nor for delaying the acceptance of license applications via mandatory appointments.

Buckeye State Sheriff's Association Executive Director Bob Cornwell stresses that sheriffs have a "duty under the law" to accept applications on April 8 to "everyone who shows up and files one", and to issue licenses to qualified applicants, within 45 days. Sheriffs must also be prepared to issue temporary emergency licenses to those meeting the requirements, on April 8.

OFCC will take any failures to comply with this shall-issue law with the utmost seriousness.

Please forward reports of any potentially illegal delays to [email protected].
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Wait, so the sheriffs HAVE to start accepting apps on the 8th? My understanding was that they had 30 days to set everything up after they received all the paperwork from the AG, or did the AG already pass everything out? Mass confusion lol.
 
You can also apply in a county neighboring the one in which you live. You may have to make a short drive and wait in a line, but you can simply avoid the Sheriffs which are being uncooperative. Ideally SHeriffs will comply with the law, but the legislature accounted for this problem when they passed the law.
 
Sigh!:( Sounds like Ohioans are going to have to sue several Sheriff's for violation of their rights! Why can't they just get with the program and stop the nonsense!
 
Ohio Sheriffs

Keep in mind that few of the SOs in Ohio are the size of or have the resources of Cuyahoga, Franklin, Hamilton or the other large urban and suburban counties. Many if not most are smaller rural agencies with staffing and budget problems that this will not help. This process will be a tremendous burden to the agencies that can least support it. While the AG's office and BSSA may be assisting, that wont mean much when you only have one or two clerks working who are already deep in paperwork. Many agencies have only several or fewer deputies working at any given time, and they already have plenty to do.

Why this could not have been handeled thru any of the registrar agencies is a mystery to me. Title and license bureaus are designed to handle this type of workflow, whereas Sheriff's Offices are not. Of course Ohio DPS would not want anything to do with this, given OSP's reticence about the bill.

Please do not be too rough on the Sheriff's Offices. Those who will be deliberately obstructionist will most likely be in the minority. Futhermore, the brunt of the problems will fall on clerks who are not in any position to do anything, so I would hope that if the process becomes frustrating we can all remain civil.
 
Seems my Sheriff will be ready with no attitude. Pics, laminated ID's for an extra $5. I've had all my documentation ready for a week with extra 2X2 pics just in case. Just waiting for the 8th to come...tic...tic...tic...Oh so slow:(
 
Hey ZAN i spoke with the Butler Bounty Sherriffs Department and they said that they would be accpeting applications on the 12th. Not running too far behind.

Just remember if you live in a crappy county that is causing problems you can always go to an adjoining county.

I myslef am going to wait a little bit just till the kinks get worked out. plus i am still waiting on my class:rolleyes: should be 3 weeks now.

Zan you're in Cincy we need to meet and hit the range sometime!

i was reading over the application and had a question. It says all applicable questions must be answered. do i really have to give them my cell phone number???
 
Cybercop- Kudo's to you my friend. Good work.

A friend of a friend of mine who is a CDP Detective tells me that the attitude toward CCW is VERY poor among her colleagues...as in "we are going to nail everyone we can, on the slightest of violations". I hope everyone gets good training and sticks to the letter of the law. The last thing we need are a lot of well publicized busts in the first year. :(
 
A friend of a friend of mine who is a CDP Detective tells me that the attitude toward CCW is VERY poor among her colleagues...as in "we are going to nail everyone we can, on the slightest of violations". I hope everyone gets good training and sticks to the letter of the law. The last thing we need are a lot of well publicized busts in the first year.
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It will probably be like it was here in Texas. A lot of arrests with these stats VERY well publicized, then most will be quietly found innocent or charges dropped with NO publicity.
 
This may be a stupid question, but what's with all the "in plain sight" requirements? Isn't that the opposite of concealed carry?

Q. How do I carry my concealed handgun while driving?
A. Make sure the handgun is in a holster on your person in plain sight, locked in a glove
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I was pulled over by a Nevada Highway Patrol trooper a couple years ago. I was openly carrying a Ruger P90 in a belt slide holster on my right side, but because I was seated, the trooper couldn't see it. If that were Ohio, would I have had to take the gun out and put it in the glove box, and then reholster before getting out of the car? Yeah, that wouldn't attract any attention in downtown Cleveland.....

And I'm sorry, but I think it would be a VERY stupid idea to leave your pistol in your car "in plain sight" if you can't take it into a business with you. If I know the place I'm going won't allow me to carry, like the local PD for instance, I leave it at home (not something I like to do, but it beats going to jail). And, if I get someplace only to find they have a sign on the door, I don't go in.
 
I believe "in plain sight" will be defined either this week or next for the purposes of CCW. Hopefully it just means that your shirt isn't covering it. Another problem is that the law states the gun must be in a holster, well that's a problem for women as they wear dresses so hopefully they'll remove the holster part due to discrimination against women.
 
pheonix

Try The Deerhunter in Norton. It is a bit of a drive but not too much.



On a different note I hear thru the grapevine that the SO in Summit County is gonna drag the process out as long as possible. Word in Wayne County is that it should take 20-30 days.
 
Good news for me. County Sheriff says he will be ready 4/9 with just a 10 day turn-a-round time. I think he's looking to get outside county business. Thats the American Way!:)
 
>Atticus
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>Cybercop- Kudo's to you my friend. Good work.
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>A friend of a friend of mine who is a CDP Detective tells me that the attitude toward CCW is VERY poor >among her colleagues...as in "we are going to nail everyone we can, on the slightest of violations". I >hope everyone gets good training and sticks to the letter of the law. The last thing we need are a lot of >well publicized busts in the first year.

We have a few officers who feel the same way, however they tend to cool off real quick when you tell them to play it strait because you would hate to testify against them at their civil trial. Add to that at least 35% of sworn personnel (maybe more) are planning on getting their CCW permits. I which you could have witnessed the nashing of teeth from our CoC and politicos when they found out that they couldn't forbid us from aquiring them. There really sore about it because the rural conservitive part of the state woke up and beat them about the head and shoulders, and their not used to it ..... yet!

Stay Safe ... Jim
 
Pheonix, try these:

Traynor's Police Academy 837-9295

Stark State College 494-6170 (ask for continuing Education)

Ohio Outdoor Sports 456-1041

I'll be teaching for Traynor, and Stark State has good instructors. I don't know who's handling the classes for Ohio Outdoor Sports.

The Attorney General's web site also lists NRA and OPOTC certified instructors by County
 
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