OK, I'm a wimp.

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I ran 20 rounds thru my 870 yesterday.

5 winchester 00 buck
5 remington #4 buck
5 Federal reduced recoil tactical slugs
5 Federal reduced recoil tactical Buck shot

The Winchester was OK, the Federals were a joy, and the Remingtons tore my damn shoulder off.

I've got a 870 magnum, with wood stock, and standard base/recoil pad.

I'll probably be putting a black synthetic stock on this gun in the future. Any brands or configurations that help with felt recoil? If I stick with the wood stocks, who makes best recoil pad?

Guess, I'm not as tough as I was when I was 20. Or 30. Or.... O, hell, never mind.

Thanks for the help!
 
I thought Badgers were tough? I'm gonna have to change the name of my business. My suggestion, get over it. Just pound away with the big stuff till you get used to it. But that's just me.
 
I've heard some folks rave about the Hogue Compstock for the 870, though I've never shot or even seen one myself. Then, other folks will jump in and advise a Pachmyer decelerator pad, and to make sure the stock fits, and why do you wanna shoot a bunch of hard kicking stuff anyway? If you try the Hogues, let us know how you like 'em.

Cg
 
I've got a 870 magnum, with wood stock, and standard base/recoil pad.

I'll probably be putting a black synthetic stock on this gun in the future. Any brands or configurations that help with felt recoil? If I stick with the wood stocks, who makes best recoil pad?
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It's been my experience (limited though) that of 2 identical guns, one synthetic stocked and one wood stocked, the synthetic stock had more recoil.

One the 500 mossy with synthetics, I have about 1 1/2 lbs of sand sewn into a shot bag and stuffed into the stock. Recoil is diminished greatly.
 
You might not be a wimp after all...

Magnum buckshot loads kick, no doubt about it. A good pad is going to help. I would NOT suggest putting a synthetic stock on it, they cut weight and lower weight means you get smacked harder. Try the Sims Vibration Laboratories pad, or a kick-eez (sp?). Either will help a lot. The pachmyer gets good reviews but I don't know why, IMO they are not that good. You can add weight and that will help a lot, more than most people think it could. Put weight in the stock and in the mag tube if the gun starts feeling "whippy".

Try a 3.5" 870 with 2 oz high velocity turkey loads if you want some real fun:what: :what: Hope your fillings are all good and tight:neener:
 
45 Badger, a 7 lb 870 shooting 1300 FPS loads of 1 1/2 oz has about the same free recoil as a 375 H&H weighing 9 lbs with the 275 gr 2700 FPS load.

The REAL reason lot of folks add mag extensions, Side Saddles, etc, on shotguns is to add weight and cut the felt recoil.

You're no more a wimp than the rest of us Manly Men.

Here's what I suggest.

Review the thread on proper mounting techniques up in the floaters.

Your stock should be short enough to mount easily and long enough that there's an inch or so between your thumb and nose. While the Rempad isn't bad, the Decellerator, KickEez or Goeey are better. For max protection, install but leave untrimmed. it'll look funny, but all that area really helps spread out the push.

Now that fit and form are OK, leave the Magnums alone and use up some light field loads. Once your body "Knows" the 870, then click the energy up by increments.

The Compstock works, IMO. But, with proper fit, form and load, not needed all that much...

HTH....
 
what i did to get an 870 that wouldn't kick my step-daughter around

proper fit, decellorator (or other similar GOOD pad), "Dead Mule" recoil reducer (available from brownells i think, got mine from a friend). teh dead mule is basicly a mercury capsule tht fits into the stock-bolt cavity. in addition to adding weight, the fact that the mercury "flows" against the direction of recoil helps as well. there is also a version that goes on the end of the magazine tube.


i never tried out the whole "rig" with any magnum shells but, in my oppinion, it made standard Dove and quail loads feel like a .22 or less.
 
Heck, I know you ain't a wimp, Badger. Maybe stock fit could be improved. If it don't come up with your eyes closed and sight picture aligned, it don't fit right, like Mr. Dave says.
 
I would say that you're holding the gun incorrectly. Once one learns how to mount a gun specifically for their body, the felt recoil is dimished exponentially. So...

Are you holding it very tight?
Where is the top of the butt in your shoulder?
Are you pushing into your shoulder or away from your shoulder?
Do you drink Starbucks in the morning while reading the "Communist Manifesto"? Just kidding! ;)
How is your cheek weld?
 
Have you tried one of those rubber slip-on booties?? I bought one for my 308 bolt, and it was at least 50% less felt recoil...
 
I'm curious, have you pulled the pad off of the gun yet? What did it look like underneath? Is it a real all-rubber pad or one of their big plastic spacers with a little piece of rubber stretched over it?

If you haven't, oil up a screwdriver and pull it off and see.

John
 
Mounting: I learned how important that is after firing a shot from a 12ga breach load wallyworld special while crouched, and spent the next 10 minutes hopping around rubbing my collarbone, using choice english. :cuss:

Recoil: Decided I didnt really like slugs overmuch when I took at shot at a fencepost with my grandpappy's old browning (? cant remmeber now) and found myself facing 90 degrees right from where i started. Slug blasted right through a solid splitrail pressuretreated post though.
 
PRACTICE!

Drop down to whatever you can stand to shoot 25 of at a time.

Just plink with them and have fun.

Then step up a notch at a time to what you were shooting.
 
45,

IMHO, those magnum loads just kick. I shot 10 3" mag turkey loads through my 870 with factory synthetic stock and was glad when I pulled the trigger on the last one. Your 20 rounds would make anybody punch drunk.
 
Think about this, Badger, and you'll understand the kicking that the No. 4 shells gave you...

A load of 27 pellets of No. 4 buck weights about half as much again more as a load of 9 pellets of 00 buck. It's all about how the pellets pack into the load.

If they're both loaded to the same dram equiv., and shot out of the same gun, you're really going to feel the difference in recoil.
 
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