Mannlicher
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you could consult your unit armorer...................
Okay, folks. Let's keep it clean.
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Hey, Harley Quinn, Golden Shellback. That's a rare crustation. I'm just a regular kind of Shellback. I would like to take the time to thank you and all my fellow veterans for their service.
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Good way to get shot at, by friendly fire or pick up a boobie-traped weapon.
"TW-25" we're haveing good luck with it, it hasn't integrated through out the entire Marine Corps though. The Air Wing had been useing it for a few years, it's makeing it's way to the ground side slowly. It is like LSA-T, but a little thinner, it bakes into the metal, it does attract a bit of dust, but nothing like CLP. The Air Wing has it, about the only thing tactical I've ever learned from that side of the house, so if your lucky enough to get time on the FOB with BOB, try to track down one of the door gunners, they buy it by the gallon, but it does come in tubes and small bottles.
You have to clean a M16 daily, weather it's a A2, A4, M4, M41, SR-25, MK-11, they're just designed to be a tight rifle. Seems like a pain in the butt, but the accuracy you get out of them puts the AK to shame.
Use compressed air to clean the dust off, 7 ton air compressor, some of that canned air they use on computers or a small air compressor for a nail gun. Get one of those plastic barrel caps, (you can shoot through them) that keeps the bore almost clean, if you can't find one of those caps, just use black duct tape, the mag well is just a magnet for crap to get under the bolt and into the bolt lugs, not much you can do there, but if you're out of the wire alot it really does stay cleaner than strolling around the FOB.
Don't forget to check your mags. They get sand and dust build up, too. Also, the first bit of ammo my squad was issued had several rounds with dents and corrosion. I was even issued a mag with a dent that stopped the follower after the 5th round. Its always better to find those things before you leave the wire.
I had my squad wipe out the upper and the bolt each time before we loaded up to leave. We just used a dry cloth to wipe off the dry dust and sand, and then lightly oiled the bolt (AND SHUT THE DUST COVER).
Don't stress too badly, there are many ways to keep the tools working, but absolutely ask the guys doing "cordon and search" when you get there. They should've seen several things that work (and some that don't).
Let us know if there's anything lacking at the PX when you get there!
I had my squad wipe out the upper and the bolt each time before we loaded up to leave. We just used a dry cloth to wipe off the dry dust and sand, and then lightly oiled the bolt (AND SHUT THE DUST COVER).
Don't stress too badly, there are many ways to keep the tools working, but absolutely ask the guys doing "cordon and search" when you get there. They should've seen several things that work (and some that don't).
Let us know if there's anything lacking at the PX when you get there!
Flak_Jakett
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Okay I spent about 14 months in Sadaam's ash tray. Here's the scoop.
You should inspect your weapon at the mimimum of once per day. I suggest cleaning and inspecting your weapon 2-3 times per day. More if the wind and sand is kicking up. At the end of your shift before you hit the rack inspect the weapon clean it and apply a light layer of lube to keep it while you sleep. When you wake up wipe off the oil and apply dry powdered graphite. Again PMCS, functions check, and clean.
What kind of extreme dust and sand conditions can you create in a facility in Aberdeen? I picture of a bunch of dorito munching pogues in full tactical gear tossing sand into a fan while their buddy is shooting and missing his qual target at 25 meters.
The numbers are stunning in the test though. With light lube about 1 out of every 6 shots malfunctioned. That ate up like a soup sandwich. With heavy lube the thing still experienced stoppage at an around 1% of the time. That's about .99% too many. I'd say stick with the powder graphite. I think the stoppage rate I personally experienced with powder graphite was... I can't remember the exact amount, but I only had 2 stoppages, both had to do with crappy old dinged up magazines, which was the leading cause of malfunctions in my platoon. They should test the graphite next.
Alot of those guys yell "Don't forget to put a light lube on your weapons!!!!"
Guess those pogues in Aberdeen proved them wrong though eh?
Of course if you listen to me when I was yelling it went something like this...
"Why do I smell CLP on your weapon?!?!?! Your as smart as a box of rocks!!! Use your brain for something besides keeping your ears apart and reclean and administer graphite to that rifle!!! When Al attacks I don't want my wife to get all of my life insurance because you couldn't kill im before he killed me so get it into shape before I make you probe a mine field pollock style!"
As for tricks for cleaning your weapon. Cotton swabs, Q-tips, pipe cleaners, bore patches toothbrushes, good ol' fashioned elbow grease, and if your anal like me about a clean weapon some dental picks.
+1 for the air compressor. The back of Hemmets have a compressor perfect for use in weapon cleaning.
You should inspect your weapon at the mimimum of once per day. I suggest cleaning and inspecting your weapon 2-3 times per day. More if the wind and sand is kicking up. At the end of your shift before you hit the rack inspect the weapon clean it and apply a light layer of lube to keep it while you sleep. When you wake up wipe off the oil and apply dry powdered graphite. Again PMCS, functions check, and clean.
What kind of extreme dust and sand conditions can you create in a facility in Aberdeen? I picture of a bunch of dorito munching pogues in full tactical gear tossing sand into a fan while their buddy is shooting and missing his qual target at 25 meters.
The numbers are stunning in the test though. With light lube about 1 out of every 6 shots malfunctioned. That ate up like a soup sandwich. With heavy lube the thing still experienced stoppage at an around 1% of the time. That's about .99% too many. I'd say stick with the powder graphite. I think the stoppage rate I personally experienced with powder graphite was... I can't remember the exact amount, but I only had 2 stoppages, both had to do with crappy old dinged up magazines, which was the leading cause of malfunctions in my platoon. They should test the graphite next.
Alot of those guys yell "Don't forget to put a light lube on your weapons!!!!"
Guess those pogues in Aberdeen proved them wrong though eh?
Of course if you listen to me when I was yelling it went something like this...
"Why do I smell CLP on your weapon?!?!?! Your as smart as a box of rocks!!! Use your brain for something besides keeping your ears apart and reclean and administer graphite to that rifle!!! When Al attacks I don't want my wife to get all of my life insurance because you couldn't kill im before he killed me so get it into shape before I make you probe a mine field pollock style!"
As for tricks for cleaning your weapon. Cotton swabs, Q-tips, pipe cleaners, bore patches toothbrushes, good ol' fashioned elbow grease, and if your anal like me about a clean weapon some dental picks.
+1 for the air compressor. The back of Hemmets have a compressor perfect for use in weapon cleaning.
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Harley Quinn
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This makes some sense to me for sure. Bottom line clean it at the end of the day and lube it up again.
Works for farm equipment.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/07/army_carbine_lubrication_070716/
DC3-CVN-72
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-crossing_ceremony
"Salty/old salt" is another term some of us can say, golden or regular many miles on the sea and lots of countries, paid for by my favorite uncle That time we were headed for Australia They mention the event as being brutal, yes you could say that
Yes, Marines, got special treatment
I truly am lucky, I hope the PO is as fortunate.
When in Red sea and Suez canal, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea
it was hot and not real friendly, and we were at sea, that location he is headed for is one that will test him for sure.
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Works for farm equipment.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/07/army_carbine_lubrication_070716/
DC3-CVN-72
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-crossing_ceremony
"Salty/old salt" is another term some of us can say, golden or regular many miles on the sea and lots of countries, paid for by my favorite uncle That time we were headed for Australia They mention the event as being brutal, yes you could say that Yes, Marines, got special treatment I truly am lucky, I hope the PO is as fortunate.
When in Red sea and Suez canal, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea
it was hot and not real friendly, and we were at sea, that location he is headed for is one that will test him for sure.
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Keep it wet, keep it wiped free of dust. Check both at least one time daily.
God bless.
God bless.
possum
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i have been there once and curently on rxr from my second deployment, i use militec, and it does great, i keep my weapon clean and well lubed and i have not had a problem yet. depending on where i am working depends how much lube i use. i am an nco and i guarantee you that if you were one of my soliders i would square you away and teach you the tricks. i am here as much as possible if you need help in the future, or now in any area, let me know.
MikePGS
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Take care of yourself over there aarq, and thank you for your service.
bogie
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I'm guessing they probably threw a lot more at them than you'll ever see, Private... I'm picturing more of a sandblast chamber... Then again, I have friends who are military contractors, and I know what the gear goes through before it hits the sandbox. I've never seen Doritos involved, and I'd wager that far over 99.99% of the individuals involved are +highly+ into a zero defect mode, because they know where the things are going.
At any rate, our service member needs to pay attention to his NCOs (especially if he are an ossifer), and do what they tell him. Because that'll more than likely be what works.
He sure as **** don't need to be getting his SOP off the internet.
Flak Jacket: Saddam's ashtray is good. Seemed more like Saddam's Outhouse to me.
I never had a problem with every other day inspect and cleaning, that was with three patols a day. Although it was in the Adhamia district in Baghdad. We never ran into boobytrapped weapons, they were generally still warm from the mofos shooting at us. A Seal instructor training new guys at Ft. Chaffee did show us how they boobytraped AKs, two rounds in the gas tube and when you release the charging handle the first round strikes the primer of the second.
I never had a problem with every other day inspect and cleaning, that was with three patols a day. Although it was in the Adhamia district in Baghdad. We never ran into boobytrapped weapons, they were generally still warm from the mofos shooting at us. A Seal instructor training new guys at Ft. Chaffee did show us how they boobytraped AKs, two rounds in the gas tube and when you release the charging handle the first round strikes the primer of the second.
HeXeD775
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God Luck, God bless you & Thank You! please be back home safe.
wheelgunslinger
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Try a pantyhose leg.
This worked well back in 91 on the bolt rifles and brass pukers.
But, maybe that's old school and irrelevant now.
Whatever the case, good luck, shoot straight, and be always ready.
This worked well back in 91 on the bolt rifles and brass pukers.
But, maybe that's old school and irrelevant now.
Whatever the case, good luck, shoot straight, and be always ready.
Black Knight
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I am a DA Civilian Police Officer and my facility sends soldiers over quite often. Being one of the armorers for the police force I clean and lube most if not all our weapons. We also issue M9's (Beretta 92FS) to those from our facility going overseas. We use Militec-1. It is soybean based, does not attract dirt or sand. It will eventually saturate the pores in the metal and will need to be lubed less. You should be able to get through normal military supply channels. If not check out their web site and they will do their best to get it to you. We have had nothing but great results with it and we have been using it since 2004.
Listen to your team leader. Do what he says when it comes to weapons maintenance. He knows everything and will more than likely save your life more than once. Mine did.
Barber's brushes with a few drops of CLP work wonders on keeping the dusties off and lubing the insides. Too much CLP is just as bad as none at all in a dusty environment.
Barber's brushes with a few drops of CLP work wonders on keeping the dusties off and lubing the insides. Too much CLP is just as bad as none at all in a dusty environment.
Flak_Jakett
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Actually that's SSG. Call me a private and I'll ask you to drop and give me 5 million.
I wonder how much money you would have lost when the stryker came out?
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