Jonah71
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I know the feeling. My G 23 will last a lot longer than I will. For that matter, so will the old Merwin Hulbert.
Old Glocks
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JohnBT
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What is an old Glock?
I was 32 when they sold the first one.
I was 32 when they sold the first one.
X-Rap
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I don't know what the polymer compound is in the Glock frames but I know Phillips make a HDPE pipe that I have seen lay in the sun/weather for years and have all kinds of nasty crap pumped through it and it holds up very well.
Is there any actual info on the longevity of the polymer guns?
I know its apples and oranges with polymer and metal and what one can take the other can't plus the polymer guns are both and from what some have posted it seems Glock will take the old ones out of the system if given the chance.
It would be interesting to see what the official Glock word is. But then the round count on an old worn out Glock frame still probably exceeds a steel frame shooting loose.
Is there any actual info on the longevity of the polymer guns?
I know its apples and oranges with polymer and metal and what one can take the other can't plus the polymer guns are both and from what some have posted it seems Glock will take the old ones out of the system if given the chance.
It would be interesting to see what the official Glock word is. But then the round count on an old worn out Glock frame still probably exceeds a steel frame shooting loose.
dprice3844444
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got a g17 and g26 from 97,holding up fine 17 has bout 500 through it,26 none yet
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My 3rd gen G21 is holding up fine. I'm the second owner after a police officer. Still functions like new.
I think the degradation of the Glock polymer might be a moot point. For one thing, I didn't purchase a Glock as an investment grade firearm. I bought it to shoot a bunch RIGHT NOW. Will the frame turn to brittle dust in 40 years? Maybe. I'll be 71 years old then (God willing) and will not only have many, many more guns than I do now but will have plenty of "nicer" heirlooms to pass on to any children/grandchildren who might want them. I honestly worry more about stretching the aluminum frames on some of my guns more than the polymer breaking down on others.
That said, I think short of abusing the frame they are going to last and last and last. The worst thing you can do to polymer is leave it to the elements. Lots and lots of direct sunlight, freeze/thaw, etc. In 20 years, a Glock left out in the wilds may have some real issues with the frame. Conversely, I would ask how functional a steel and wood pistol would be under the same circumstances. I wouldn't also leave my Glock on the dashboard of my car every day in direct sun either...of course, I would never do anything so stupid with ANY firearm. In my hand shooting, on my hip covered by my shirt, or holstered in my safe. These are the only three acceptable places for my Glock to ever be barring getting tuned up.
I find Glocks incredibly unsexy. I simply adore the lines of a classic steel pistol, so I wouldn't even call myself a Glock Fanboy. I'm just of the mindset that if I take care of my G21 even marginally, it'll probably be shooting just fine 70-100 years from now. Hell, I might even need to replace the springs by then
I think the degradation of the Glock polymer might be a moot point. For one thing, I didn't purchase a Glock as an investment grade firearm. I bought it to shoot a bunch RIGHT NOW. Will the frame turn to brittle dust in 40 years? Maybe. I'll be 71 years old then (God willing) and will not only have many, many more guns than I do now but will have plenty of "nicer" heirlooms to pass on to any children/grandchildren who might want them. I honestly worry more about stretching the aluminum frames on some of my guns more than the polymer breaking down on others.
That said, I think short of abusing the frame they are going to last and last and last. The worst thing you can do to polymer is leave it to the elements. Lots and lots of direct sunlight, freeze/thaw, etc. In 20 years, a Glock left out in the wilds may have some real issues with the frame. Conversely, I would ask how functional a steel and wood pistol would be under the same circumstances. I wouldn't also leave my Glock on the dashboard of my car every day in direct sun either...of course, I would never do anything so stupid with ANY firearm. In my hand shooting, on my hip covered by my shirt, or holstered in my safe. These are the only three acceptable places for my Glock to ever be barring getting tuned up.
I find Glocks incredibly unsexy. I simply adore the lines of a classic steel pistol, so I wouldn't even call myself a Glock Fanboy. I'm just of the mindset that if I take care of my G21 even marginally, it'll probably be shooting just fine 70-100 years from now. Hell, I might even need to replace the springs by then
Okiegunner
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Used Glock
Hello guys,
A question if you don't mind. Kiesler Police Supply has LEO trade in G17 Gen 3, 3 mags, and holster for $359. Summit Gun Broker has Swiss made LEO trade Sig 2340, 2 mags for, for $335.
Now I realize this a Glock thread so there may be a little bias, but as this is a used Glock (and Sig), I thought my question might be pertinant.
Which would you guys consider the better pistol to hold up over time? And with the prices being so close, which the better buy?
Thanks
Hello guys,
A question if you don't mind. Kiesler Police Supply has LEO trade in G17 Gen 3, 3 mags, and holster for $359. Summit Gun Broker has Swiss made LEO trade Sig 2340, 2 mags for, for $335.
Now I realize this a Glock thread so there may be a little bias, but as this is a used Glock (and Sig), I thought my question might be pertinant.
Which would you guys consider the better pistol to hold up over time? And with the prices being so close, which the better buy?
Thanks
mgmorden
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Okie: Do note that the Glock 17 you're looking at is 9mm and the SIG is .40S&W. That may have some bearing on your decision.
Personally, for polymer guns, I kinda like the Glock more. Its striker fired vs DA/SA on the SIG. I also have no qualms about Glock in 9mm which works great (my Glock is a Glock 17 as well - Gen 2 though). Between the two, I'd probably opt for the Glock 17, though either is probably gonna stand up fine over time.
If the comparison was for the Glock 22 vs the the SIG though, I'd probably opt for the SIG. Glock chambers aren't fully supported (an issue that becomes of more concern on .40S&W) and so I prefer most other brands to the Glock in .40S&W.
Personally, for polymer guns, I kinda like the Glock more. Its striker fired vs DA/SA on the SIG. I also have no qualms about Glock in 9mm which works great (my Glock is a Glock 17 as well - Gen 2 though). Between the two, I'd probably opt for the Glock 17, though either is probably gonna stand up fine over time.
If the comparison was for the Glock 22 vs the the SIG though, I'd probably opt for the SIG. Glock chambers aren't fully supported (an issue that becomes of more concern on .40S&W) and so I prefer most other brands to the Glock in .40S&W.
Pietro Beretta
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W.E.G.
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This boils down to repeatedly-asked "What is that plastic?" question:
See http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=1433730&postcount=17
"Glock uses an out-sourced proprietary hybrid polymer mix with a base of Nylon 6..."
Nearly indestructible in ordinary use.
See http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=1433730&postcount=17
"Glock uses an out-sourced proprietary hybrid polymer mix with a base of Nylon 6..."
Nearly indestructible in ordinary use.
JohnBT
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Nearly indestructible in ordinary use? Okay. So they aren't indestructible. That settles that. Thanks.
I doubt I'll be around in 70 years to see the first one turn 100.
I doubt I'll be around in 70 years to see the first one turn 100.
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lobo9er
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good stuff, pictures of old glocks are welcomed too! dusty knocked around ones if ya got'em
mgmorden
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Jabbler: I LOVE that gun. I have a thing for department marked guns. Seen several marked for various PD's, but I've never seen one marked for any state DNR.
Did you purchase it as a surplus unit from any particular vendor?
Did you purchase it as a surplus unit from any particular vendor?
Jabbler: I LOVE that gun. I have a thing for department marked guns. Seen several marked for various PD's, but I've never seen one marked for any state DNR.
Did you purchase it as a surplus unit from any particular vendor?
I picked it up from Adventure Outdoors in Georgia a few weeks ago. $299
el Godfather
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G19 user since 1991. No issues whatsoever.
Approximately over 25-30k rounds through it.
Approximately over 25-30k rounds through it.
riceboy72
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Man, I bought my Glock 19 brand new in 1994, but compared to some of the Glocks discussed here, I feel like I'm behind the curve! The serial number starts with AVG, by the way. It's been a champ for the last 18 years, too. One of those "I'll never get rid of it" guns, although I don't shoot or carry it much anymore.
sgtstryker
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My Gen 2 Model 17 is still kicking. Not sure of the round count, but it's alot. I always shoot it when I go to the range. I've even traded it and got it back, thank goodness. I spruced it up last year with an adjustable rear sight. It will be around for the duration. I carry a G23 now, but the 17 is alot more fun to shoot.
I have a buddy that owns a training school. He shoots at least 1000 rounds per month out of his G17 and have for 10+ years. He has never had a misfire.
sigma 40ve
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Just took my gen1 G17 out today for a day at the range. Bought it last year at a pawn shop. It's seen use, how much, who knows. I had it rebuilt by the Glock armorer at the GSSF match in Marietta Ohio this past summer. I got some bad news then. It had a barrel bulge just past the chamber. Seems someone before me had a squib and fired one right after. Nothing else was wrong on the pistol. Glock even offered to replace the barrel for free. I didn't take them up on it because I would have had to ship the old barrel back to them in exchange. I thought if I ever made a wall hanger out of the gen1 I want an all #'s matching pistol. I found a used cheap barrel from a gen3 G17 that I put in it. This year I plan on giving the gen1 quite a bit of use. Plan on shooting several indoor and outdoor GSSF matches with it. Outdoors will be more than one class per match with it.
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lobo9er
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thought I would revisit this one. Anymore OLD GLOCKS knocking around, maybe GEN 1's and 2's with dings and dents dust and debris?
newglockguy
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I have a Gen 2 G23 that my dad bought in 1994. It has a bit of wear on the slide but by no means anything major. I have no idea how often he shot it but I've put it through its paces and it still runs like a dream. I think I might have to replace the barrel soon though.
Certaindeaf
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"Old" Glock?. lolzers
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