Remington1911
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Older manuals do come in handy for obsolete calibers. 22 Savage HP comes to mind.
Last used mine on 30 Remington.
Older manuals do come in handy for obsolete calibers. 22 Savage HP comes to mind.
I've never seen an oal listed in my 45th. I guess they thought you'd use a plunk test or seat at the crimp grove.... semiautomatics not being nearly as popular back then.Speaking of the 45th........."we've come a long way baby"......to get where we are today.
What happened to Red Dot and why no Herco in either one?
BTW, then and now, different bullet and different OAL. So comparing the amount of Unique or Bullseye is apples and oranges. Not the same.
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So, is the orange manual where we are today? Because I've been loading 9mm 124gr LRN @ 1.10 with 5gr Unique for about 30 years. Probably tens of thousands through various guns. Runs around 1040fps out of my S&W Shield and I consider it a reduced load. I now shoot almost everything in coated and it's still the same load, it fills the case 100% and it's easy to remember. Fantastic load - one of my best in 9mm. I just recently ran a ladder with 124gr FMJ and Unique and my results were damn near identical to the blue manual - this was just a couple months ago.Speaking of the 45th........."we've come a long way baby"......to get where we are today.
What happened to Red Dot and why no Herco in either one?
BTW, then and now, different bullet and different OAL. So comparing the amount of Unique or Bullseye is apples and oranges. Not the same.
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The starting load of true blue of 8.8 grains with a 158 is plenty... it's very accurate and the only start load ever, that I didn't keep going. It acts just like 7.0 grains of Unique. I found exactly the opposite with blue dot...I keep all my old reloading data manuals. They are great for some reference information.
I prefer to use current data. For example, I like True Blue for 9x19. Over the years that I have used the powder, Western Powders has reduced the max charge for 115 grain bullets.
But I’ll use old data at times, conservatively, if the current powder/bullet combination is not listed in the current manuals.
Just remember when it comes to reloading, “You all be careful out there.”
The words "reloading data" and "contradictory" should never be used in the same sentence.One thing I have learned about reading reloading manuals is none of the data. contradictory as it may be, is going to blow up my gun. And yes it does get a little confusing sometimes.