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Hello to All,
Wondering if anyone can assist me in determining the value of a revolver for my in-laws. It's a S & W Model 10-7, 4" barrel and factory nickle. Purchased new and fired less than 1/4 of a box of ammo. Serial # is a c16 over 06XXX. Thanks for any help.
 
According to the 23rd edition of gun values, in 100% condition, its value is $365 + another $12 for the nickel finish. Now, there could be something I am missing here but that's what the book says.

Greg
 
Thanx

Thanks for the assistance. Can you or anyone give a date of manufacture. My in-laws don't remember when it was purchased. The bullet lead has turned white and flakey on the cartridges that they bought with it.
Thanks again TarpleyG
 
Re-Check S/N

Hello P95Carry,
Just checked it. It has a C16 over 06XXX. The C16 is in larger numbers than the rest of the S/N. On the frame it is stamped MOD 10-7. It's factory nickle with case-hardened trigger, hammer and blued ejector/extractor star :confused: .
Hope that helps. Also thanks for the assistance !
 
Ok thx for checking - well that still leaves me puzzled - because of trying to match model with apparent S/N.

MOD 10-7 seems clear enough and that points to 1977. But as for finding a C prefix S/N anything like as late as that - there is the puzzle because 1968 was beginning of 'D' prefix.

Well - let us hope Jim Keenan or Old Fuff can drop by on this - may be I am overlooking something simple but it has me stimied right now. :uhoh:
 
Something to ponder?!?

Appreciate your time. Maybe something interesting. The pistol has the tapered barrel, pinned & marked 38 S&W Special Ctg. and is square butt grip, has underbarrel lug for the ejector rod. Hope this helps.
Again thanks ! ! !
 
I am still perplexed but - 1982 saw the pinned barrel finished with ... and square butt goes back a long ways. There were two barrel options for ages it seems - the heavy and the tapered - I imagine an option for when being ordered, choose one or the other. Approx 1995 square butt and tapered barrel discontinued.

I still hope Fuff or Jim (or anyone?) can assist on this enigma.
 
Howdy P95Carry,
Let it not be said that you did not try! Maybe one of the members you've mentioned or another can help. Great forum. Wish me luck and tanxxxx.

rhtwist
 
I contacted ''Guru Fuff'' on this and here is his response - thx Fuff :)

The serial number is obviously not consistant with the model 10-7, but S&W made a practice of serial numbering frames before they were built into guns. If someone isn't reading the number incorretly I'd say that S&W had discovered an inventory of previously made frames and used them up latter.

The -7 modification involved changes to the yoke and cylinder, not the frame - so from a manufacturing perspective using the older frames would not cause problems.

The only way to know for sure would be to ask Roy Jinks and pay the very reasonable $30.00 fee for a record check and factory letter. If the letter confirmed my speculation, it together with the gun would probably increase the gun's value enough to pay for the letter and then some. Even though the revolver is a common one, collectors are always looking for something different.
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Back again....

I have been using the numbers inside the yoke :uhoh:. Under the grip are the numbers C19, a seperate C16, an "N" overstruck on a C23, the 06XXX and on the otherside a 45XX and on the bottom of the grip frame 8D40XXX. This I hope will clear up my earlier "misinformation".
BTW you guys are good!
 
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Cool..

Thanks P95Carry, Brian Williams and Master Blaster. The best I could get is that it was believed to have been purchased in ?1982???? Guess it fits. Sorry about bad info!
What differences were there in the 10-8???
 
Will now, the correct number makes all the difference ...

The 10-8 modifications were the same ones as the -7, but made on the heavy barreled version. The "pencil barreled" -7's were made up until 1981 or 82.
 
Not always easy every time!

10-8 --- 1977, gas ring change on heavy barrel. 1981, Logo moved from sideplate to left side of frame to facilitate sideplate engraving. 1982 - eliminate pinned barrel and start three letter S/N prefix.

See where logo is - this is seeming more and more a 1981 piece. Thx Fuff for your extra input again.
 
Understand that although the logo location was changed in 1981 this doesn't mean that all of the older sideplates had been used up.

Again, the only way to know for sure when the revolver actually left Smith & Wesson (regardless of the markings and serial number) is to obtain a letter from Roy Jinks. He will go back and check out the original shipping records, get the information, and provide it in an official letter on S&W letterhead.

In this case a purchase date of 1982 is quite probable.

While the exact dates when a particular engineering change (denoted by a dash number) was started and ended is generally known, there are sometimes individual exceptions, as "on-hand" parts and frames were used up. On several occasions I have examined revolvers that had serial numbers lower then the "recognized" starting number when that number was a continuation of an existing series.
 
Yes it does!

I quess the correct # does make a difference. This revolver has the logo on the frame under the cylinder release. It really is a nice firearm. I have been a Colt Only kind of guy except for a Model 39 back in the 70's. Wouldn't mind a Model 36, 25-5 or that 21.
So the C16, C19, C23 and other numbers refer to what? If any care to further indulge my curiosity.
You can definately learn something new everyday. Thanks Fellas!
 
So was I close with my value assessment guys??? I have been trying to hone this little skill a bit.

Greg
 
rhtwist:

Those other letters and/or numbers are manufacturing/inspector's marks that denote that certain processes were performed and/or inspected. The yoke and frame are also marked with individual identification so that the right parts will come together during final assembly.

TarpleyG:

In most places your values would be high. The average value of the revolver would be closer to $225.00 - $250.00, and perhaps $275.00 - $300.00 if it was NIB with all of the accessories.

For a check on values follow the on-line auctions and see what guns of a particular kind really sell for. Also watch the prices in local gun stores and pawn shops. Remember, what you want to know is what the guns sell for, not what the asking price is. There can be a big difference.
 
Mille Graci (Italian for thanks abunch) Old Fuff. Alot of knowledge and help in this forum.

rhtwist
 
Since there are some frame differences between the tapered barrel and heavy barrel models it is quite possible that S&W had some older frames remaining in inventory since the heavy barrel was the better seller at that time.

This would account for a 10-7 frame being assembled and numbered after the 10-8 had already started.

Sort of like S&W using leftover 25-3 frames for the original Lew Horton 3" .45acp revolvers.

S&W is noted for using up all of the available parts they can.

I doubt that the manufacturing date would add much to the value of this gun but it does add imensly to the coolness.
A factory letter would make it even cooler.
 
If

If I had the cashola I think I might acquire the aforementioned firearm for my personal use. Since not :cuss: where would be the best place to start to sell for a good price. TIA

rhtwist
 
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