Once-fired 9MM that is really once-fired

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I purchase some “once-fired” brass from a company. Price was good.

Many cases seem considerably more experienced than fired once.

Have you found companies that sells brass driven by a little old lady who only hit the range on Sunday?
 
Look for once fired unprocessed brass, this gives you the best chance of it being once fired since anything with a silver colored primer probably isn't once fired. Not sure were the buying cleaned and processed brass came from but it gives unscrupulous sellers the perfect opportunity to sell anything while calling it once fired, throw in wet tumbling and the seller has no idea.

Last guy trying to sell me processed once fired brass didn't like it when I told him I would only pay half the price of unprocessed brass for his stuff because he couldn't prove it was once fired. Pistol brass dosen't matter to much but for rifle brass I'll purchase new brass before I buy processed once fired brass.
 
People pay for 9mm brass? I'm at the point where I clear out any 9mm or .40 brass from my area before I start shooting. I've got enough and don't need anymore.

I'd think most companies would have an easier time finding once fired brass vs reloaded brass. Most brass laying around at the range is once fired. Any reloader is going to pick up their brass.
 
I sell some of my pick-up brass. I have no idea how many times it's been fired. I sell it as range brass, not once fired and it's cheap.

About the only truly once fired on the market is military surplus. That's stuff is expensive because it's sold at auction and people who re-manufacture ammo pay high prices for it.
 
reddog81 said:
People pay for 9mm brass? I'm at the point where I clear out any 9mm or .40 brass from my area before I start shooting. I've got enough and don't need anymore.

I'd think most companies would have an easier time finding once fired brass vs reloaded brass. Most brass laying around at the range is once fired. Any reloader is going to pick up their brass.
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You are ignoring the obvious. It isn’t about reloaders. And even if it were, no one can be sure to pick up all their brass at a busy indoor range. And no one can be sure that what they pick up was theirs anyway. No, what is lying around at ranges is on average something more than once fired. And to make it worse (for you, It doesn’t matter to me), more and more of the rounds fired at ranges that are not picked up are commercially reloaded. Companies like Freedom Munitions are growing like wildfire and dumping huge amounts of remanufactured ammo into the market. So what you pick up must be 1+ time fired. Who knows how big the + is.
 
reddog81 said:
People pay for 9mm brass? I'm at the point where I clear out any 9mm or .40 brass from my area before I start shooting. I've got enough and don't need anymore.

I'd think most companies would have an easier time finding once fired brass vs reloaded brass. Most brass laying around at the range is once fired. Any reloader is going to pick up their brass.
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Not all of us shoot at ranges or places where the brass is easily retrieved.
 
rpenmanparker said:
... No, what is lying around at ranges is on average something more than once fired. And to make it worse (for you, It doesn’t matter to me), more and more of the rounds fired at ranges that are not picked up are commercially reloaded. ...
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I've picked up 1,000's of 9mm cases at indoor and outdoor ranges and I'd be willing to bet 95% were either once or twice fired. If you sort your brass it's fairly easy to spot brass that's been shot a bunch. Numerous extractor marks, scratch marks from reloading dies and an interior dirtier than normal are all pretty easy to spot. Some people don't like to sort brass but I consider necessary since some brass is crimped, some brass has a step inside the case and sometimes a .380 can hide in a pile.

Additionally, I've shot 9mm cases that have been loaded more than a dozen times without any issue.
 
sbwaters said:
Samples from the batch.

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All the S&B 9mm I have seen has a red sealant around the primer. Even after I have tumbled and reloaded them a couple times there are still signs of the red sealer. I don't see any on that one. The ones with the nickel plated primers have been reloaded too. Fortunately 9mm brass lasts forever, I have some that's been loaded at least a dozen times if not more
 
snakeye said:
“once-fired” is term that is loosely used with brass sellers...unless you know for a fact where someone gets their brass don't count on it.
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Snakeye has it absolutely correct.

Unless you know exactly where it came from, don't count on it being "once-fired"
 
reddog81 said:
I've picked up 1,000's of 9mm cases at indoor and outdoor ranges and I'd be willing to bet 95% were either once or twice fired. If you sort your brass it's fairly easy to spot brass that's been shot a bunch. Numerous extractor marks, scratch marks from reloading dies and an interior dirtier than normal are all pretty easy to spot. Some people don't like to sort brass but I consider necessary since some brass is crimped, some brass has a step inside the case and sometimes a .380 can hide in a pile.

Additionally, I've shot 9mm cases that have been loaded more than a dozen times without any issue.
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Well it is that once OR TWICE that makes the difference if OP is asking only for once fired. Like I said, this is all moot for me, but the flood of commercially reliaded stuff recently could make a difference to some folks.
 
rpenmanparker said:
You are ignoring the obvious. It isn’t about reloaders. And even if it were, no one can be sure to pick up all their brass at a busy indoor range. And no one can be sure that what they pick up was theirs anyway. No, what is lying around at ranges is on average something more than once fired. And to make it worse (for you, It doesn’t matter to me), more and more of the rounds fired at ranges that are not picked up are commercially reloaded. Companies like Freedom Munitions are growing like wildfire and dumping huge amounts of remanufactured ammo into the market. So what you pick up must be 1+ time fired. Who knows how big the + is.
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Around here at the indoor range, almost everyone (except me) shoots factory and sweeps them up and throws them in the brass bucket that the range sells
 
Not here, old folks mostly, and they buy at Walmart or Gander Outdoors. At $8-$9/box for factory new, most don't bother with reloading or buying reloads
 
George P said:
Not here, old folks mostly, and they buy at Walmart or Gander Outdoors. At $8-$9/box for factory new, most don't bother with reloading or buying reloads
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Fair enough, but it is a growing market. And I don’t see $8 boxes here in Houston. More like $10. To get those kinds of prices I have to order reloads online.
 
rpenmanparker said:
Well it is that once OR TWICE that makes the difference if OP is asking only for once fired. Like I said, this is all moot for me, but the flood of commercially reliaded stuff recently could make a difference to some folks.
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It won't make any practical difference....
 
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