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One more follow up to "What say you?"

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by doubleh, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. doubleh

    doubleh Member

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    My wife went along on my range trip yesterday to shoot her Ez. This idea seems to be a bust. She can operate it OK but what little recoil it has is too much for her wrist. Five shots and she quit and that was wearing compression gloves and an elastic wrist brace. Said it really hurt. I understand about the wrist pain. Mine isn't in great shape either but as long as I leave the snappy recoilers alone I'm OK. It appears it's 22 LR for her or nothing. No matter, I can shoot the little thing and am actually pretty accurate with it.

    On a side note I've decided 380 brass has magical abilities. I haven't made up my mind but it can either grow feet instantly when touching the ground and run off or turn in 9mm. I haven't made up my mind which it is. I think I need a helper holding a bug net beside my 380 to catch the brass to keep from losing some of it. This happens every single time I shoot a 380 but not with other calibers.
     
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  2. SteadyD

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    You could try a revolver in 32 long.
     
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    Is this for CCW, plinking, or home defense?

    For fun or carry, sounds like she needs a .22. Maybe a .22 mag. Ive had .380s which were pretty snappy, so I totally get where she is coming from. My buddys .380 Bodyguard is downright painful. Heck, my daughter is proficient with her Walther PPS, but refuses to shoot my PP again- and its a .32!

    If for home defense, I think you may want to look at a 9mm carbine for her.

    Come to think about it, what about the Kel Tec PMR 30? Although not small, it should still fit in a medium sized purse, the slide grip extends all the way over the top of the gun, making it easy to grasp, and there is no likely need to worry about reloads with 30 rounds of .22 mag on tap.
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    My initial thought too
     
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    If you can find one somewhere to try, the 1911/380 from Browning might be an option. But given her intolerance for the EZ, I certainly wouldn't go buy one without trying it.
     
  7. Tallball

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    It would be a good thing to try. They feel about like a 22 to me. 380's can be kinda snappy.
     
  8. doubleh

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    Thanks for all the suggestions. She has one revolver and does not want another. I have a pile of 22 handguns including the SR22 mentioned for her to choose from so no need to buy another.
     
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  9. Coal Dragger

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    Not to be obtuse but are you both older or frail?

    Knowing that would help with any advice I could give.
     
  10. whughett

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    380’s are hard for me to pick out from 9’s when picking up brass at the range. I don’t try, separate it out at home and even then I find one once in a while i’ve Missed a 380 and left it in the 9mm box.
     
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    I take it you're not actually asking anything here, since you say she doesn't want another revolver, and you're pretty stocked up on rimfire autoloaders... just musing, right?
     
  12. zaitcev

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    This may be a time to get her a rifle or PCC. Note that they still have a recoil, but it will not go into wrists. Be careful about it though. My wife cannot shoot a stocked gun, says her shoulder hurts when trying to take a stance (not at recoil, mind -- just from the necessary posture).

    A Hail Mary pass for the centerfire might be a large gun in .22 TCM.

    The PMR-30 may be a great idea.

    The full-size 1911-380 is the softest-shooting .380 that I have in my collection, but it's not any better than the 380 EZ. You can safely pass on that.

    One last thing: it may sound counter-intuitive, but people with wrist pain exist who can shoot a larger gun 9mm easier than a smaller one in .380. I know this sounds absurd, but trust me, it happens. I particular I'm talking about a Beretta 92 versus my 1911-380.
     
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  13. Tallball

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    I misremember the name of the little tip-up Berretta 32acp. Bobcat or something? You don't have to rack the slide, anyway.

    The little Kel-tec P32 is extremely easy to rack and has a locking breech, so the recoil is soft.

    Just throwing ideas out there...
     
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  14. Eddietruett

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    Have you thought about a .38 revolver and just loading up some light loads for her to shoot. A lightweight wadcutter around 100-125gr loaded light would make a better defense round than a 22 and would probably less recoil than the 380. Also grips selection would be larger and sometimes the right grips can reduce "felt" recoil a lot. My girlfriend normally shoots a 3" Model 65 with +P .38 ammo but she also keeps a model 60 chiefs special by the bed and sometimes in her car. She hated the model 60. Said it had too much recoil and I'm sure it did compared to the K frame with a 3" barrel but I found a set of rubber grips that I think were made by Sile to go on the 60 that are sort of soft and fit her hand better and now she is very comfortable with the smaller gun.
     
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    You are right that I was asking nothing. I was just passing along the information that the Ez isn't the answer to everyone's weakness problems and then answering the posts suggesting other solutions. Her hand and wrist problems are what they are and she's stuck with them.
     
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    22 Autos come in a variety of sizes and price ranges. If she likes to shoot, could be the answer Got any buddies with 22’s to try out. Some pay ranges also rent out pistols for range sessions.
     
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    My 85yo mother shoots a S&W 64 loaded with hbwc loaded backwards to cowboy load specs, at 10yrds she stays on a paper plate single action, I'm happy, she can't rack the slide on a semi so a revolver was our choice.
     
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    Thanks, but read post #8. "I have a pile of 22-----. That covers large and rather heavy to small and light.
     
  19. whughett

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    Right, missed that.......
     
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    doubleh

    Don't know if you have one of these but an all steel Beretta Model 70S (weighs around 23 oz.), has to be one of the most softest shooting .22s out there. Just the right weight and size, extremely reliable, and surprisingly accurate with just about any ammo.

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    If personal protection is the goal, I imagine a can of pepper spray has very little recoil.
     
  22. Trey Veston

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    For home defense, the Extar EP9 is the answer...

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    $450. My girlfriend LOVES mine. Nearly no recoil,and with a red dot, she can hit anything she wants to.

    If it's for portable protection, then one of your .22s should be fine. I'm about 20 years from having to worry about the issues your missus is facing, but I sympathize with her.
     
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  23. Theohazard

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    What grip and stance is she using? A thumbs-forward grip is the best way to shoot most semi-auto pistols, including the 380 EZ. It helps control recoil a lot better than stances that rely on the dominate hand to provide most of the grip on the gun. And when combined with an isosceles stance, much of the recoil will be transferred away from the wrists and through the arms and into the body, making the gun — and wrists — move a lot less than with older-style grip and stance techniques.
     
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    I think you're right about .22 being your best option. Other than .25ACP, I don't think there is a centerfire pistol with less recoil than the EZ. Of course, she got off 5 rounds. When it really matters, she's not going to be thinking about the pain in her wrist.
     
  25. Oldschool shooter

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    Try a Walther PPKs in 22 caliber. Tame as can be and it is not a revolver, which it sound like is out of the question. Good luck!
     
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