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Two weeks after I bought mine...
I wear it as my dress pistol, when a Dan Wesson is just too pretty.
One of those big milestones in a new gun owners life
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Yup.
Two weeks after I bought mine...
I wear it as my dress pistol, when a Dan Wesson is just too pretty.
My first carry gun was a 4" barreled 357 Smith. I carried it in a shoulder holster.
I was helping a friend remodel section 8 houses in North Tulsa at the time. A month in, we had to stop at the bank a he was shocked when I slipped it out to lock in the tool box.
I was helping a friend remodel section 8 houses in North Tulsa at the time. A month in, we had to stop at the bank a he was shocked when I slipped it out to lock in the tool box.
Corpral_Agarn
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Good on you, OP! Congrats.
I am of the strong opinion that law abiding citizens should not need the permission of the .gov to carry their firearms, but I too jump through the hoops until we can get that changed.
I started carrying 10 years ago.
The only pistol I had at the time was a Sig P226 with a stainless steel frame. Thing weighed 42oz unloaded.
I carried it in 357 Sig for probably 2 years before I decided that the gun was simply too heavy.
I bought a used P239 because I wanted the same manual of arms and I've been carrying that ever since.
My first CCW (it has undergone some... upgrades since I first got it LOL):
My current CCW:
I just reapplied for my CCW renewal and added this one to the list (the world is getting crazy):
I am of the strong opinion that law abiding citizens should not need the permission of the .gov to carry their firearms, but I too jump through the hoops until we can get that changed.
I started carrying 10 years ago.
The only pistol I had at the time was a Sig P226 with a stainless steel frame. Thing weighed 42oz unloaded.
I carried it in 357 Sig for probably 2 years before I decided that the gun was simply too heavy.
I bought a used P239 because I wanted the same manual of arms and I've been carrying that ever since.
My first CCW (it has undergone some... upgrades since I first got it LOL):
My current CCW:
I just reapplied for my CCW renewal and added this one to the list (the world is getting crazy):
.308 Norma
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I got my first Idaho CCW License a long time ago - even before I attended college at Idaho State University (about 25 miles from here) over 20 years ago. However, I didn’t go to college until after I retired, (yeah, I often get things backwards) so my having a CCW License before going to college is not as strange as it might sound. By the way, I’m 72.
At any rate, when it comes to concealed carry, I experienced a “milestone” just a few days ago, last Saturday in fact, when I legally carried on-campus at ISU. I couldn’t do that when I was a student there, even though like I said, I had an Idaho CCW License. It wasn’t until 2014 that concealed carry on Idaho’s college and university campuses was legalized for Idaho “Enhanced” CCW License holders.
That’s the primary reason why my wife and I went ahead and took the class in order to get our Idaho “Enhanced” CCW Licenses after letting our Idaho “Standard” CCW Licenses expire. We’re both ISU alumni, (as a matter of fact, so are both of our daughters) and it seemed like one or the other of us was ending up on the ISU campus at least once every month or so.
Saturday, I went to the book store in the ISU Student Union building to pick up a few things while we were in town. And for the first time, I had a gun under my shirt and an Idaho “Enhanced” CCW License in my wallet when I went there.
Truthfully, it felt kind of weird. I suppose it felt like that when I first started carrying concealed. But that was a long time ago and I really can’t remember. For that matter, at my age I might forget my gun when I go to town if putting it on wasn’t as routine as putting on my belt.
By the way, I’m 72.At any rate, when it comes to concealed carry, I experienced a “milestone” just a few days ago, last Saturday in fact, when I legally carried on-campus at ISU. I couldn’t do that when I was a student there, even though like I said, I had an Idaho CCW License. It wasn’t until 2014 that concealed carry on Idaho’s college and university campuses was legalized for Idaho “Enhanced” CCW License holders.
That’s the primary reason why my wife and I went ahead and took the class in order to get our Idaho “Enhanced” CCW Licenses after letting our Idaho “Standard” CCW Licenses expire. We’re both ISU alumni, (as a matter of fact, so are both of our daughters) and it seemed like one or the other of us was ending up on the ISU campus at least once every month or so.
Saturday, I went to the book store in the ISU Student Union building to pick up a few things while we were in town. And for the first time, I had a gun under my shirt and an Idaho “Enhanced” CCW License in my wallet when I went there.
Truthfully, it felt kind of weird. I suppose it felt like that when I first started carrying concealed. But that was a long time ago and I really can’t remember. For that matter, at my age I might forget my gun when I go to town if putting it on wasn’t as routine as putting on my belt.
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azrocks
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You have nothing to excuse yourself for, and are out nothing for not having been raised around firearms. That knife cuts both ways. Just because you're raised around firearms doesn't mean you're raised right around firearms. Everything in your posts underscores the fact you have a good head on your shoulders & are aware of potential hazards as well as how to mitigate them. Holster training with a loaded firearm when there's no compelling reason for the weapon to be loaded is not 'common sense'. Finally, anyone that says "x does not require training' has never had to do 'x' in extreme stress.
DustyGmt
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I first started carrying a taurus M85 .38spl revolver about 12 years ago, I remember a friend at the time thinking I was nuts for carrying a "loaded" firearm. Yeah loaded. Imagine that.
Then I started carrying a micro .380 LCP in the front pocket and loved the total concealment and absolute secure place to store my gun on my person and comfortably too. I have never been totally comfortable carrying medium frame guns on my person day in day out religiously, I can and sometimes do but as far as EDC I usually go with a micro in the pocket, big gun in the day bag I carry.
I am often paranoid about printing and am 6"2 205 lb and finally found Dickies Tall size heavy cotton T's that conceal very, very well when carrying in the hip IWB. If you cant find clothes and a mode of dress that cooperates with a gun forget about CC. I really like the uncle Mike's pocket wallet type holsters, $10 and you're good to go and I'm not cheap it just works. I never got too jazzed up about carrying a gun because I've always taken for granted the fact that I live in a constitutional carry state and when I'm on this forum I have an appreciation for what others tolerate and have to deal with......
Then I started carrying a micro .380 LCP in the front pocket and loved the total concealment and absolute secure place to store my gun on my person and comfortably too. I have never been totally comfortable carrying medium frame guns on my person day in day out religiously, I can and sometimes do but as far as EDC I usually go with a micro in the pocket, big gun in the day bag I carry.
I am often paranoid about printing and am 6"2 205 lb and finally found Dickies Tall size heavy cotton T's that conceal very, very well when carrying in the hip IWB. If you cant find clothes and a mode of dress that cooperates with a gun forget about CC. I really like the uncle Mike's pocket wallet type holsters, $10 and you're good to go and I'm not cheap it just works. I never got too jazzed up about carrying a gun because I've always taken for granted the fact that I live in a constitutional carry state and when I'm on this forum I have an appreciation for what others tolerate and have to deal with......
FFGColorado
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VAST majority of IWB(and a lot of AWB) holsters are with a clip, meaning really easy on and off...want to reholster? Take the farging holster OFF your belt and put the gun back into it, then holster back on your belt. I will NEVER understand why a 'civilian' needs any kind of 'quick reholstering', unless the competition calls for it, I guess.
'Glock leg'...yeegads..how about owning a striker fired pistol and not understanding how to put the thing back into a holster safely..
JJFitch
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In Ruger's infinite wisdom they included a "Glock leg switch" on their SR9 series. Rather than a decocker seen on DA/SA pistols there is a "thumb safety" located in the usual place! Since the base is a striker fired pistol the "safety" can be used during holstering and then set to "off" after holstering and left off during carry!
I have a couple of "paddle" holsters that may fit into the definition of "clip ons" but they're not easy to just whip on and off, at least not for me!
Smiles,
P.S. Ruger SR9, probably the most under rated S/F pistol!
azrocks
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I can think of countless reasons one might want to secure their handgun following a situation where it was necessary to draw one in the first place. Administering first aid is difficult with a .45 in your hand, and it's generally frowned upon to just throw your gat in the nearest schoolyard while you perform chest compressions. Police generally get a bit jumpy when they show up on a reported shooting scene & see some guy waving a gun around. If you're in a less-than-friendly locale, so do the locals. All these reasons and many more are why you'll likely never, ever hear a competent trainer teach people to disrobe in order to secure their firearm.
Then there's the matter of just how 'safe' it is to be fumbling around with a heavy loaded firearm in a holster as you try to attach it to your belt. Fairly certain more than one bathroom-stall shooting can be attributed to this ill-thought-out action plan.
Another crack at @Harriw , who as a self-described 'noob' appears to be have a better grasp of safety & training than many self-proclaimed gun guys. I'd go shooting w/ him any day of the week. Can't say the same about some of the 'experts' here.
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For me, the reason I need to reholster often is from practicing IWB draw with an unloaded handgun at home. So taking the holster out of my pants every single time to reholster is impractical. Fortunately, revolvers make it easy to “disable” the bobbed hammer with a thumb as the gun goes back in.
My edc is a j frame in a Bianchi leather thumb break iwb holster. It is comfortable and secure. The thumb break releases well , and attaining a grip and drawing is quick and easy.
That said , the holster does collapse somewhat after the firearm is removed from it. In my experience and opinion it is best to free the holster from the waistband and then re-holster the gun. Re-setting the holster into the waistband is not difficult. If I really want to practice repeated draws and not reset the holster each time I do so with the revolver unloaded.
I am not comfortable reinserting the loaded revolver into a partially collapsed holster.
That said , the holster does collapse somewhat after the firearm is removed from it. In my experience and opinion it is best to free the holster from the waistband and then re-holster the gun. Re-setting the holster into the waistband is not difficult. If I really want to practice repeated draws and not reset the holster each time I do so with the revolver unloaded.
I am not comfortable reinserting the loaded revolver into a partially collapsed holster.
Trunk Monkey
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I don't wear an IWB holster
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I was aware of that method, but did not want to be entirely dependent on it. Just because you have a can of fix a flat that's quicker and easier to deploy than changing a tire, would you not bother to figure out where your spare, jack, and tire iron are in a new car? More to the point, I often use 2 hands when removing the holster after putting the gun back in the safe. I figured I could get used to removing it with one hand (and since then I have). But I knew that I did NOT want to run out of hands when re-holstering a loaded gun. Besides Azrock's points, I also fear that method encourages too much focus on the holster and belt clip, and not enough focus on what the muzzle is doing. Perhaps that fear is mis-guided - I freely admit I have plenty to learn. Perhaps I also over-thought the entire process - I tend to do that. But it seemed a big deal at the time, and those are the main reasons I didn't use that method.
I practiced a procedure I was uncertain of with an unloaded gun before trying it with a loaded one. I don't see that as a bad thing. Just a lack of experience, and a safe way to obtain said experience. And yes, it's striker-fired. But I, too, have a "Glock Leg Switch" (thanks JJFitch) courtesy of Sig Sauer:
It's in the same place it is on my SA and SA-DA guns, with the same operation. I just didn't want to put TOO MUCH trust in it, as safeties are mechanical devices and can fail.
All that said, I fear my comments have derailed Mars5l's thread more than enough now so I'm going to bow out. I'd be happy to discuss this further in a new thread or in private messages if anyone has additional concerns or comments, but I don't think that's what this thread was intended for. No hard feelings on my end, and nothing I've said was at all intended to offend anyone. Please accept my sincerest apologies if it did/does.
FFGColorado
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Pretty funny..far more people have shot themselves in the leg when reholstering rather than needing to do chest compressions next to a school yard or was in the teeny chance that you would need to use a HG, in ANY neighborhood..with or w/o LEO there.
'Disrobe'..nice exaggeration...
Gee, my SD gun lives outside the holster(HD also)..so not much 'fumbling' to put it into the holster in the AM before I put it onto my belt. If you 'fumble' around when trying to put a HG into a holster..well..maybe you have other issues..Put the holster on first? Then reholster? Look up 'Glock leg'...
Y'all do whatever ya want...but if I ever gotta take the gun out for a reason, when that's done, it's either going on the ground with my hands up as LEO arrives or holster off, gun in, holster back on belt..YMMV and all that.
Azrocks ain't gonna like that...
sparkyv
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What does this mean? Did I miss something? Aren't we still allowed?
chicharrones
needs more ammo
chicharrones
needs more ammo
Trunk Monkey
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Stupid autocorrect that was supposed to be such things
Trunk Monkey
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I have a job that occasionally requires me to be able to holster my handgun without looking. I'm not going to do it one way at work and another way when I'm not at work.
That said, you may rest assured that I make sure that holster is clear before I put my gun in it.
PS. God forbid that I should ever have to shoot somebody but should that unfortunate circumstance arise I'm not doing chest compressions on them. I'm not going anywhere near them
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azrocks
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Azrocks ain't gonna like that...
What I like or don't like doesn't matter, nor do I particularly care what you do personally. The problem comes in when you're giving poor advice to people who think you know what you're talking about. The solution to having a holster that collapses preventing safe re-holstering is to get a quality holster made for the task, and practice with it often. The solution is not to come up with convoluted reasons to avoid the necessity of being able to put away your handgun safely after it's been drawn, nor to rationalize your choice of substandard gear. If you want to go down the road of "chances of having to use it are... " we can play that game, all the way back to why are you carrying one in the first place. To my way of thinking, however, since I've decided to carry a firearm, I'm going to practice to be proficient in it's use. And part of that proficiency means being able to not only present it in order to deal with a threat, but to safely secure it once the threat has been neutralized or abated. Think about that word real hard - SECURE - because it has significant meaning in the context of the civil application of potentially deadly force.
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JR24
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Started carrying 10 years ago when I moved from WI (no CCW at the time) to AK. Didn't really think about CCW right away but carried out in the field plenty, then my dog had a run-in on a walk with an unleashed, big, aggressive Rott (lots of unleashed semi-feral dogs in that town) and decided to start doing the dog walks with a .45 on my hip, Sig P220.
Once I started that I just kinda kept carrying all the time, eventually going to the smaller 225, then a litany of various guns, mostly Glocks and 1911s over the years.
Even now I keep going back and forth between a 1911ish Wilson EDCX9 and the boring old Glock 19. I shoot both about the same over nearly all metrics, both conceal the same, but the Glock has access to sights that work best for me (Ameriglo CAP), my preferred holster (Vedder) and is lighter.
Once I started that I just kinda kept carrying all the time, eventually going to the smaller 225, then a litany of various guns, mostly Glocks and 1911s over the years.
Even now I keep going back and forth between a 1911ish Wilson EDCX9 and the boring old Glock 19. I shoot both about the same over nearly all metrics, both conceal the same, but the Glock has access to sights that work best for me (Ameriglo CAP), my preferred holster (Vedder) and is lighter.
JJFitch
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Back in the day when people were shooting themselves too frequently while holstering their new fangled striker fired pistols this illustrates the culprit. What was occurring during holstering, the index finger was used as a guide. The second finger was relaxed and at times was catching on the edge of the holster and during insertion the finger was guided in toward the trigger. If the operator wasn't paying attention and continued insertion "Kaboom"!
Notice the curvature of the edge of the holster in relation to the trigger guard and how it can act like a guide!
I personally witnessed two occurrences and had a "near miss" while handcuffing a "hoodrat"! I was standing in a awkward position and felt my second finger engage the trigger. I stopped, no "kaboom"!
All the best,
Trunk Monkey
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My duty holster was a Safariland 6280 no problems like that
JJFitch
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YUP, Safariland and Bianci responded to the issues of retention and Glock leg early on. The Bianci factory is in Riverside County, CA where I was a Deputy. Sold my G22 and " Glock gear" the day I retired! Kept my 4566 and 5906 though!
Smiles,
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