One rifle?

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Talking to a friend about the one rifle. This would be a CA gun (no great bears or extra large ungulates). So, I think larger than a .243 and smaller than a .30-06. Eliminating calibers with ammo we can't buy at Walmart (think excellent cals like 6.5x55 or .257 Bob), you are left with 7mm-08, .308, .270 Win and precious little else.

My advice was the .308 though both the other two are good. The Win is everywhere as is the .308, but the Rem isn't always available...

What would you recommend, even if that is going with another caliber and going online to buy the ammo?

He knows guns, but not hunting. Around here we have pigs and small blacktail deer.

Thanks,
Greg
 
I don't think there's any reason to turn from these three calibers, since we're talking about hunting. 308 and 270 would both be sufficient for hunting out to 400+ yards if the shooter can make the hits, and I don't know much about 7-08, but from what I've heard, it's also up to the task.

While you have higher BC bullets available with the .284 7-08, if he doesn't reload, 308 might be a better choice for both availability and factory loaded variability. I'm a 270 fan, but I can't see any real reason to pick it over 308... so 308 is my recommendation. It also gives you the most rifles to choose from, and no unnecessary recoil - not that 270 is a thumper. ;)
 
I would second your vote for the .308. I am a rifle nut and love odd calibers, but if you don't reload they become troublesome. I would bet that from Avalon to Alturas, you can find .308 in one form or another. I wouldn't discount the .243 though, especially if they are new to shooting. I have used it with great effect on lots of game under 350 lbs and the reduced recoil will promote more practice. Having said that, the .308 is a solid performer.
 
A .308 or .243 bolt gun is a must for most gun cabinets. I lean more towards .308 as it is usually more available and a good cartridge to learn handloading on if he decides to pick up that addicting part of the hobby.
 
But there ain't many troubles that a man caint fix
With seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six."

From a poem by Jeff Coopers daughter.

"Grandpa's Lesson."

Pappy took to drinkin' back when I was barely three.
Ma got pretty quiet. She was frettin', you could see.
So I was sent to Grandpa and he raised me up real good.
He taught me what I oughta and he taught me what I should.

I learned a heap 'o lessons from the yarns he liked to tell.
There's one I won't forget because I learned it 'speshly well.
There jist ain't many folk who live a peaceful, carefree life.
Along with all the good times there'll be lotsa grief and strife.

But there ain't many troubles that a man caint fix
With seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six."

Grandpa courted Grandma near the town of old Cheyenne.
Her daddy was cantankerous - a very greedy man.
He wouldn't give permission for a fancy wedding day
'Til grandpa paid a dowry - biggest ever people say.

Her daddy softened up when Grandpa said that he could fix
Him up with seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six.

Grandpa herded cattle down around Jalisco way.
Ended up behind some iron bars one dusty day.
Seems the local jefe craved my Grandpa's pinto mare.
Grandpa wouldn't sell her so he lit on out of there.

Didn't take much doin' 'cept a couple special tricks
Plus seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six.

Then there was that Faro game near San Francisco Bay.
Grandpa's cards was smokin' hot and he took all one day.
He woke up nearly naked in a ditch next early morn'.
With nothin' but his flannel shirt, and it was ripped and torn.

Those others were professionals and they don't play for kicks.
He lost seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six.

He begged some woolen trousers off the local storekeep there
Who loaned him both a pony and a rifle on a dare.
He caught those thievin' cardsharks at another Faro game.
He got back all his property and also his good name.

He left one bleedin' badly and another mostly lame.
My Grandpa's trusty rifle shoots just where you choose to aim.

Grandpa's slowin' down a bit and just the other night
He handed me his rifle and a box sealed up real tight.
He fixed me with them pale grey eyes and this is what he said,
"You're awful young but steady too and I will soon be dead.

I'll bet this here old rifle and this honest money too
Will come in mighty handy just as readily for you.
There jist ain't many folk who lead a carefree peaceful life.
Along with times of happiness, there's always woe and strife.

But.....ain't many troubles that a man caint fix
with seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six."

Lindy Cooper Wisdom

rc
 
The .308 can fix a lot of problems too, plus it's easier to shoot.

Perhaps the poem could be written thus:

But . . . . ain't many troubles that a man cain't circumnavigate,
With seven hundred dollars and his three-oh-eight.

But it's just not as cute.
 
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A 308 or 243 are the logical choices. If he is willing to purchase ammo online it opens the doors to 260 and 6.5 Creedmore which I think are really just about perfect.

To be honest there is nothing there that a 243 won't kill. Premium loads might need to be ordered online since Walmart usually only carries basic stuff.
 
A 308 or spawn of 308. Easy enough to find ammunition. While I like the spawns, they are not as easy to find ammo for, I really like the 7mm-08. Anyway, 308 would be my suggestion.

Ron
 
One rifle?

Given the OP's description, a good choice would be someone's .308 Scout rifle with detachable mag system. Run a low forward-mounted 2.75x or 3x scout (or pistol) scope, with a good set of iron sights for back up.

He knows guns, but not hunting. Around here we have pigs and small blacktail deer.

Zero said rifle @ 200yds.
 
Don't know why I didn't think of a scout rifle. We've got a guy here who always has at least one for sale.

Thanks for the input and poem guys.

Greg
 
I'd pick the 7-08 or 30-06, not enough difference between the 308 and 06 and in the smaller case I prefer the 7-08.
If he will really be a one gun man either of those will perform on CA. BG.
 
A 308 or 243 are the logical choices. If he is willing to purchase ammo online it opens the doors to 260 and 6.5 Creedmore which I think are really just about perfect.

To be honest there is nothing there that a 243 won't kill. Premium loads might need to be ordered online since Walmart usually only carries basic stuff.
I've been wanting to get into some long range bolt gun shooting for awhile and the emergence of the new Ruger Precision Rifle puts it within reach for me.

I too am currently debating between .243, 6.5 CM, and 308. I like the long range capability of the 6.5, but I imagine 308 ammo is a lot easier to find on a regular basis.
 
Well, I cannot argue with your .308 recommendation for only one rifle. It is a good choice.

My choice would be .270, but I think there is no real world significant advantage basis for that, I just like it, it kills deer very well. Ammo is also available everywhere, there are lots of rifles to choose from. I am assuming you are referring to a bolt gun.
 
If you're talking off the shelf ammunition and that's my understanding I would have to say .308.
If you had the ability to reload and were not dependent upon off the shelf ammo, that would open the door to a few more calibers that could be recommended such as .270.
Even in the worst of times and in some odd ball places I have found a box or two of .308 available.
 
With choices comes differences of opinion. Your reasoning and choices aside.

The 30-06 because of the different loads you can get is my choice.
 
Some folks need to re-read the OP.

"I think larger than a .243 and smaller than a .30-06."

Either would do but I would probably pick the 7mm08 or .260.


plus, It's un-American not to own a -06.
I'd rather have a sharp stick in the eye.
 
Any of the mentioned cartridges would work fine for deer and hogs. I've been using .270 more in the last couple years and it has really grown on me. .270 kills well, shoots fairly flat, doesn't recoil too much, and is available pretty much everywhere that sells ammo. Just a well balanced hunting cartridge. Of course many of the same things could be said about the .308 ( or '06 if that was an option), you can't really go wrong with either of those.
 
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Yes bolt.

I'd say .30-06 as well but you just don't need one here...

The .270 is prob equal in every measurable way in this neck of the woods, prob flatter shooting.

I have friends that reload, but that won't be Rob; it pretty much has to be a "what can I buy at Walmart" deal for him...

Love the input.

Greg
 
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