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Oops ... No lube

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by pleopard, Aug 6, 2013.

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  1. pleopard

    pleopard Member

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    I've got a Lee 25th kit with 243 and 30-06 dies. I've deprimed/straightened 300+ cartridges without an issue. THEN I read that I need to lubricate the cartridges before running them through the neck resizing die ... Oops ...

    Really, I haven't had a single cartridge get stuck. What kids of problems can I expect from this if I don't start lubing my cases?
     
  2. USSR

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    :eek: It's true, God watches over children, fools and drunks. You can expect a stuck case.

    Don
     
  3. tyeo098

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    Lube your cases.
    Its easy and ensures proper operation.

    I used Kiwi-brand Mink oil shoe waterproofer I got from the local grocery store :)
     
  4. pleopard

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    I got a tube of cream with the Lee 25th, I just coat the outside of the shell and inside the neck right?
     
  5. jmorris

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    I have gotten away with neck sizing without lube but don't even try it if you decide to full length size.
     
  6. steve4102

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    I'm going to assume you are using Lee dies. Yes?

    If so, then NO you do not need to lube your brass when using the Lee Neck sizing die.

    The Lee neck die is a "collet" die and requires no lube. You should take the die apart, clean out all the crap that came with it and lightly lube the die itself, but no need to lube any brass.
     
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    I give my brass a light spray of silicon just to help things along on my Loadmaster.
     
  8. Rule3

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    Use Pledge if you do not have lube.
     
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    Do you do this with a Lee Collet die in your Loadmaster?
     
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    Steve is right if you are using the collet dies.

    http://leeprecision.com/reloading-dies/rifle-dies/lee-collet-dies/

     
  11. pleopard

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    Yes, I am using Lee collett dies, thanks
     
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    Just remember, when you switch over to your Full Length die, you MUST lube. Only the Lee Collet neck sizing die is lube free.
     
  13. rsrocket1

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    Don't need lube with the collet neck sizing dies, but it would be a good idea to chamber each empty case after neck sizing in your gun. The bodies do stretch and eventually they get too long and will result in either a very tight bolt closure or failure to close the bolt. At that time, you should bump the shoulder back a few thousandths. You can do this using the full length die screwed partially in.

    If you have a headspace gauge you can instead measure each case against the max case headspace that will fit in your gun, but the actual chamber test also works and it's free.
     
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    When you do full length size use the lube sparingly a little goes a long way, over lubing can cause problems.
     
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    Be careful not to lube the shoulder.
     
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