oops. Wrong caliber shot out of my gun... eek

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More important then spelling lessons , Do not shoot the wrong caliber out of your gun !
 
I'm a professional editor. I love this thread! :D

Yeah, put da rite boolits in yer gunn. :p
 
alpha63romeo- okaye, lessin lernd. Yoo dont nede tu poste nuthin lik that round hear. besids wut duz youre liddle gramer lessin haf tu du wif a fourty kalibur shooted owt of a fourty 5?
 
Firearms and Grammer/spelling

Although I too understood what was meant by "clean the barrel good", I have to disagree that the correction of the grammer was not in order. I do agree that it could have been done more diplomatically. As is obvious, I don't get high marks in grammer and spelling either. I do proofread each post before submitting it and it doesn't seem to "take the fun out of it" at all. I do try my best to get it right. We should all try to use the language correctly for a very good reason. Laxness in any area breeds sloppy habits in all areas. Some may think it "funny" to demand correct usage of the language but take seriously the loading of the wrong cartridge in a gun even though the two are connected. It pays great dividends to "get the details right" both in communication and the use of tools. Checking each cartridge for correctness before loading is no more trouble than proofreading before posting and a lot healthier. Personally I would rather have a bruised ego than a damaged eye.

Disdaining correctness in spelling and grammer is like walking into a gun shop and asking for some "45s". Okay, which "45"? Another all-too-common one is to ask for "30 caliber". Okay, what is the bore diameter so I can find something 30 times that size? It is important to know if you just put a 20 guage in your 12 guage for some strange reason.:banghead:

I have seen some posts that are so bad that it is almost a foreign language. I usually send them a private message in the most polite way that I am able to try to help and educate. Sometimes I have saved myself much embarrasement because it turned out the person with the bad grammer/spelling was 'English as a second language' or dislexic. As this is "The High Road" and quite public, grammer and spelling corrections should be done privately. However, it is also not the "High Road" to ridicule someone who, however impolitely, attempts to better our usage of the language. We are supposed to be grown-ups and able to take our criticisms besides hand them out.
 
alpha63romeo said:
Don't clean the barrel good. Because you can't. Good is an adjective (used to describe a noun), well is an adverb (used to describe a verb). What you want to do is clean (verb) it well. Then the barrel (noun) will be good and clean.
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oh man, yer gonna take some crap for that one. LOL.
You are right, but remember a forum isn't alway the best grammer. A lot of time it's just slang.

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Thanks for the replies. I have yet to look at the gun. Tomorrow night...
 
"GRAMMER"?

History Nut said:
Although I too understood what was meant by "clean the barrel good", I have to disagree that the correction of the grammer was not in order. I do agree that it could have been done more diplomatically. As is obvious, I don't get high marks in grammer and spelling either. I do proofread each post before submitting it and it doesn't seem to "take the fun out of it" at all. I do try my best to get it right. We should all try to use the language correctly for a very good reason. Laxness in any area breeds sloppy habits in all areas. Some may think it "funny" to demand correct usage of the language but take seriously the loading of the wrong cartridge in a gun even though the two are connected. It pays great dividends to "get the details right" both in communication and the use of tools. Checking each cartridge for correctness before loading is no more trouble than proofreading before posting and a lot healthier. Personally I would rather have a bruised ego than a damaged eye.

Disdaining correctness in spelling and grammer is like walking into a gun shop and asking for some "45s". Okay, which "45"? Another all-too-common one is to ask for "30 caliber". Okay, what is the bore diameter so I can find something 30 times that size? It is important to know if you just put a 20 guage in your 12 guage for some strange reason.:banghead:

I have seen some posts that are so bad that it is almost a foreign language. I usually send them a private message in the most polite way that I am able to try to help and educate. Sometimes I have saved myself much embarrasement because it turned out the person with the bad grammer/spelling was 'English as a second language' or dislexic. As this is "The High Road" and quite public, grammer and spelling corrections should be done privately. However, it is also not the "High Road" to ridicule someone who, however impolitely, attempts to better our usage of the language. We are supposed to be grown-ups and able to take our criticisms besides hand them out.
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Don't mess with the mote in my eye, until you get that logjam out of yours!
Yeah, sometimes I sound like the Redneck I am, but, Diane Feinstein ain't one of MY senators!:D
 
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Actually he got it right

You're = you are gonna hate it here.
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Did I mention that I'm a writer? ;) Sometimes bad grammar makes me insane. On an internet forum, however, no one expects perfection. Worse than bad usage, I can't stand the posts with seven sentences and not a period to be found anywhere. I'm not a grammar Nazi, but it is annoying.

Ex:

Hi I just found a marlin 30-30 my grandfather had it in the basement what do you guys think its worth thanks oh and by the way I was educated in a 3rd world country isn't that funny I thought you would think so go easy on me I am new here:banghead:
 
swampsniper said:
I was teaching a girl friend to cook, no way would I propose until she got the hang of boiling water, walked in one day, and she showed me the spaghetti she boiled, then, she said, "have a beer, relax, I'm starting to make the sauce"!:D
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How dense was the lump of pasta when she finished the sauce? ;)

This is why I do the cooking around here....
 
That's all well and good, but

Whoa-oa-oa! I feel well, I knew that I would, now
I feel well, I knew that I would, now
So well, so well, I got you!

Just doesn't cut it for me. Now, as much as I am a stickler for correct spelling and grammar, if we can cut James Brown some slack surely we can do the same on this forum.

Noobs. :rolleyes: :)

Sawdust
 
History Nut said:
As this is "The High Road" and quite public, grammer and spelling corrections should be done privately. However, it is also not the "High Road" to ridicule someone who, however impolitely, attempts to better our usage of the language. We are supposed to be grown-ups and able to take our criticisms besides hand them out.
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Indeed. But if you are willing to publically correct someone's spelling or grammar, then you need to be ready to accept public criticism for your actions.

I too try to practice correct spelling, grammar and punctuation while posting on the internet, but don't feel that I'm responsible for correcting the same in others. The old saying about stones and glass houses is never far from my mind.

But this is all moot. Since the poster has not replied he is either what others have labelled him, a troll, or has been scared off. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, a la High Road, but felt like I should point out that that kind of behaviour was not popular and would distract from any points he was trying to make.

I have enjoyed the discussion that his post inspired however.

Tex
 
This has been entertaining. Let me first address whomever it was that pointed out my comma splice: you are absolutely correct. I find myself less concerned with punctuation than with how something sounds when spoken though. Had I spoken the sentence there would be no comma/semicolon. I understand the difference; it was just an error on my part. When I say out loud: “clean the barrel good”, it seems to want to come out in the same voice I might use to jokingly say “I like them french fried potaters,” or, “boy, you got a purdy mouth.” I’ll assume that the unnecessary comma in “Nice comma splice there, professor” was meant to be funny. If you wanted a pause there I think an ellipses would have been more appropriate.

Let me then address the person who said:

“Whoa-oa-oa! I feel well, I knew that I would, now
I feel well, I knew that I would, now
So well, so well, I got you!

Just doesn't cut it for me. Now, as much as I am a stickler for correct spelling and grammar, if we can cut James Brown some slack surely we can do the same on this forum.”

Good is correct when referring to verbs of sensation. For instance: “The pie smells good” is correct. “Good” is describing the pie. To say “the pie smells well” would imply that the pie has a nose and is good at smelling. Likewise, you can say that you feel good, or smell good, or even taste good (if you enjoying licking yourself).

In all seriousness though, if I were interviewing someone for a job and they said, “I work good with others,” I would say, “Thanks, don’t call us… we won’t call you.”

As far as being labeled a troll… well, quite frankly I have no idea what that means. I’m not frightened by the discussion that my post has created. In fact, that was the entire purpose of the post: to create a discussion. I’ve simply been too busy to respond. I didn’t intend to offend anyone.

If anyone’s interested in my bits of wisdom, I’ll leave you with a few. 1- Watch your adjectives/adverbs. 2- Use whom if the pronoun is the object of the sentence, otherwise it’s who. 3- Don’t call something a “gun” unless you’re referring to a piece of artillery. And 4- If you missed something someone said, ask them “say again”; only use the word “repeat” if it’s immediately followed by “last fire mission.”
 
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Good is an adjective (used to describe a noun), well is an adverb (used to describe a verb).


1KPerDay said:
Nice comma splice there, professor.:rolleyes:
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Actually the bigger problem is that it's a run-on sentence. Both phrases are indeed complete thoughts, but without a conjunction, such as the word "and", alpha63romeo's attempt at a complete sentence is an abject failure. If he had separated the two phrases with a period, instead of a comma, it would have been sufficient, but as it stands the sentence should have appeared something like this:

"Good is an adjective, and well is an adverb.......also, i am a tool."
 
alpha63romeo said:
This has been entertaining. Let me first address whomever it was that pointed out my comma splice: you are absolutely correct. I find myself less concerned with punctuation than with how something sounds when spoken though. Had I spoken the sentence there would be no comma/semicolon. I understand the difference; it was just an error on my part. When I say out loud: “clean the barrel good”, it seems to want to come out in the same voice I might use to jokingly say “I like them french fried potaters,” or, “boy, you got a purdy mouth.” I’ll assume that the unnecessary comma in “Nice comma splice there, professor” was meant to be funny. If you wanted a pause there I think an ellipses would have been more appropriate.

Let me then address the person who said:

“Whoa-oa-oa! I feel well, I knew that I would, now
I feel well, I knew that I would, now
So well, so well, I got you!

Just doesn't cut it for me. Now, as much as I am a stickler for correct spelling and grammar, if we can cut James Brown some slack surely we can do the same on this forum.”

Good is correct when referring to verbs of sensation. For instance: “The pie smells good” is correct. “Good” is describing the pie. To say “the pie smells well” would imply that the pie has a nose and is good at smelling. Likewise, you can say that you feel good, or smell good, or even taste good (if you enjoying licking yourself).

In all seriousness though, if I were interviewing someone for a job and they said, “I work good with others,” I would say, “Thanks, don’t call us… we won’t call you.”

As far as being labeled a troll… well, quite frankly I have no idea what that means. I’m not frightened by the discussion that my post has created. In fact, that was the entire purpose of the post: to create a discussion. I’ve simply been too busy to respond. I didn’t intend to offend anyone.

If anyone’s interested in my bits of wisdom, I’ll leave you with a few. 1- Watch your adjectives/adverbs. 2- Use whom if the pronoun is the object of the sentence, otherwise it’s who. 3- Don’t call something a “gun” unless you’re referring to a piece of artillery. And 4- If you missed something someone said, ask them “say again”; only use the word “repeat” if it’s immediately followed by “last fire mission.”
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what do they say about a glass house? i could red-mark your lousy grammar all day.
 
By the way, I'm pretty sure a run-on sentence is a sentence where two or more complete sentences are joined with no punctuation. So, he was right; it was a comma splice.
 
alpha63romeo said:
By the way, I'm pretty sure a run-on sentence is a sentence where two or more complete sentences are joined with no punctuation. So, he was right; it was a comma splice.
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Run-ons - Comma Splices - Fused Sentences
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Run-ons, Comma Splices, Fused Sentences

The above are all names given to compound sentences that are not punctuated correctly. The best way to avoid such errors is to punctuate compound sentences correctly by using one or the other of these rules.


1. Join the two independent clauses with one of the coordinating conjunctions (and, but, for, or, nor, so, yet), and use a comma before the connecting word.


whatever you want to call it is ok by me. it's still amusing.
 
Well, going back to the original post...

You done hurt nothing. You weren't the first to do it and you won't be the last. Nother common one is 9mm into a .40SW barrel.
 
I think the whole thing has been amusing. That was the entire purpose of it. In all seriousness though, effective communication is important. I don't have the figures on the percentage of people in the U.S. who are functionally illiterate, but I can recall discussing it in a sociology class and being shocked by the number. Business Communication classes are extremely important in college today. Employers are complaining that recently hired college graduates can't communicate effectively, thanks in large part to email and text messaging.
 
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