I had a total of 4 taurus revolvers. Had is the word as 2 have failed. The raging bull .41 mag went back three times and i still had to fix it myself. Then it failed again. Sent it to factory, no repair cause they quit making it. Was told to order something else. Ok I want a .41 mag, that they don't make. I will never buy another POS taurus ever again. The other bad one I will crush flat and just send it to them to keep.
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Taurus makes guns, and have features that no other manufacturer has, at least in the revolver line. I will give Taurus a "B" based on my experience. I have 4 revolvers, and an autoloader. I own an all stainless model 94 22 snub, a stainless model 327 snub, a blue model 905 9mm snub, a stainless 617 357 snub, and a PLY-22 pistol.
The model 94 has issues. The chambers were never polished, and look like they were drilled with broken drill bits. The DA trigger is so heavy, its unusable. It is however, accurate and reliable, and when I bought it, was the only 2" 22 revolver that had adjustable sights. It also has the highest capacity for a 22 snub, 9 rounds.
The Model 905, the Model 327, the Model 617, and the PLY-22 have all been excellent. I like these guns so well, I am considering another revolver that no one else offers. I want a 4" Tracker 44 Magnum. My 617 is on the same frame as the Tracker. This gun is small, basically the size of a Ruger SP101. A small frame 4" 44 Magnum, with a 4" ported barrel, is an excellent combination.
I have no problem buying another Taurus.They make some very innovative guns, especially in the revolver line. I dont have any experience with the centerfire autoloaders, but my revolvers have been very good, and in the case of my 94, I will say its been adequate, and reliable
The model 94 has issues. The chambers were never polished, and look like they were drilled with broken drill bits. The DA trigger is so heavy, its unusable. It is however, accurate and reliable, and when I bought it, was the only 2" 22 revolver that had adjustable sights. It also has the highest capacity for a 22 snub, 9 rounds.
The Model 905, the Model 327, the Model 617, and the PLY-22 have all been excellent. I like these guns so well, I am considering another revolver that no one else offers. I want a 4" Tracker 44 Magnum. My 617 is on the same frame as the Tracker. This gun is small, basically the size of a Ruger SP101. A small frame 4" 44 Magnum, with a 4" ported barrel, is an excellent combination.
I have no problem buying another Taurus.They make some very innovative guns, especially in the revolver line. I dont have any experience with the centerfire autoloaders, but my revolvers have been very good, and in the case of my 94, I will say its been adequate, and reliable
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Personal experience has lead me to spend my money elsewhere, though there are many happy Taurus owners out there.
Three out of three Taurus revolvers I've handled and shot have had major issues. That's a very small sample size though.
Three out of three Taurus revolvers I've handled and shot have had major issues. That's a very small sample size though.
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I am batting .500 for my first two Taurus revolvers and 1000 when counting the 3rd one. 
I encountered small rattlesnake in my garage this past weekend while stacking hay bales. I was carrying my Taurus 38 snubbie but didn't want to shoot the snake and damage the concrete floor so one of my Jack Russel Terrorists jumped in and killed it.
Then the other night our mare spooked, broke loose of her lead rope and was gone until morning which leads us to believe we have a bigger rattlesnake lurking around in the tall weeds. I am spraying the weeds with Round-Up but I am still going to have to move stuff to clear the area of habitat for snakes. My Taurus M-941 loaded with eight rounds of Speer Gold Dot 22 Magnum is going to be on my hip.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=724540&highlight=taurus+corporate
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=724589&highlight=taurus+corporate
I encountered small rattlesnake in my garage this past weekend while stacking hay bales. I was carrying my Taurus 38 snubbie but didn't want to shoot the snake and damage the concrete floor so one of my Jack Russel Terrorists jumped in and killed it.
Then the other night our mare spooked, broke loose of her lead rope and was gone until morning which leads us to believe we have a bigger rattlesnake lurking around in the tall weeds. I am spraying the weeds with Round-Up but I am still going to have to move stuff to clear the area of habitat for snakes. My Taurus M-941 loaded with eight rounds of Speer Gold Dot 22 Magnum is going to be on my hip.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=724540&highlight=taurus+corporate
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=724589&highlight=taurus+corporate
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I have direct experience with one Taurus, and indirect experience with another.
A few years ago, I bought a used PT92 at Gander Mountain, and later learned that a co-worker had traded it in there just a couple weeks prior. He, in turn, had bought it from another (former) co-worker. That makes me at least the third owner. It was problem-free for me until shooting a friend's reloads. No idea what the cause was exactly, but the end result was a cracked feed ramp. I'd bought the one-year warranty from Gander just to throw the salesman a bone, so I brought it back, and they sent it off to Taurus. I had it back just under a month later, with a new barrel. No problems since then. I like it quite a bit, and given my buddy's history since then with his reloads, I can't really put full blame on the gun.
The other is my mother-in-law's little .380, model TCP something or other. She had bought it for concealed carry, moved out of state before getting her permit, and then moved back. She had taken it to the range only once and complained of it jamming. I asked her if she'd ever cleaned or oiled it since buying it, which she had not. I gave it a once over and oiled it before she went to take her CC class. Well, the gun still gave her trouble. The instructor said she had a "double feed" but I'm not convinced of that since there was still a live round in the chamber, with the slide stuck back ever so slightly. There was a distinct primer strike mark, but it was well off-center. I cleared it, inspected it and couldn't see anything obviously wrong, so I question if she "rode" the slide forward when chambering the first round and . . . well, I'm not so sure it's the gun's fault. I think it was simply the wrong gun for her.
I would buy another PT92 without hesitation, and would consider some other Taurus models, but I think there are better guns for not much more money.
A few years ago, I bought a used PT92 at Gander Mountain, and later learned that a co-worker had traded it in there just a couple weeks prior. He, in turn, had bought it from another (former) co-worker. That makes me at least the third owner. It was problem-free for me until shooting a friend's reloads. No idea what the cause was exactly, but the end result was a cracked feed ramp. I'd bought the one-year warranty from Gander just to throw the salesman a bone, so I brought it back, and they sent it off to Taurus. I had it back just under a month later, with a new barrel. No problems since then. I like it quite a bit, and given my buddy's history since then with his reloads, I can't really put full blame on the gun.
The other is my mother-in-law's little .380, model TCP something or other. She had bought it for concealed carry, moved out of state before getting her permit, and then moved back. She had taken it to the range only once and complained of it jamming. I asked her if she'd ever cleaned or oiled it since buying it, which she had not. I gave it a once over and oiled it before she went to take her CC class. Well, the gun still gave her trouble. The instructor said she had a "double feed" but I'm not convinced of that since there was still a live round in the chamber, with the slide stuck back ever so slightly. There was a distinct primer strike mark, but it was well off-center. I cleared it, inspected it and couldn't see anything obviously wrong, so I question if she "rode" the slide forward when chambering the first round and . . . well, I'm not so sure it's the gun's fault. I think it was simply the wrong gun for her.
I would buy another PT92 without hesitation, and would consider some other Taurus models, but I think there are better guns for not much more money.
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I like my 9mm PT111G-2 and use it for EDC. Your milage may vary but from personal experience I won't hesitate to buy another
Ibmikey
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One local gun shop refuses to stock Taurus firearms as he sent so many in for repairs. He will special order but only with the understanding that when it breaks the customer can send it back for repairs. I must say this was five years ago and policy may have changed since then. My Rossi/Taurus 1892 SRC required the normal disassembly, stoning of parts left so rough you feel they did nothing to a part machined with a very dull cutting head and finally reassembly. The rifle now feeds properly. The old crap sights have been replaced with a servicable set since Taurus take over.
critter
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Thanks a million for all the input. From the sound of things, the chance of a less-than-perfect product coupled with the maybe-maybe not customer service, I think I'll do something else. I'll put my "want" on hold, save up some more money and buy something of higher quality.
Thanks again! I knew I could count on the collective wisdom of the members here. You guys are the best!
Thanks again! I knew I could count on the collective wisdom of the members here. You guys are the best!
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Back in 2006 I bought my then soon to be wife a brand new Taurus M85 Ultra lite. I cleaned it and how I didn't catch it I'll never know. I guess being a brand new gun I figured it was right. Wrong answer.
We went to the range and she fired a cylinder full and handed me the gun back. That's when I noticed the cylinder would not lock on 3 of the chambers. Even with the hammer back you could rotate the cylinder on the 3 chambers. The following day I took it back to the dealer I bought it from. He sent it to Taurus. I guess it was a few weeks getting it back. I never touched that gun again. I traded it right back to him for what I gave for it and bought her a S&W M 637. That was my first and last Taurus. I wouldn't own another Taurus on a bet.
We went to the range and she fired a cylinder full and handed me the gun back. That's when I noticed the cylinder would not lock on 3 of the chambers. Even with the hammer back you could rotate the cylinder on the 3 chambers. The following day I took it back to the dealer I bought it from. He sent it to Taurus. I guess it was a few weeks getting it back. I never touched that gun again. I traded it right back to him for what I gave for it and bought her a S&W M 637. That was my first and last Taurus. I wouldn't own another Taurus on a bet.
You'll be hard pressed to find many CURRENT "as of late" negative reviews about the current generations of Taurus simiautos. The PT111 gets GREAT reviews from most. The Taurus Slim went head to head with Glock, S&W, Kahr, SpringField, Ruger, and Sig single stack firearms and proved to be more reliable than almost all of them.
https://youtu.be/hAo1SONz7Ao
I personally have owned 2 Taurus TCPs, 2 PT111 G2, and an all stainless PT911. Haven't had an issue with any of them. Luckily for me that I came late to the Taurus party after they got their act together, so I didn't forever blacklist them and miss out.
https://youtu.be/hAo1SONz7Ao
I personally have owned 2 Taurus TCPs, 2 PT111 G2, and an all stainless PT911. Haven't had an issue with any of them. Luckily for me that I came late to the Taurus party after they got their act together, so I didn't forever blacklist them and miss out.
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BSA1
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With such a vague question it is hard to give you answers about specific models. Taurus has a well deserved reputation for inconsistent quality control with their revolvers. However when they are built correctly they hold up well. It does seem to me that most of the complaints about their revolvers are the small frame ones. Consider they make 44 Magnums and 454 Casull Raging Series with very few complaints posted on THR.
On the other hand they enjoy a good reputation for making high quality trouble free semi-autos. Go figure.
As far as customer service Taurus stands behind their firearms as well as S&W and Ruger.
What doesn't make sense to me is posters who say that they sent their gun in for repair and as soon as they got it back they sold or traded it without even shooting it. After going to all of that trouble to get it fixed they don't even bother to try shooting it and seeing if it meets with their expectations.
Smith & Wesson is turning out some horrible new guns. Complaints about overclocked barrels and cracked frames where the barrel screws into the frame are very common on the S&W Forum. Yet folks come online and brag about how great S&W Customer Service, how S&W will fix the gun and how great the gun will be after it is repaired.
Give me a break.
Going back to my experience with the first M-941 I brought. It passed all of in-store checks when I brought it and the problems didn't show up until I shot it. I followed Taurus Policy on returning the gun and they quickly replaced it. No B.S., no excuses. Just we are sorry and here is a new one.
I'm not a Taurus fanboy. I am definitely not a fanboy of new Smith & Wesson revolvers. Ruger makes good guns but most of them are overbuilt and heavy.
Taurus has some very good ideas and features in their guns. Consider the Internal Lock. Taurus put theirs in the hammer where it is not a only easily usable but doesn't ruin the looks of the gun with a hole in the side of the frame. I have never read any complaints about the Internal Lock engaging from the recoil of shooting live ammunition yet S&W's have had a lot of problems with their I.L.
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Give me a break. Taurus has 50% failure rate and they're ok S&W has a 5% failure rate and they're horrible. :banghead:
Give me a break. Taurus has 50% failure rate and they're ok S&W has a 5% failure rate and they're horrible. :banghead:
Taurus does not have a failure rate of 50%. That sounds like a stat "Joe at the gun shop told me...". If their failure rate was 50% they would have been out of business long ago.
I'm not talking about something that went wrong with a gun you've used for 10 years. My Taurus guns were bought between 1988 and 2013. After 10-12 years I sent one back for a rear sight blade that broke. I had a new one that we t back new for timing issues. So based on my experience the failure rate with my Taurus guns is 16%. If I combine it with the 50 or so people I know who bought Taurus handguns it would be 5-10%.
I was a LE firearms instructor. I saw literally hundreds of S&Ws come new from the factory. Both revolvers and semiautomatics. I would place their failure rate at...5-10%, the same as Taurus.
I'm not talking about something that went wrong with a gun you've used for 10 years. My Taurus guns were bought between 1988 and 2013. After 10-12 years I sent one back for a rear sight blade that broke. I had a new one that we t back new for timing issues. So based on my experience the failure rate with my Taurus guns is 16%. If I combine it with the 50 or so people I know who bought Taurus handguns it would be 5-10%.
I was a LE firearms instructor. I saw literally hundreds of S&Ws come new from the factory. Both revolvers and semiautomatics. I would place their failure rate at...5-10%, the same as Taurus.
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bearman,
Without links or the name of your sources that support your claim of the failure rate of Taurus and S&W your comment is a example of a outlandish emotional outburst.
Please post data you have to support your claim. 3rd hand stories from Joe at the LGS do not count.
Without links or the name of your sources that support your claim of the failure rate of Taurus and S&W your comment is a example of a outlandish emotional outburst.
Please post data you have to support your claim. 3rd hand stories from Joe at the LGS do not count.
The only guns I know of that never had to go back to the factory after the first range trip a re Ruger and Glock. I've even seen a couple of tge highly worshipped Python that weren't right straight from the factory.
Colt took months to get those. back to the owners in both those cases.
Colt took months to get those. back to the owners in both those cases.
doubleh
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I have owned four Taurus hand guns. Not a minutes problem with any of them. I still have three of them. Traded the other for something I liked better.
I've had my Taurus PT92 for close to 30 years. Its been a good gun and has been shot a lot with all types of ammo from military surplus and hand loads to +p+ LEO surplus. A few years ago the locking block broke just like it will on the Beretta 92. I replaced the block and recoil spring and its back in service. Would unequivocally recommend the Taurus 92 (Beretta clone).
I also have a Beretta 92F of the same age. The Taurus is not finished as well as the Beretta and may shoot 1/2" larger groups at 25 yds but it is as reliable and a good purchase at lower cost. Makes a good knock around or car gun.
I have one Taurus revolver, a .22 LR model 94 with 3" barrel. It been a great little gun to introduce new shooters to handguns and just fun plinking. Never have had any trouble with it but it doesn't compare to a much more expensive S&W kit gun or a Ruger SP101 .22LR
I also have a Beretta 92F of the same age. The Taurus is not finished as well as the Beretta and may shoot 1/2" larger groups at 25 yds but it is as reliable and a good purchase at lower cost. Makes a good knock around or car gun.
I have one Taurus revolver, a .22 LR model 94 with 3" barrel. It been a great little gun to introduce new shooters to handguns and just fun plinking. Never have had any trouble with it but it doesn't compare to a much more expensive S&W kit gun or a Ruger SP101 .22LR
bearman49709
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Where are your links or names of your sources?
S&W forum has lots of complaints because that's where people go for info and to complain just like every other forum no mater who makes what ever that forum is about!
Where are your links or names of your sources?
S&W forum has lots of complaints because that's where people go for info and to complain just like every other forum no mater who makes what ever that forum is about!
zb338
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I have a Taurus Millenium in 9MM. It is a pretty nice gun
and shoots well without any problems. The gun store I
go to says they collect broken Taurus guns every week
and send them back to the factory for the guys. Is it true?
I really don't know.
Zeke
and shoots well without any problems. The gun store I
go to says they collect broken Taurus guns every week
and send them back to the factory for the guys. Is it true?
I really don't know.
Zeke
BSA1
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bearman,
It is not my job to research your claims for you.
I posted just one of several sources to support my claim of overclocked barrels and cracked frames on S&W revolvers. Not only are these problems discussed on the S&W Forum but there are photographs posted clearly showing cracked frames and overclocked barrels.
Since you are dismissive of the complaints and are ignoring the photographs that are posted there I went to YouTube and typed in " smith and wesson cracked frames". The first video is by TheOl1911 showing the cracked frame on his Performance Center 686 Competitor and a second video by Stealurface424 showing the cracked frame on his Model 586 L-Comp.
You claim Taurus has a 50% failure and S&W has a 5% failure rate. Please post any facts and data that you have to support what I consider to be a outlandish emotional posting. And Joe at the LGS doesn't count.
It is not my job to research your claims for you.
I posted just one of several sources to support my claim of overclocked barrels and cracked frames on S&W revolvers. Not only are these problems discussed on the S&W Forum but there are photographs posted clearly showing cracked frames and overclocked barrels.
Since you are dismissive of the complaints and are ignoring the photographs that are posted there I went to YouTube and typed in " smith and wesson cracked frames". The first video is by TheOl1911 showing the cracked frame on his Performance Center 686 Competitor and a second video by Stealurface424 showing the cracked frame on his Model 586 L-Comp.
You claim Taurus has a 50% failure and S&W has a 5% failure rate. Please post any facts and data that you have to support what I consider to be a outlandish emotional posting. And Joe at the LGS doesn't count.
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TruthTellers
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From all I've read, Taurus can be hit or miss, no pun intended. Didn't they just recall a bunch of Millenniums? IDK, there are just some Taurus guns I would never bother buying because for $50-$100 more there are other guns whose quality is so solid that it's worth the extra price for something that can last forever and will always have value.
I like the Taurus Judge, I think it's a decent gun for the money, but Smith makes the Governor and that shoots .45 ACP. I'd rather pay the extra for the extra features in the Smith than the Judge.
The 992 Tracker is on the top of my .22 revolver wish list. Comes with spare .22 Magnum cylinder, 4" or 6.5" barrels, 9 round cylinders... just awesome.
Taurus is innovative too. They have that .38 with the removable hammer so now those who carry .38 snubs don't have to decide between exposed hammer or internal. The Curve... kind of lame, but no one else have ever done it before. The View... let's forget this ever happened.
Bottom line with Taurus is they make guns, but others make better guns for not much more. Not saying Taurus is junk because I've read so many statements of people very pleased with their Taurus gun. Taurus is tied as the most polarizing manufacturer along with Hi Point and Kel Tec.
I like the Taurus Judge, I think it's a decent gun for the money, but Smith makes the Governor and that shoots .45 ACP. I'd rather pay the extra for the extra features in the Smith than the Judge.
The 992 Tracker is on the top of my .22 revolver wish list. Comes with spare .22 Magnum cylinder, 4" or 6.5" barrels, 9 round cylinders... just awesome.
Taurus is innovative too. They have that .38 with the removable hammer so now those who carry .38 snubs don't have to decide between exposed hammer or internal. The Curve... kind of lame, but no one else have ever done it before. The View... let's forget this ever happened.
Bottom line with Taurus is they make guns, but others make better guns for not much more. Not saying Taurus is junk because I've read so many statements of people very pleased with their Taurus gun. Taurus is tied as the most polarizing manufacturer along with Hi Point and Kel Tec.
ApacheCoTodd
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Can't speak to their customer service and here's why...
We're 5-fer-5 in complete satisfaction so far. Not one glitch, hiccup, failure or disappointment from any of the five revolvers we have.
Todd.
We're 5-fer-5 in complete satisfaction so far. Not one glitch, hiccup, failure or disappointment from any of the five revolvers we have.
Todd.
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SS - for some reason I am compulsive about having all of my firearm pictures facing the same direction, even if I have to reverse them.
TT - I have the 22 Tracker with the extra 22 magnum cylinder. I wish the DA trigger was a bit lighter, but overall it is a good piece. The nice big grip gives me good control, the thick barrel/lug makes it nice and steady, and the sights are very good. It is not quite as accurate as my Buck Mark, but it outshoots my other half dozen 22 handguns.
TT - I have the 22 Tracker with the extra 22 magnum cylinder. I wish the DA trigger was a bit lighter, but overall it is a good piece. The nice big grip gives me good control, the thick barrel/lug makes it nice and steady, and the sights are very good. It is not quite as accurate as my Buck Mark, but it outshoots my other half dozen 22 handguns.
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