flashman70
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My wife wants a 9mm pistol that works for lefties (handedness, not politics). I looked at the H&K P2000 and P2000SK. Anyone here have opinions on these? Your guidance will be appreciated.
Opinions on H&K P2000?
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Head over to www.HKPro.com and read in the forums about these. LOTS of first-hand reports and opinions on both.
Hi...
I had an HK P2000 in .40 S&W...the gun was extremely comfortable in my hand (I am left handed). Never missed a beat right out of the box. I never really cared for the 40S&W cartridge though...I went with 1911's and never looked back.
The 9mm would probably be excellent for your wife.
I do have a near brand new High Noon Slideguard OWB holster made specificallly for the P2000 (and for a left hander). If you're interested send me a private message
Tom
I had an HK P2000 in .40 S&W...the gun was extremely comfortable in my hand (I am left handed). Never missed a beat right out of the box. I never really cared for the 40S&W cartridge though...I went with 1911's and never looked back.
The 9mm would probably be excellent for your wife.
I do have a near brand new High Noon Slideguard OWB holster made specificallly for the P2000 (and for a left hander). If you're interested send me a private message
Tom
xsnydx
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I've got a P2000 in 9mm with the LEM trigger and I love it. It's the most comfortable gun I've ever held/shot.
gudel
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Superior weapon. I have P2000 LEM 40. Very accurate, good recoil handling ability, excellent workmanship quality. It's worth the price I paid for new.
It will work best for left handed people as you can lock/release the slide with the left hand, and release the mag with the left hand.
I like to use the right side slide release with my index finger when loading one in the chamber. That way my grip position does not move.
100% function since I bought it brand new. I kind of like this LEM stuff, I'd like to convert my USP45 and USP9.
It will work best for left handed people as you can lock/release the slide with the left hand, and release the mag with the left hand.
I like to use the right side slide release with my index finger when loading one in the chamber. That way my grip position does not move.
100% function since I bought it brand new. I kind of like this LEM stuff, I'd like to convert my USP45 and USP9.
Autolycus
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I love mine. I got both the P2000 and the P2000sk. Amazing guns and accurate as well. I went with them as I am a lefty as well.
I reviewed the P2000SK for Women & Guns magazine last year.
Loved the feel of the LEM trigger. The specimen I shot had a trigger that weighed around 2 to 2 1/2 pounds through most of the pull, and broke at around 8 pounds.
The magazine release gave me some trouble, because in my hands it tended to seesaw and catch on the outer edges. I fixed it by using a downward pinching motion instead of just pushing it down with trigger finger or thumb.
The extended grip base was cushy and should have been comfy, but it squished my fingers too much. I have medium-large hands for a female, and am used to wrapping my pinkie around the grip base on short-gripped guns.
The interchangeable grip panels were great.
Biggest gripe? That the "lock out safety device" -- integral lock -- is in a stupid stupid place. It is at the inside-back of the magazine well. This means that the most natural seeming method of locking or unlocking the thing is by flipping the gun over, pointing it directly at yourself, and inserting the tiny little key into the nearly invisible little hole at the back of the magazine well. You cannot easily see the spot to insert the key unless the gun is pointed in your general direction. This is A Very Bad Thing. Even if you've just allegedly unloaded the gun, it's still A Very Bad Thing.
Overall, I really liked the look and feel of the gun. It was accurate and reliable and obviously reeked of quality. Even that (stupid stupid stupid) location for the integral lock wasn't a deal killer -- after all, you don't have to use that lock.
pax
Loved the feel of the LEM trigger. The specimen I shot had a trigger that weighed around 2 to 2 1/2 pounds through most of the pull, and broke at around 8 pounds.
The magazine release gave me some trouble, because in my hands it tended to seesaw and catch on the outer edges. I fixed it by using a downward pinching motion instead of just pushing it down with trigger finger or thumb.
The extended grip base was cushy and should have been comfy, but it squished my fingers too much. I have medium-large hands for a female, and am used to wrapping my pinkie around the grip base on short-gripped guns.
The interchangeable grip panels were great.
Biggest gripe? That the "lock out safety device" -- integral lock -- is in a stupid stupid place. It is at the inside-back of the magazine well. This means that the most natural seeming method of locking or unlocking the thing is by flipping the gun over, pointing it directly at yourself, and inserting the tiny little key into the nearly invisible little hole at the back of the magazine well. You cannot easily see the spot to insert the key unless the gun is pointed in your general direction. This is A Very Bad Thing. Even if you've just allegedly unloaded the gun, it's still A Very Bad Thing.
Overall, I really liked the look and feel of the gun. It was accurate and reliable and obviously reeked of quality. Even that (stupid stupid stupid) location for the integral lock wasn't a deal killer -- after all, you don't have to use that lock.
pax
gudel
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hmmm I have never pointed the HK at myself while using the key.
You're doing it all wrong pax
Here's how I would do it:
Right hand hold with USP9
I can even do it with left hand with P2000. Look ma, Left hand!
Obviously my face/body is facing the mag well as I'm standing behind the camera. No pointing gun to oneself
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I know. I also know that, of the four new shooters I handed the key & gun to, and told them where the keyhole was, three pointed it right at their bellybuttons while inserting the key.
(And yeah, I stopped all three ... but ...
)
It's a caution well worth mentioning, that's all.
pax
(PS -- please tell me that in the first pic, your finger is behind the trigger rather than on it!)
I know.
I also know that, of the four new shooters I handed the key & gun to, and told them where the keyhole was, three pointed it right at their bellybuttons while inserting the key.(And yeah, I stopped all three ... but ...
)It's a caution well worth mentioning, that's all.
pax
(PS -- please tell me that in the first pic, your finger is behind the trigger rather than on it!)
gudel
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Of course, you can see where the trigger is
besides, the gun was unloaded and safety was on.I put the magwell on the belly first time I ever bought the USP. I just dont like business end near me, whether it's my gun, specially other people's
If she wants an autoloader, the P2000 is great for lefties
I too am a lefty. I have a P2000 in .40S&W with the LEM trigger. Excellent handgun! Very high quality. She is a bit snappy with .40S&W, but so are most with standard .40S&W loads. The 9mm would also be a good option too (female or not).
The LEM trigger has a very-very long pull. If she is familiar with a shorter trigger travel, it takes a bit to get used to. However, the reset is very short.
The out of the box trigger pull was "cop safe" at around 8lbs. I sent mine to HK and had them lessen the pull to 5lbs with the optional lighter trigger. Note that its a good gun either way, I just wanted the trigger to be a bit lighter.
I would say that for lefties, the extra $200 you pay additional over a Glock is worth it for the lefty friendly controls.
Hopefully, its a bit easier to rack the slide on the 9mm than the .40 as my wife has trouble with my HK. She has very slender hands and wrists though. That said, she isn't much for autoloaders anyways and prefers her model 60 revolver.
I too am a lefty. I have a P2000 in .40S&W with the LEM trigger. Excellent handgun! Very high quality. She is a bit snappy with .40S&W, but so are most with standard .40S&W loads. The 9mm would also be a good option too (female or not).
The LEM trigger has a very-very long pull. If she is familiar with a shorter trigger travel, it takes a bit to get used to. However, the reset is very short.
The out of the box trigger pull was "cop safe" at around 8lbs. I sent mine to HK and had them lessen the pull to 5lbs with the optional lighter trigger. Note that its a good gun either way, I just wanted the trigger to be a bit lighter.
I would say that for lefties, the extra $200 you pay additional over a Glock is worth it for the lefty friendly controls.
Hopefully, its a bit easier to rack the slide on the 9mm than the .40 as my wife has trouble with my HK. She has very slender hands and wrists though. That said, she isn't much for autoloaders anyways and prefers her model 60 revolver.
Autolycus
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I always wondered what that key was for? 
I wont mess with the gun. I love it as it is and would probably get rid of that stupid lock though. Otherwise it is the perfect CCW gun in my opinion.
I wont mess with the gun. I love it as it is and would probably get rid of that stupid lock though. Otherwise it is the perfect CCW gun in my opinion.
gudel
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I was able to get $20 for my HK box, that has manual/lock and key Hey that's a box of ammo right there!
Hey that's a box of ammo right there!MadMercS55
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I can't really say enough good things about the P2000. Mine is a 9mm with the LEM trigger. Bought it last month and nearing the 2,000rnd mark. No malfunctions of any kind. Extremely accurate. I took me a little while to get use to the LEM trigger, but I'm fine now and actually prefer the LEM to the Glock system or conventional DA/SA.
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