Original GP100 and 686 (no dash)

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I've had my Ruger GP100 since 1998 (SS 4in) Love this gun. I just bought a new in box S&W 686 no dash thats never been fired. I sure love the look. Gonna shoot it this week. I'm not looking to have a debate of GP vs. 686 of which is better. Just looking to hear from fans of both or either as to your experience with them.
 
Never fired a GP100 but love everything about my 686 no dash 4".

Has yours had the factory mod. done to prevent primer flow into the firing pin hole?
If so it should have an M stamped near the model number.
I don't think they all needed it but some did.
 
IMG_1628 (2).JPG I've got a 4" blued and 5" stainless GP100 357s and like them both a lot. Many thousands of rounds through them in the last five years with no issues. If I were to buy another 357 it would be a pre lock 586 or 686.
 
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Had them both at the same time, as well as a Colt Trooper Mk.V, all with a 4" barrel. Had to sell two of them to pay for school.

The first one to go was the GP100. I was a huge fan of the Security Six and was sad to see it replaced by the GP100, but wanted to get one just to see if it was better in any way. I felt the Security Six was a solid, durable, well designed and built revolver. Balance and handling were great and the gun was a good value for the money. On the other hand the GP100 didn't seem as well balanced, like it was a little too big, awkward, and cumbersome for a .357. The trigger wasn't anything all that great and the whole thing just seemed like it wasn't as nicely finished, both inside and outside, as the gun it replaced.

Now came the hard part: choosing between the Colt and the S&W. In the Colt's favor was it was very well made (with a beautiful blued finish to it), had a decent trigger, and the factory grips were comfortable and fit my hand perfectly! The S&W was also tops in the build department, with everything coming together seamlessly. Without a doubt the one thing thing that convinced me that the Model 686 was the keeper was that it had, from the factory, the smoothest, lightest trigger from any other S&W I have ever come across!
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When pushed to significant velocities, the .357 is capable of decent enough results.

However a big bore .44 or (preferably) .45 will do the job even better with much less noise. The .357 is an obnoxiously loud cartridge.

All things being equal, bigger bullets tend to work better.
 
They are both great. I have both Smith's and Rugers and enjoy them both for what they bring to the table!
 
I had a early 6inch GP back in the 90’s. Something about it just never felt right. I have a model 66 that I still have. I would guess the Smith and Wesson from the same era would be better.
 
I have a 4” GP 100 and a 6” 686 , along with a few others . My 686 would be the last handgun that I would sell if times got tough . You can see a few of my others in my avatar .
 
Never fired a GP100 but love everything about my 686 no dash 4".

Has yours had the factory mod. done to prevent primer flow into the firing pin hole?
If so it should have an M stamped near the model number.
I don't think they all needed it but some did.
No sir. No modification.
 
No sir. No modification.

Once you get it to the range, if you have any problems with the primers flowing into the firing pin hole causing it to drag or lock up call S&W. They were at one time doing a mod to stop this. Not every 686 no dash has the problem so don't lose any sleep over it. If yours does I'm sure they will fix it. The repair has no effect on the trigger or function of the action, it's just an inserted bushing around the firing pin hole. It also does not effect the value of the gun.
 
I have a 3" 686 and a friend has a 3" GP100. We have had them at the range together a few times. His Ruger has an exceptional trigger pull, probably lighter than my 686, but the trigger pull is somewhat longer. Other than that they shoot about the same
 
I like my various S&W 357's better than my FiL's GP100.

However, the GP100 is nothing to sneeze at. It's accurate and reliable. My FiL shoots it better than any of his service pistols, even his CZ75.

HIs GP100 has a better than average trigger for that model, but my good Smiths' triggers are better.

Really it's win/win. They're both very nice revolvers.
 
My no-dash 686 was delivered to the Houston Police Academy, in very late 1983 or very early 1984, while I was in attendance. The actual dealer was Bailey’s House of Guns, a Smith & Wesson law enforcement distributor. I paid the police/government price, which I do not remember, all these years later. Like many Bangor Punta-era S&W revolvers, it was not all that well fitted and finished. The action was rough, and the barrel was screwed in such a way that the front sight leaned. It had been ordered sight unseen; no hand selection was possible. The S&W armorer declared that it was within spec. I traded or sold this 686, soon after I graduated from the academy.

I bought a Model 581 about the same time, from a normal gun store, at the normal prevailing price. Its action was MUCH smoother, and its sights lined-up nicely. Sadly, I turned my attention to bigger bores, and sold/traded this 581; one of my most lamentable firearms transactions. Lamentable, because such a wonderful revolver got away from me, and lamentable because my index fingers were/are not long enough to get enough finger on an N-Frame trigger, in DA mode, while properly holding the grip, so, I seriously wrecked my right thumb, hand, and wrist, firing too many big bore Magnums.

I bought my original-version GP100 in the very early Nineties. I hand-picked one with a smooth action. By then, I understood more about ergonomics and kinesiology, and had stopped shooting N-Frame and Redhawks. I was using single-stack .45 autos as duty pistols, by then, so the GP100 was intended to be a utility/outdoorsman sixgun. No handgun fits me as well as the GP100, with the original grip.

In 1993, I had become exasperated by the heel-clip mag release, on my early-type SIG P220, snagging the seat back fabric, causing a partial mag drop, so, I went to supply division, and traded my P220 duty holster, for a GP100 duty holster. My GP100 became my primary duty handgun for the next couple of years, a time that included my only line-of-duty shooting. (The full-velocity 125-grain Federal JHC lived-up to its stellar reputation for “stopping power!”) I later down-sized to K-Frame duty revolvers, to shed some weight on the duty belt.

In mid-1997, I returned to using auto-pistols as primary duty handguns, but well into this century, a few felons were still having the opportunity to see a GP100, in my hands, pointed at them. Usually, this was felony vehicle stops, when I had the time and opportunity to pull the sixgun from a Safepacker, that was slung on the headrest of the passenger seat. At longer range, I knew that I could shoot a GP100 with better consistency and accuracy; enough to make a difference. (Yes, in hindsight, I should have kept totin’ a sixgun, while on duty, until I retired.)

Long-stroke DA is my most stress-proof trigger skill, the least susceptible to “having a bad day.” It is also my least-perishable trigger skill, so, in these panic-demic times, with training opportunities limited. I am retired, so the 24-hour PD range is no longer accessible to me. My Glocks are locked-up, and my usual carry guns are my DA revolvers.

I still have my first GP100; it ain’t going anywhere, as long as I am competent to manage my own affairs. My avatar image shows this GP100, at the time I am typing this. The image was originally posed to show how I hold a GP100, high on the grip, to minimize muzzle flip. I captured the image on my iPhone, while standing concealed among tall plants, so as not to alarm the neighbors. The image just happened to be handy, in my iPad, when I finally got around to learning how to insert an avatar image. (I may change my avatar image, someday.)

I now have several more GP100 revolvers, 3” to 6” in barrel length. I still haven’t found any handgun, on the market, that fits me as well.
 
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Love the gp100, in my opinion it's the best "common" 357 revolver. Of course things like korth and manurhin are superior but for guns regular guys buy, it's my favorite.

Why?
Well, simplicity.

I'm not going to beat the old chevaline and talk about strength. I won't debunk the weight (boat anchor) thing and I don't need to talk about triggers, too many internet myths that have been utterly beaten to death, resurrected , beaten again and come back as the rebirth of the spaghetti monster (what does that even mean?!).

I will say, I've owned both. Today I only have the ruger. Mine is a 6" in stainless and it's magic. Easily my most fired gun. A range workhorse that has digested countless thousands of heavy loads with zero signs of wearing out. I even clean it sometimes. I much prefer the stub grip that can take any size or style of grip without bits of the frame protruding to limit what's possible. Easily disassembled and modular . robust and smooth (yes, very smooth). I'll give the nod to the 686 in the looks department but not by much. Rugers customer service leaves the other guy in the dust though, no comparison.

Either is great and will last a lifetime, it's all preference . I have no regrets about sticking with the gp100, wouldn't trade it for anything.

Enjoy those revolvers!!
 
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