"Original" Hydra-Shok .38SPL Ammo

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I was doing a search on this topic and I came across some old posts here in the archive. Just wondering if anyone else has any more on this ammo? I got some in the mid-'90s - living in Zimbabwe - and it came from a diplomat at one of the Western embassies. The packaging was very generic, almost stencilled, blue on white. What I was impressed with was the performance. 146gr full wadcutter lead hollowpoint, coming out of an old Colt Cobra at just over 600fps. Shot into flesh and bone - a stillborn calf - the expansion and penetration were both good, and the punishment on the ally-frame gun was minimal. Love to know more
 

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It's interesting how the outer edge of the expanded part is smooth and consistent (but for the one split). It's like the bullet would be pushing a sideways nickel through the target.
 
First, welcome to the forum

Just wondering if anyone else has any more on this ammo?

...Love to know more
I think I have maybe 10 rounds somewhere in my garage...might be only 6.

The original company was bought by Federal many years ago and the technology evolved quite a bit. The current evolution are the Federal HST rounds.

What would you like to know about them?
 
I bought some as a young cop. Back then it could be bought in plastic "Ammo Wallets". I bought some in both .38 Spl and .45 ACP.

I used some of it at the range, and then eventually gave what remained of it to my brother, who liked to collect odd ammunition. (I also gave him a couple 50-rd boxes of some DN BAT 9mm loads, when our firearms unit said they weren't authorized for use after I'd bought them.)
 
Ironically enough, I just finished watching an old training video made by Bill Wilson back in the late 90's where he talked about this ammo.

He had high praise for it except where muzzle flash was involved. As 9mmepiphany already said though, the technology has improved substantially since then. Most current production self-defense ammo today is going to have even better expansion, higher velocity and lower muzzle flash than those produced in the 90s.
 
I think I have some Hydra-Shok somewhere in an ammo box with various odds and ends ammo in it. Still have a couple boxes of original Nyclad and Super Vel ammo too.
 
threo8

Those would be the very "Alberts' bullets I ask about once a year or so to see if a new member knows if there is anything like them.

Loved those old 500 count very heavy cardboard boxes. That 158 SWC you show next to the Hydro Shocks was my absolute favorite .38 Special bullet.

I came along a year to late to get what I really wanted from them., the 150 grain .30 cal "Shootzin Plinker" for my rifles. I do wish someone made a decent swaged .30 cal 150 dry film lube bullet these days.

Albers also made a 130 grain HS bullet for the 9x19mm that I though looked rather nice at the time.

I think that Scorpion red box in another post was where HS came from. My understanding was there were some legal/ business issues between them and Alberts.

As to other folks posts.... I loved the way SuperVel made my .380s "Talk" and back in the day a lot of folks thought their 140 semi jacketed .38 Special loads were the answer to everything.

There have been some weird bullets out there, and that is for certain. Anyone remember "Pin Grabbers?"

-kBob
 
kBob

I remember those Pin Grabber bullets; weren't their "teeth" like serrations primarily for use in Bowling Pin matches?
 
yep the teeth were supposed to grab a bowling pin. I shot a number of pins off center with RNL and with Pin Grabbers. Never could tell if it really made a deference, but in that kind of game/match, whatever makes you feel better is a good thing.

I only had the ones those folks sent me for a review in a magazine, never bought any.

Twas around the time I took Ayoob's LFI1 and he was all hot for using factory loads with standard bullets as much like the local LEOs as possible. Those teeth seemed like an invitation to draw unwanted attention if used for self defense.

Sometimes I wish Davis was still doing the Pin Matches I a big way. I think it pushed folks to be fast and accurate. Did tend to get very game gunny though.

Other round besides HS that was much thought of by the press was the Glaser Safety Slug. I played with those in .380, 9x19, and .45ACP, but they were too expensive to practice with.

Back on HS. For a bit I carried Federal HS .45 ACP as my defense load. It just got very expensive to practice with as well.

My favorite for .45ACP was the old Speer 200 grain "Flying Ashtray" HP. I once had to do a mercy shot on a White tail along the road after a close encounter of the Ford kind. She was struggling but obviously down for the count and with her moving so much I went for the chest. One boom and out went the lights. When I dragged her completely off the road, there atop the grass right next to the pavement was the Speer bullet, now with an oval frontal area of .75x .60 and a bit of rib laying there with it. I rolled her over for a look and you literally COULD put two fingers in the exit through that rib. Gave me plenty of confidence in that bullet and load of Unique.

-kBob
 
Back in the day Federal Hydro- Shock was all the rage. 45 FHS was the top 45 ammo. 38 Spl. 129gr +P was supposed to be a good preformer also.
 
Before the day of the evil Black Talon was all the rage, the Exploder was the menace to all the human race.

This box was left over in a deceased friends hoard that since has been sold off.
 

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Don't have any actual experience with them

When my dad died in 2010, I went out to his spread in the high New Mexico desert, and retrieved his two revolvers. One of them, a Charter Arms Undercover made in 1966, was loaded with Hydra-Shoks, and I still have them. I didn't find any other .38 Special ammunition out there..
 
600 fps? Sure it may do its job, but that is slow. I was given some 357 180g black talons at work for my air weight backup gun about 5 years ago. Have since switched ammo due to impressive recoil and slow follow up shots.
 
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