Orlando CCW holder drops a criminal
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kd7nqb
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Glenn Beck did a great piece on this one last night, he has decided to call these types of stories DRT stories or Dead Right There stories and promises to share more of them as they come up. In my mind this is exactly the kind of stories that we need more coverage. The only part of the story that I can see that would get twisted against us is that the guy had to go back to his car to get his gun he was not actually carrying it, in theory that could get twisted into "You don't need to carry just keep it locked in your car".
I wouldn't even be surprised if he went down for this. Once he left the store, he disengaged himself from the situation and was NOT in fear for his life in any way. He made a conscious decision to re-engage by going back in. I think I might have just left, called 911 and been the best witness I could be. Hopefully, where it happened, they allow the use of lethal force to defend others from serious harm.
Gunnerpalace
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At least one customer at the Kangaroo convenience store is out of touch with reality.
qajaq59
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He had to do what he did and it was legal. But I'm sure he would have preferred not having to do it.
Luckily for that clerk he was there and armed. Now the clerk can go home to his family again instead of to the morgue.
Luckily for that clerk he was there and armed. Now the clerk can go home to his family again instead of to the morgue.
dcal
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Surveillance video of the incident.
Sato Ord
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Here's a little insider info from some LEO friends of mine.
The case is "under investigation", but the police have pretty much turned the whole thing over the the States Attorney as per Florida Law. The cops don't expect that any charges will ever be filed against the guy who pulled the trigger, and most of them have no real problem with the way it went down.
As far as the guy being sued, good luck with that. The law in Florida makes it illegal for a person, or his heirs, to profit from something that happened, such as being injured, during the commission of a felony. Not only is the scum bag hosed, his family doesn't have a leg to stand on in a wrongful death suit either.
The only real problem I have with the whole thing is that one of the local news programs showed a copy of the gun owners receipt of purchase and touted it as his "GUN REGISTRATION". There is no "gun registration" in Florida. In fact, it's illegal to maintain a list of gun owners for any purpose in Florida. I wish these people would read Florida Statute 790 before they start running their mouths about things they don't know about, especially if they are going to report their gibberish as fact.
The case is "under investigation", but the police have pretty much turned the whole thing over the the States Attorney as per Florida Law. The cops don't expect that any charges will ever be filed against the guy who pulled the trigger, and most of them have no real problem with the way it went down.
As far as the guy being sued, good luck with that. The law in Florida makes it illegal for a person, or his heirs, to profit from something that happened, such as being injured, during the commission of a felony. Not only is the scum bag hosed, his family doesn't have a leg to stand on in a wrongful death suit either.
The only real problem I have with the whole thing is that one of the local news programs showed a copy of the gun owners receipt of purchase and touted it as his "GUN REGISTRATION". There is no "gun registration" in Florida. In fact, it's illegal to maintain a list of gun owners for any purpose in Florida. I wish these people would read Florida Statute 790 before they start running their mouths about things they don't know about, especially if they are going to report their gibberish as fact.
Oh really? Maybe you missed where some news station put up a list of EVERY concealed carry permit holder on the website a few years ago. Anyone can get that list by sending a letter to Tallahassee under Florida's freedom of information act. Not the same as gun registration, but it sure let everyone know who definitively DID own guns because who's going to have a carry permit and not own at least one hand gun?
Deanimator
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If HE thought that, then why didn't HE "stop the robber without pulling the trigger."
Obviously he didn't have an alternative... or he was just an egg sucking coward. I vote for the latter.
qajaq59
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People have to remember that Florida is in the Original USA.
You know, the place where the common man still has Rights.
You know, the place where the common man still has Rights.
dagger dog
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Black Shoes = Black Gun?
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texas bulldog
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good shoot.
thread title is a little misleading, but this is exactly the kind of story we need to get more publicity. less biased reporting would be nice, and i'd be inclined to keep my mouth shut if i were the shooter. but overall, this was a welcome read...
thread title is a little misleading, but this is exactly the kind of story we need to get more publicity. less biased reporting would be nice, and i'd be inclined to keep my mouth shut if i were the shooter. but overall, this was a welcome read...
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One hand on the phone, one on the gun, bad guy behind the counter beating a woman.. couldn't have a cleaner shoot.
Idiot. Like to see what he'd think if he was the one getting his head beat in.
Idiot. Like to see what he'd think if he was the one getting his head beat in.
oneounceload
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The video should not only back up his story, but exonerate him from prosecution. He acted as a Good Samaritan.
He should sue the criminal's family for the psych help he'll need. The news showed him really distraught after it.
He should sue the criminal's family for the psych help he'll need. The news showed him really distraught after it.
divemedic
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At the time I began the thread, the press was reporting that the shooter had a permit. That was changed in later reporting.
This video should be shown to anyone claiming that gun carriers just want to be a badass. This poor guy was clearly broken up over the fact that he had to shoot someone, but because he was prepared to do so, he probably saved the clerks life. I hope he doesn't let it eat him up too bad. He's a hero in my book.
Sato Ord
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Yeah, I know what you mean. We wrote an e-mail to them complaining about that and they just said that basically they'd do what they thought was good to further the plot.
I especially hated the one where the cop stops the guy who is driving a motor cycle and asks if he can look in the saddle bag. He finds a revolver and the first words out of the guys mouth are "That's registered" (bogus nonsense number one), so the cop says "It's a concealed weapon and you're coming down town" (bogus nonsense number two because, as it was pointed out in this thread, it's legal to carry a weapon in an enclosed compartment - which includes motor cycle saddle bags - even if it's loaded with one in the chamber).
Yeah, I like CSI Miami, but I'm only willing to suspend disbelief so far. I may have to go back to spending my Monday evenings reading at this rate. I wish they would require that the writers know a little about the law in the state the show is based. It's probably written in California, and then the scripts are sent to the set in Miami.
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I don't, the BG response could have been to pull a gun, charge him, hold the girl hostage etc.....
KBintheSLC
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Typical of the anti-gun, criminal-sympathizing crowd. They would rather let you be a victim than turn the criminal into the "victim". Frankly, I find those types to be of equal or greater repugnance as the swine they defend.
I think thats a bad idea from a tactical standpoint. The violent felony was already under way... he had every legal right to open fire under current State law. Issuing verbal warnings just gives the attacker time to respond.
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