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Sullyman

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Here's the deal. I have been looking at the Sp101 and like the feel. I have $600 +- to spend.
Back ground, I have a couple of S&W K frames I like and a Single six i like. Thinking of a wheel gun for the new purchase. I am partial to Smiths, although I like the SP101 as well.

Any suggestions along those lines? Looking at .357/.38 spl

Your thoughts appreciated. Am i missing any options?
 
I've owned three SP's and they are great revolvers but personally I find them to heavy to carry and prefer a much lighter edc ,as a target gun,IMO even the three inch doesn't make a very good range gun either. I've never tried a Taurus/Rossi and stick with Ruger or Smith and have had no issues with them ...you may consider a GP or 686 both are considered top shelf revolvers and offer several models to choose from
 
I have a model 60 Talo Smith and Wesson 38/357, and a DAO sp101.

I like both, but I prefer the Ruger, not a huge difference between the two, except for the price.
 
A Blackhawk and a bunch of ammo. You've got the DA side covered with your K frames and you like your Single Six. You will love the Blackhawk and the extra cash for ammo. A blued Blackhawk retails around $450 new.
 
Are you looking for a snubby to carry?

A 2.5 or 3" 686+ would make you smile I'm sure. If you want a 5 shot like the SP101 a S&W 640 would work nicely.

-Jake
 
I crack up every time someone claims that an SP 101 is too heavy to carry. Priceless.
 
I crack up every time someone claims that an SP 101 is too heavy to carry. Priceless.

It isn't "too heavy" to carry, but it is a pretty substantial hunk of steel to be lugging around on a belt, day in and day out, especially given that you're only getting 5 rounds for all the effort. Might as well just carry a fully loaded G19, IMO.
I love my SP, and toted it sporadically, and it wasn't a real bother, but I eventually started pocket-carrying a S&W Airweight, and never looked back (it's in my pocket right now, and I'm only wearing sweat pants).
You seem to have a pretty low standard for what might be considered "priceless". :rolleyes:
 
I don't know what you shoot in the Airweight, but the SP101 3+" is already marginal in weight to handle 357 Magnum. If it is "too heavy", then the question is - for what? -. I think of it as well suited to 38 Special +P but punishing in moderate to heavy 357 loads.

Complaints about the SP101 as a belt carry gun are probably going to come from someone who will not dress to conceal. If your pants waist is up where it belongs, and you have a good gun belt and high ride holster, you should forget you are even wearing the little gun.
 
SP101 feels great in my hand, but I figured for the size and heft, a 6-shot makes more sense.
Love the 3" barrel in K-frame or the old Ruger six series.
 
I carried my SP101 3" for most of the Fall. They are not pocket revolvers, but with a good holster, they ain't that bad. But, for an alternative, a S&W model 10 2" barrel and round butt.
 
SP101 feels great in my hand, but I figured for the size and heft, a 6-shot makes more sense.
Love the 3" barrel in K-frame or the old Ruger six series.

That's why my second SP101 was a 327 Federal Magnum six shooter.
 
Sullyman

What are you looking to do with your new revolver? Home defense, casual plinking/target shooting, truck gun, concealed carry? A Ruger SP101 can cover most of those uses if you're looking into more of an all-around application versus a more specific purpose. For myself I like my S&W Model 686 for most uses, a Model 10 for home defense, and a Model 649 and a Model 638 for concealed carry. I also have a Ruger Single Six for plinking.
 
MIL-DOT, I am one of those old guys who actually believes that if you are convinced that you need more than 5 rounds then you must plan on missing a lot.
 
Ruger Clapp...

If you want a factory stock DA revolver, Id look at the new line of Wiley Clapp GP series revolvers. They have great features and will hold up in value. They may be slightly more than $600-$650.00 but you'll be glad you got it. :)

If you want a stock GP or SP101 revolver, you can upgrade it with custom features from www.GeminiCustoms.com . They are highly rated and can really give you a outstanding wheel gun.

I've owned 2 Ruger revolvers, a surplus NIB(new in box) GPNY .38spl and a DA only .357magnum 2.25" SP101. Both were great and I trusted my life/safety with them.
 
If you want a factory stock DA revolver, Id look at the new line of Wiley Clapp GP series revolvers. They have great features and will hold up in value. They may be slightly more than $600-$650.00 but you'll be glad you got it. :)

If you want a stock GP or SP101 revolver, you can upgrade it with custom features from www.GeminiCustoms.com . They are highly rated and can really give you a outstanding wheel gun.

I've owned 2 Ruger revolvers, a surplus NIB(new in box) GPNY .38spl and a DA only .357magnum 2.25" SP101. Both were great and I trusted my life/safety with them.
There is now also a Wiley Clapp SP101. I just wish it was a 3" and not a 2.25".
 
MIL-DOT, I am one of those old guys who actually believes that if you are convinced that you need more than 5 rounds then you must plan on missing a lot.

I try to keep my cynicism in check, but I can relate to your sentiment. Having never experienced an actual shooting situation except in bad dreams that I remember, I have to stop at being skeptical sometimes, when a person courageously states how straightforward a shooting would be, how many rounds are needed, or how a small gun is all one needs. I can go overboard in being prepared or defining what it is I should fear.

The scale of typical (my impression) carry guns tends to yield 5 shots in a revolver. To me, that makes it inadequate for an undefined shooting situation but is better than the big Glock Model 22 I left at home as a bedroom gun with flashlight and laser on the rail, night sights ... chambered and ready plus an extra magazine. It's locked in its box in the day time. The best I can do with a revolver is carry a speed strip, assuming I can shoot and reload from cover. I rotate a mix of 5 and 6 shot revolvers, sometimes adding a crossdraw, dressing accordingly.
 
Posted by Drail:
MIL-DOT, I am one of those old guys who actually believes that if you are convinced that you need more than 5 rounds then you must plan on missing a lot.
How many times do you think you might miss in a violent surprise encounter against a fast moving assailant, shooting very fast while under stress?

How many hits do you think may be required to stop him (remember, you have to hit something vital, not just "center mass")?

How many of them do you think there may be (considering that, based on a couple of data samples, if one is attacked, chances are greater than even that there will likely be two or more)?

Do you want any kind of a safety margin?

If you carry five; if the answer to the last one is no, and that does not sound prudent; if there are two or more of them and you must use deadly force on two; if it takes two shots to stop an assailant before they harm you (that could be on the low side); and if you would hit three times out of ten and if you can stop shooting immediately after scoring an effective hit on something vital; you will come out unscathed three times out of one hundred encounters.

That's very basic statistical analysis.

The number goes up rapidly with additional rounds. Colt's ads for "that all important sixth round" really meant something.

I moved my Centennial to a backup role immediately after going through the numbers (thanks to member JohnKSa, who ran them), and after realizing that the fact that I was unlikely to need the gun on any given day was completely irrelevant to the decision process.

I do like the SP 101, a lot; my wife has one with a three inch barrel, a bobbed hammer, and CT grips. But I would really, really rather have more capacity. We do, when we are together.

My carry gun holds 7+1; that improves the odds markedly.
 
Posted by Drail: How many times do you think you might miss in a violent surprise encounter against a fast moving assailant, shooting very fast while under stress?

How many hits do you think may be required to stop him (remember, you have to hit something vital, not just "center mass")?

How many of them do you think there may be (considering that, based on a couple of data samples, if one is attacked, chances are greater than even that there will likely be two or more)?

Do you want any kind of a safety margin?

If you carry five; if the answer to the last one is no, and that does not sound prudent; if there are two or more of them and you must use deadly force on two; if it takes two shots to stop an assailant before they harm you (that could be on the low side); and if you would hit three times out of ten and if you can stop shooting immediately after scoring an effective hit on something vital; you will come out unscathed three times out of one hundred encounters.

That's very basic statistical analysis.

The number goes up rapidly with additional rounds. Colt's ads for "that all important sixth round" really meant something.

I moved my Centennial to a backup role immediately after going through the numbers (thanks to member JohnKSa, who ran them), and after realizing that the fact that I was unlikely to need the gun on any given day was completely irrelevant to the decision process.

I do like the SP 101, a lot; my wife has one with a three inch barrel, a bobbed hammer, and CT grips. But I would really, really rather have more capacity. We do, when we are together.

My carry gun holds 7+1; that improves the odds markedly.
I can agree and disagree with that sentiment, History cannot be forgotten , revolvers have been in the holsters of both lawmen and outlaws for the better part of 178 years since 1836, back then we know the handgun played a much more prevalent role in warfare than it does today. How many men defended thenselves from hordes of apaches and comanches with nothing more than the colt or smith at their side? Yes self defense is not warfare , but it is still a battle for your life therefore dont discount the man with only five shots , sure not everyone is going to be a natural jim cirillo or bill jordan over night but neither were the frontiersman who settled the land . Keep in mind that many natives were on horse back and the men of the time had to be of at least a decent if not sharpshooter to defend the wagon, so to speak . Even in moden times the snubnose has been used many times over to defend even against multiple attakcers, relook into Bernhard Goetz.
 
Posted by Barry the Bear:
How many men defended thenselves from hordes of apaches and comanches with nothing more than the colt or smith at their side?
How many men were in a company?

Did not Captain Samuel Walker request that Colt increase the number of chambers from five to six? How many of those six-shot percussion revolvers did each man carry? Would even one of them have carried those guns had the Colt Automatic Pistol, Model of 1911 been available?

Wasn't a Henry rifle the weapon of choice after it came out?

...sure not everyone is going to be a natural jim cirillo...
Jim carried four revolvers, and after he retired he recommended carrying two Glocks.
 
Posted by Barry the Bear:
First jim carried three [revolvers]...
I stand corrected. Cirillo carried two Model 10 revolvers on his hip (he was limited to Model 10s or to Colt Official Police revolvers). He also carried a six-shot snub-nose Colt revolver for backup. His fourth carry gun was a PPK. But the two man stake-out squad teams also had a shotgun.

When he was no longer limited to the revolvers, Jim carried two Glocks.

... and its been documented to where it was 15-20 men fending off parties of 50 or more natives.
Surely you do not believe that each man used only a five shot revolver.

I once carried a five shot revolver as a primary defensive tool. I had had no defensive training whasotever; I had formed too many ideas from screen fiction; and I had mistakenly based my risk mitigation strategy on cumulative rather than conditional probabilities.
 
get the snubnosed taurus 66 7 shot 357.
get the 4 inch barrelled 66.

what says "peace love and harmony" like a 7 shot 357?
 
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