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I just recieved an email from a good friend living near Springfield, Mass. The following is from his local newspaper. He told me they just celebrated Patriots Day, yesterday, in commemoration of the Revolutionary War.

These proposed articles will create unreasonable restrictions on law-abiding gun owners in the neighboring town of Longmeadow. Please attend the town meeting to support residents in Longmeadow and to prevent the proposed articles below from coming to your town!

ARTICLE 29.

Anyone possessing a firearm, rifle, or shotgun in any building owned by the town, or on recreation area, conservation area, or other grounds owned by the town, would pay a fine of $300. This proposed bylaw would prohibit anyone from possessing a firearm (defined under state law as a pistol, revolver, or similar weapon), rifle, or shotgun in a town building or on town property.

ARTICLE 30.

This article would require a person applying for, or seeking to renew, a license to carry a firearm or a firearm identification card with the Chief of Police or Police Department to describe in writing each firearm, rifle or shotgun possessed by the prospective license holder. Such description would include the serial number, make, model, and caliber of each firearm, rifle, or shotgun. Whoever fails to provide a description for each firearm, rifle, or shotgun shall pay a fine of $300 for each firearm, rifle, or shotgun which has not been so described. The bylaw would also require applicants to certify their compliance with the Massachusetts law that requires firearms, rifles, and shotguns to be stored in locked containers or to be similarly secured.

ARTICLE 31.

This article would ban assault weapons in the town of Longmeadow. Anyone possessing an assault weapon or a large capacity feeding device would pay a fine of $300 for each day such an assault weapon or large capacity feeding device is possessed. The possessor of an assault weapon or a large capacity feeding device shall pay a separate fine for each assault weapon and each large capacity feeding device.

Massachusetts state law prohibits the possession of assault weapons and large capacity feeding devices (defined as devices capable of holding certain amounts of ammunition) but provides an exception for assault weapons and large capacity feeding devices lawfully possessed on September 13, 1994. This bylaw would eliminate this exception and prohibit all assault weapons and large capacity feeding devices in Longmeadow. The effective date of September 1, 2016 would force owners of assault weapons and large capacity feeding devices to remove them from the town of Longmeadow.

Remember, your town could be next. Once again, please attend the meeting on May 10 to fight these draconian proposals from happening in your neighboring town!
 
Just your normal incrementalism, why worry about it? Next step is to insert "or within a thousand feet" of said properties. I mean, they did that with schools, didn't they?

I wish they would insert a clarification as follows "...prohibit [STRIKE]anyone[/STRIKE] any law-abiding person from possessing..." where appropriate. Gee whiz, let's have these laws be realistic, right?

But this forum is for laws as they exist (or proposed, I suppose), not as they ought to be.

Terry
 
Please provide a source other than " a friend "

It appears that Article 29 and 30 have nothing to do with guns in MA.
 
After Morton Grove, Illinois, passed a "no guns" ordinance, the burglary rate increased in notable fashion. After Kennesaw, Georgia, passed an (unenforced) ordinance requiring that all homeowners be armed, the burglary rate went to near-zero. That's public record in many newspapers.
 
The problem is that different places come to very different conclusions. One state looks at violent crime and says we must empower the people and another thinks they should empower the state. The sad and difficult part is that in both examples the state becomes more empowered.

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Does MA, have State preemption laws in place to prevent this sort of thing?

Unfortunately, they do not. See this state by state list on preemption:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state

Gun laws in the United States regulate the sale, possession, and use of firearms and ammunition. State laws (and the laws of Washington, D.C. and the U.S. territories) vary considerably, and are independent of existing federal firearms laws, although they are sometimes broader or more limited in scope than the federal laws. A minority of U.S. states have created assault weapon bans that are similar to the expired federal assault weapons ban.
 
Thank god I live in the actual United States.
I'm sorry - didn't your state recently pass a ban on all standard-capacity magazines?

This whole, "I'm better than you because I live in a slightly less-oppressive state" attitude is, in part, what allows the camel's nose under the tent. Before you know it, what passes in CA, then NJ, then MA, then CO - suddenly starts to look "reasonable" to the rest of the country. Before you know it, it's 1994 (or 1986, or 1968, or 1934) all over again.

What was it that Ben Franklin said?
 
i'm sorry - didn't your state recently pass a ban on all standard-capacity magazines?

This whole, "i'm better than you because i live in a slightly less-oppressive state" attitude is, in part, what allows the camel's nose under the tent. Before you know it, what passes in ca, then nj, then ma, then co - suddenly starts to look "reasonable" to the rest of the country. Before you know it, it's 1994 (or 1986, or 1968, or 1934) all over again.

What was it that ben franklin said?


Edit: deleted comment. I agree with above, but my post didn't contribute to the legal section
 
The high capacity magazine ban is a complete joke, the local sheriff's won't enforce it and it is extremely easy to circumvent.

This isn't like some states that would put you in prison for defying this law.
 
Try to order a mag from a larger store online. Joke or not it has effects which will only grow over time. The ban was the deciding factor in my recent Scar vs AR10 choice.

Sure it is easy to circumvent and only a misdemeanor if caught, it is still an outright ban on a necessary component.
 
Thank god I live in the actual United States.


COLORADO
Voted for Republican president in four of last seven elections; two Democratic senators; four out of seven House representatives are Republican; two out of past three governors have been Democrats; Democratic-controlled Legislature.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/221721-how-red-or-blue-is-your-state

I would say CO has become purple. Not red or blue. Still better off than where I live. My state is blue.

To the OP
MA and most of the NE states are going to become unlivable for 2A supporters. States rights are being exercised with enthusiasm. Don't look for any change in the near future. SC won't save your friend.
 
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The high capacity magazine ban is a complete joke, the local sheriff's won't enforce it and it is extremely easy to circumvent.

This isn't like some states that would put you in prison for defying this law.

Give it time. It's the law. It will end up being enforced.

I'd be careful about flaunting it publicly, there will be an example made at some point.
 
Yep, you can hear all those 10 rounds magazines being fired off in the forest around here, lol.....they're 30 rounders, all day long.

Irrespective of the gun laws, I'll never leave Colorado.....world class recreation opportunities out here.
 
The high capacity magazine ban is a complete joke, the local sheriff's won't enforce it and it is extremely easy to circumvent.

This isn't like some states that would put you in prison for defying this law.

Go to your LGS and ask if they have a Ruger American Pistol in 9mm. They do not. Because until Ruger gets around to making special mags plugged at 14, they are illegal in CO.

Every time another Californian moves to Boulder, or another tract of housing goes up in Arapahoe County we get that much closer to CA, NY, NY, NJ, CT. So, it seems inadvisable to throw stones.
 
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Meh, I dont live in Mass or Cali so I dont really care. You get the politicians you elect.
Talk about missing the point :rolleyes:. No, YOU get the (national) politicians that OTHERS elect. We're dying the proverbial death by a thousand cuts.
What has happened in CA,NY,NJ,MA,etc. IS coming to the rest of the country, if it isn't stopped and rescinded in those states. You're not "safe", regardless of how it may seem at the moment.
 
This one has ceased to be a discussion about the law or a specific bill.

Accordingly, closed.
 
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