Our Right-to-carry Is Under Attack!

[Feud]

Well I'm seeing everybody talked themselves into thinking it's wrong without knowing what it's all about.

I encourage you to one day learn that educated, rational people may hold a different viewpoint from your own without somehow being confused about the issue. Dismissing others opinions as being a result of ignorance simply because they are different from your own is a good way to foster ignorance of your own point of view, since others will make every effort to avoid having the unpleasant conversation necessary to learn it.

Then what are you going to do?

Vote with my feet, and take my business elsewhere. Or just shop there anyway, I'm not too worried.

 

[wcb]

I dont think the ignorance lies with me and if so many of you think the NRA is doing such a bad job and is so ignorant of the laws, if I were you I would quit the NRA. Either that or I think all of you ought to bring the NRA's legal team up to speed with your legal wisdom and show then the error in their ways.

Sorry I bought up the action to infringe on your rights. I just see the Constitution being changed to the point that now it's all but illegal to be a Christian in a Christian Nation, and as if the very words read in amendments, homosexuality and abortion are Constitutional rights. So if you think the second amendment cant become ignored for it's content such that it will soon say you have NO right to own a gun; I would categorically say that's your ignorance.

I give up here.

 

[Jeff White]

I dont want Walmart telling me I cant carry my gun today because I plan to stop at their store and then if Walmart gets their way, everybody has the door wide open to say the same thing then next thing you know you can carry a gun but you just cant take it anywhere. Then what are you going to do?

Exactly what Feud suggests. Don't give them my business. Boycotts and the threat of boycotts has worked before. When it affects their bottom line they'll change their tune.

I'm not buying into the idea that we need to make anyone give up his private property rights, not even for my own cause. And the argument that property rights are already gone so what would this hurt is really a non starter with me.

Jeff

 

[Randy in Arizona]

Here is a list of some of the fine folks supporting this wonderful 'legal' action.

If any of you people do business with anyone on the list you might visit with them about the error of their ways.

• ABB Inc.
• American Bar Association
• American Society for Industrial Security
• Atlantic Scientific Corp.
• Baptist Health Care
• Bulova Technologies EMS, LLC
• Carr Riggs & Ingram LLC
• Central Florida Human Resource Association
• Coastal Mechanical Services
• Florida Retail Federation
• Healthsouth
• HR Florida State Council of the Society for Human Resource Management
• Kitchen & Bath Center
• Len-Tram, Inc.
• LTC Consulting, Inc.
• Manatee Glens Corporation
• Members First Credit Union of Florida
• Palm Beach County Chapter of Risk & Insurance Management Society (RIMS)
• Pricesmart, Inc.
• Richards Paint Mfg. Co., Inc.
• Risk & Insurance Management Society of Palm Beach County
• Sarasota-Manatee Human Resources Association
• Sea Pines Rehab Hospital
• South Florida Hospital Association
• Southwest Florida Water Management District
• Spectrum Microwave, Inc.
• Voyager Business Concepts, Inc.
• Webster University
• Wilson Technology Group, Inc.
• W.S. Badcock Corporation

 

[Autolycus]

Said WCB:
Sorry I bought up the action to infringe on your rights. I just see the Constitution being changed to the point that now it's all but illegal to be a Christian in a Christian Nation, and as if the very words read in amendments, homosexuality and abortion are Constitutional rights. So if you think the second amendment cant become ignored for it's content such that it will soon say you have NO right to own a gun; I would categorically say that's your ignorance.

If homosexuality is not a consitutionally protected right then neither is heterosexuality. The Bill of Rights does not address these issues directly but lets them fall under the right to pursue happiness. Abortion was commonplace in the founding fathers times. They just called the abortionists midwives. And the USA is not a Christian nation. It is a secular nation and I thank the creator (not god) for that. But these are issues that have nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment per se nor do they have anything to do with the infringement of property rights.

For all these people who are complaining that Walmart doesn't want them to carry they are simply wrong. Walmart does not necessarily want guns on their property. Nor do they want people telling them what to do, just as you don't. For example WPB does not want the government telling him he has to accept gays or non-Christians but he does want the government to force Walmart to accept him. That is hypocrisy at its finest.

 

[rbernie]

Somehow I find that hard to believe; this has been nothing but a judge and jury argument instead of what the NRA is pleading for and warning about.

My allegiance is to common sense and rational thought - not to the NRA. Sometimes the NRA displays these characteristics, and sometimes they don't.

I do find it interesting, wcb, that you're more interested in beating your chest about your contributions to the NRA-ILA over this issue that actually debating whether or not the NRA is correct. Shill for the NRA all you want, but sooner or later you're either going to have to address the issue itself or folk will NOT take you seriously.

For example WPB does not want the government telling him he has to accept gays or non-Christians but he does want the government to force Walmart to accept him. That is hypocrisy at its finest.

Pretty much so.

I find it incredible that so many don't see it, so steeped as they are in their own self-interests.

 

[brighamr]

this thread wins the contest for most quotes per page... and hasn't the private property thing been discussed a couple dozen times this month?

 

[Sage of Seattle]

And the argument that property rights are already gone so what would this hurt is really a non starter with me.

And the argument that this form of discrimination is somehow different than every other form of discrimination is really a non starter with me.