Outback Steakhouse in Fairfax does NOT want our money

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I am still of the belief, that regardless of what the law states, or what signs on the door state, I am the sole arbiter of whats right for me regarding carrying a handgun. Carry concealed, and its not a problem.
A lot of us old timers carried with no permit at all for many years, before the States 'granted' us the right to protect our selves and our famlies.

Still, I agree 100% with your actions. I think you did just right when you walked out, and took your trade to another establishment. :)
 
Still, I agree 100% with your actions. I think you did just right when you walked out, and took your trade to another establishment.
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I agree. I am also a VCDL member. Let's get that restaurant bill passed this next session.
 
I thought Outback, Applebees and Lonestar were all owned by the same parent company?
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No, they are not. Outback is owned by OSI, which also owns Carrabba's Italian Grill (which is where I work as an Asst. Kitchen Mgr), Bonefish Grill, Fleming's Steakhouse, and several other, smaller, regional operations.

As far as I know, there is no OSI corporate policy on the carrying of firearms in the restaurants. However, that is not to say the individual franchise proprietors don't have their own policy. Of course, here in TN, we can't carry into a restaurant which serves alcohol anyways.

And, on the subject of Outbacks' freshness, they are a "fresh house", as are Bonefish and Carrabba's. Nothing comes from a can. All of the sauces are prepared in house, daily. The steaks are NOT frozen. They are simply packed in their own blood in plastic bags. If you don't like meat packed in plastic with its' own blood, I'd suggest you stop buying meat at the grocery store, because it's also packed in plastic. Now, Applebee's microwaves a lot of stuff and their meat is frozen, but not OSI's subsidiaries.

Frank
 
JB8, do you live in VA? Does your state allow Open Carry? Because, obviously you did not read, where the OP lives, the law states you must open carry in an establishment that serves alcohol...did you miss that? Now is it more tactical to open carry, or leave your gun in the car or at home? Exactly.
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Nope don't live in VA and I'm not aware of the backasswards laws there. There was so much misinformation about Outback in this thread I stopped reading the chicken little, sky is falling rhetoric to save I.Q. points. So yes I did not see that post. Glad I don't live in VA, that's all I can say. To be honest I'm going to have to disagree with you about leaving it in the car. I'd almost rather have a good knife since I'd be worried about shooting in a crowded restaurant, not to mention I can't watch everyone at once as far as my person and my weapon is concerned. YMMV.


PX15. Good posting.

And, on the subject of Outbacks' freshness, they are a "fresh house", as are Bonefish and Carrabba's. Nothing comes from a can. All of the sauces are prepared in house, daily. The steaks are NOT frozen. They are simply packed in their own blood in plastic bags. If you don't like meat packed in plastic with its' own blood, I'd suggest you stop buying meat at the grocery store, because it's also packed in plastic. Now, Applebee's microwaves a lot of stuff and their meat is frozen, but not OSI's subsidiaries.
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Exactly, even the croutons are made daily. Target time from slaughter to the table is less than 3 weeks, the steaks never hit the freezer or as someone ignorantly put it, stored for months.

For those saying go to locally owned restaurants, hey I agree. I prefer mom and pop restaurants too, but usually because of the food. However on the basis that you are supposedly supporting the local economy more? No true.... Why? Because big chain restaurants consume more local services.... Floor/clean-up crews, bigger restaurants employ more people, buy/consume more local liquor, buy/consume more local produce, linen services, you should see what Outbacks spend alone on knife sharpening services, the list goes on and on. Do locally owned restaurants use some of these services? sure... but not on the scale an Outback, Lonestar, etc does. Try thinking outside the box.
 
Applebee's SUCKS!. Outback is OK, I go there mainly for the blooming onion. When I want a steak and am too lazy to make it myself, I go to Longhorn.

Open carry in a bar? Had to be written by a gun-a-phobe anti. It makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Target time from slaughter to the table is less than 3 weeks, the steaks never hit the freezer or as someone ignorantly put it, stored for months.
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Though, in many higher end steak houses, they purposely age their steaks for a varying amount of time. After aging, they cut off the crusty stuff that forms from the aging process and serve the middle. It gives it a more intense and concentrated flavor. Just don't perform a cardinal sin by covering it all up with steak sauce :barf:

They are simply packed in their own blood in plastic bags.
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Sounds like wet-aging to some degree (if they are vacuum packed). It'll be juicier and a bit more tender, but flavor isn't as concentrated as dry-aging.
 
Nope don't live in VA and I'm not aware of the backasswards laws there. There was so much misinformation about Outback in this thread I stopped reading the chicken little, sky is falling rhetoric to save I.Q. points. So yes I did not see that post. Glad I don't live in VA, that's all I can say.
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:scrutiny:

FYI, Virginia has some of the best CCW laws in the U.S. And just where do you reside? I'm betting it's some bastion of freedom like the PRK, MA, NJ, IL, etc.
 
FYI, Virginia has some of the best CCW laws in the U.S. And just where do you reside? I'm betting it's some bastion of freedom like the PRK, MA, NJ, IL, etc
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That's kind of what I was thinking. If I ever moved out of state, VA would be my choice. Wonderful place.
 
FYI, Virginia has some of the best CCW laws in the U.S. And just where do you reside?
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I guess I'm just spoiled by Colorado ... here we can carry anywhere except a select few Government buildings and anyplace with metal detectors.


So I can CCW at a restaurant that serves alcohol (heck, I can even have a drink or two as long as I stay below the legal limit ... just like driving my car).

As for Outback, I've never been impressed and have always been annoyed at the hour waits for a table (plus I grill a better steak at home ;) ).
 
Outback steakhouses here in central OK also do not want our business - they have up the "stupid signs" (no-gun signs, which demonstrate the owners are stupid). Interesting to know that this is controlled by the franchisee/proprietor, and not forced under the franchise contract from the corporate/franchisor. I encourage all fellow Okies to get their steaks elsewhere, and let Outback know why.
 
I wouldn't feel like you are being picked on if you're a licensed citizen openly carying per your state's laws and are asked to put it away. My friends and I have gone into restaurants open carrying with OUR BADGES on or next to the holster and still been asked to put them up or leave!!!! Just chalk it up to the person being an A1 pinhead that will only pollute the gene pool until they run into the first armed violent felon..... <RANT OFF>

Take Care, Be Safe and support those who support you,
Mike
 
In SC we can't carry in restaurants that serve alcohol anyway, but I certainly hope this isn't a corporate thing. Our Outback is really good most of the time. They're also one of the busiest ones in the company, according to the kitchen manager. Longhorn has some pretty good steaks too, but they've got nothing on my NY strip marinated in my secret sauce :neener:
 
So I can CCW at a restaurant that serves alcohol (heck, I can even have a drink or two as long as I stay below the legal limit ... just like driving my car).
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Interesting! In Texas, there is no legal minimum, meaning ANY alcohol in your blood can be argued against you even if you were defending your life.

Still, even if I lived in Colorado I think I would still practice that rule. No drinking when carrying. Even though it may be legal where you live, any alcohol in your blood if you should be unlucky enough to have to defend yourself with deadly force and you can bet the subject will come up at the trial.

Just my opinion! :rolleyes:

ChickenHawk
 
2 comments I've seen so far have stuck out.

1: (RE: open carry) "in your face"
2: Feeling picked on ...


WRT #1, I consider it in your face to make an issue out of people going about their own business; armed or not. If my gun does not meet with some other person's sensibilities, maybe those people ought to consider

Maybe I couldn't afford the brushed satin finish. Maybe the shark-skin leather holster was just a bit outside my price range. :mad:

So maybe those people ought to mind their own business.

As far as feeling picked on. I don't know that's it. I do know OP, and must say in addition to having very good double action trigger discipline, he's also thoughtful, intelligent, well reasoned, easy going family type guy with a good sense of humor.

I'm sure he hid his do rag & barrio colors before going into Outback :neener:

The big picture is that if we allow one restaurant to have a policy like this, we tacitly encourage others to think it's ok to do. It's not reasonable to expect to win each and every one of these situations either on site, or after the fact, but you win far more by opposing all of them vigorously, than by just chatting about it on THR...
 
> I guess I'm just spoiled by Colorado ... here we can carry anywhere except a select few Government buildings and anyplace with metal detectors.

Now if only they would prosecute parents who kill their kids in a jealous fit. :fire:
 
FYI, Virginia has some of the best CCW laws in the U.S. And just where do you reside? I'm betting it's some bastion of freedom like the PRK, MA, NJ, IL, etc.
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Hmmmm. I'll be the first to admit MA general gun laws, especially ones affected by our Attorney General are out of wack but our CCW laws are really not that bad unless you know something that I'm not aware of.

On the rare ocasion that I go to the Outback I carry concealed. That's not very often because we have places like The Beverly Depot, The Hardcover, and the Stockyard.

Regards
John
 
Anyone considered having a "Group Lunch" at that particular Outback?

I'm in the area and I'm up fer a steak.
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Well, it'd have to be a "Group Dinner" since we're not open for lunch. :D

If I wasn't in NC, I'd join you. :D
 
KONY - good for you. I have not been asked to leave mine in the car, yet, while open carrying in Virginia per state law, however I am prepared to do so. I told my wife this as well, and she at least says she'll be OK with it.

Hit em where it hurts - the bottom line. :)
 
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