Own an AR15 or AK? This guy thinks you shouldn't

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He claims to be a gun owner but calls those who own AR15's "sickos" and insinuates that they are Columbine murderers waiting to happen. Remind you of anyone?

I went ahead and emailed him, [email protected]

http://www.freep.com/article/20081126/SPORTS10/81126087/1048/sports

The extreme gun nuts, who think the Bill of Rights is limited to the Second Amendment, are panicked that a Barack Obama administration is going to take their firearms rights away. And the ignorant idealists who see guns as the root of all evil are hoping he will.

That’s not going to happen, although Obama might throw a sop to the idealists by pushing for some changes that will have no effect on 99% of the people who own guns.

Most of the idealists don’t know what they are talking about. They don’t know anything about guns nor how hopelessly ineffective gun laws are at curbing crime and gun violence.

The phrase “assault rifle” often shows up in this newspaper, and often in the context of people demanding that that their sale be outlawed. Those stories, obviously, were edited by people who don’t know that the guns in question almost never are real assault rifles, which, by definition, can be switched to fire consecutive rounds simply by holding back the trigger, i.e., a machine gun.

But it’s nearly impossible for the average Joe to have a machine gun in this country. A law passed in 1934 requires a thorough background investigation, justification and an expensive license to own one.

The people who edit those stories fail to understand that most of what they call “assault rifles” are no more deadly than a typical semiautomatic deer rifle, and at close range, they are less deadly than the semiautomatic shotguns used by pheasant and duck hunters.

What newspapers and television shows refer to as “assault rifles” are largely what the firearms trade calls “black guns,” civilian versions of military weapons.

These pseudo-assault rifles have a Rambo look that appeals to a certain segment of gun owners, and while they may fulfill some fantasies, the shooter still has to pull the trigger each time he wants to fire, just as with semiauto hunting and target rifles and shotguns.

I don’t use one because few pseudo-assault rifles are anywhere near as accurate as my bolt-action rifles or, for that matter, a 125-year-old, single-shot, black powder buffalo gun that I got chance to shoot last summer and could make 6-inch groups at 1,000 yards.

The quasi-military guns must satisfy some strange fantasies. While the people who buy them like to tout their utility, when I visit hunting camps, I rarely see people carrying them. Most are made in calibers like the .223 that are too light to be a good deer rifle, and since more than 90% of Michigan hunters only hunt deer, they don’t have much use for a gun like that.

And if you want something for home defense, nothing beats a semiautomatic shotgun at close range.

A major issue here is perception. The Rambo guns attract sickos who are responsible for tragedies like the Columbine massacre -- loonies for whom the militaristic-looking weapons represent the power and control absent from their sad lives.

When these nuts are caught or killed after a shooting rampage, the TV cameras are on hand to show police confiscating their wicked-looking pseudo-assault rifles and scare the heck out of people who know nothing about guns.

And there is no shortage of elected officials willing to fulminate against “assault rifles” if they think it will generate votes, even though banning these weapons is an exercise in futility because they account for only a tiny fraction of U.S. gun crimes.

After seeing several recent items on national television news shows about a big boom in gun sales following Obama’s election, I checked with a half-dozen Michigan gun shops, and the people who work in them hadn’t seen it.

They said there didn’t seem to be much of what they called “fear buying.” Most of what they did see was limited to “black guns” and people who think Obama might re-institute a Clinton-era ban on semiautomatic rifles with things like collapsible stocks, flash suppressors and oversized ammunition magazines.

In one large gun shop I visited, a couple dozen people were looking at deer rifles, shotguns and black powder rifles. I didn’t see one customer pick up any of the dozen or so pseudo-assault rifles nor military surplus guns on the racks.

Despite the dire warnings we’ve been listening to for decades, we have more gun rights today than we did even 10 years ago. Any Michigan resident who isn’t a criminal or demonstrably nuts has the right to carry a concealed weapon, and a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision confirmed that the Second Amendment guarantees us an individual right to own firearms.

One big problem when talking about guns in America is that the extremists on both sides drive the debate, as is true with much of what passes for political dialog these days.

When I advocate the right of individuals to own guns and argue that pseudo-assault rifles are not a problem, I’m attacked as a right-wing militarist. And when I argue for some basic gun laws and say it doesn’t bother me if pseudo-assault rifles are banned, I’m accused of being a left-leaning dupe for the unnamed forces who want to disarm America so that the country can be taken over by the new world order.

The truth is that I have no problem with sensible gun-control laws, such as licensing. I don’t want any goofball who feels like it walking down the street with a pistol under his arm any more than I want unlicensed drivers on the streets.

But like most of the hunters I know, I don’t see why my right to own a firearm should be curtailed by laws that do nothing to prevent the crimes at which the laws were aimed.
 
The truth is that I have no problem with sensible gun-control laws, such as licensing.

I'm preaching to the choir here, but:

Because licensing has certainly ended vehicle accidents and abuse worldwide, hasn't it?

Just more concerted efforts to divide and conquer by alienating hunters and enshrining their mythical "right to hunt", from owners who shoot just because they like to go boom. Keep your eyes peeled for these guys continuing to hammer home the idea that AR15s are for extremists and "nuts."

jm
 
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Another fool who thinks the 2nd amendment is about protect hunting,
Its about protcting freedom.
 
WHEW!!!!!

MAN am I glad I made the cut. See...I own a Bushmaster M-4, A NORINCO SKS, and a host of other weapons but somehow I STILL managed to make it through polygraph testing, a full psych evaluation, background checks, etc. to become a police officer, DESPITE the fact that I must be some wierdo gun nut on a killing spree. Man, I can't believe even after several successful years in this career that my Chief STILL hasn't caught on to what a blood-lusting, violence crazed psychopath I really am!!!!

WAKE UP PEOPLE......it's just like your classic cars, your favorite set of golf clubs, your favorite cigar, etc. IT'S CALLED A HOBBY!!!
 
Taking away all of esharp’s firearms is a great start, but it isn't enough. To be certain, he is in possession of pencils, most likely purchased in high-capacity multi-packs. Odds are that he may even have borrowed unregistered pencils from co-workers, friends, perhaps even family. One can only imagine how deep the corruption of unlawful ASWU (Artificially Shortened Writing Utensils) trade.

Many people purchase these pencils through dime store loopholes, and nefariously "cut them down". Oh sure, they use a sharpener, but make no mistake about it, they are thus conveniently slipped into one's pocket, if you get the point. Next, they use these ASWUs to attack the rights of others, by conveniently attempting to "erase" the 2nd Amendment.

Be alert,

Doc2005
 
History

The only way, sure way, to have any insight into the future, is to examine the past, history.

The few short ones I am acquainted with. The UK, licensing, banning.

Canada, the same. If you had one of the "Bad Guns" you could keep it, no new owners though, you die, gone.

Florida, no licensing, but you need a CCW to carry? Name and address? Yes!

I like guns, I feel protected by me, with My Glock 19, and anyone with me, do I shiver and shake as I walk in public, no.

How I explain to not gun people.

"Do you drive?" "Do you have an insurance slip in your wallet?" The yes answerers get this statement.

You carry Insurance in case you are involved in a Crash.

I carry a gun in case I need it. You are in deep do-do in a crash or an attack without that protection.

I own a Rock River AR15, with a trigger like a target pistol, reason to own, because I wanted it, an AUG and a AK47 same answers.

Any other reasons? Yes, I do not want to be involved in any nasty history, just because I do not own a Crystal Ball! Local or National.

See the news from Munbai? No CCW people in those "Gun Free Zones" the only people carrying guns? Terrorists! What is wrong with that picture.

That attack was very well organized, many members in that Cel, good organization, easily obtained weapons in that part of the world.

That same scenario would work great in any City in the US of A!

Substitute a Glock 17, with a cross shoulder bag of magazines! and home made explosives, "Students!" being able to go anywhere in the US without being checked by any one!

Our local news here in Micky's town said no extra precautions are being taken ? Hullo!

Where did that horse go, well might as well close the gate anyway.
 
Not only does this Fudd not get it, he's an idiot about AR15's and their accuracy.

I can say that there are lots of hunters who are "getting it" now. My B-I-L, for one.
 
he did a nice job offending EVERYONE, at least, instead of just offending one side.

But yes, he obviously doesn't get it. We should ban his truck that he takes hunting. I mean, it's really big, doesn't even stay between lines on certain orads, and wastes gas. Maybe that makes sense to him, too.
 
I guess I'm the only one who wasn't insulted by this article. So either there was no offense to be had, or I'm just really dense. And I've read it twice.

A major issue here is perception. The Rambo guns attract sickos who are responsible for tragedies like the Columbine massacre -- loonies for whom the militaristic-looking weapons represent the power and control absent from their sad lives.

While his words in the above quote may not be the best, I did not take this as everyone who owns a an AR is a sicko waiting to snap. I read it as those who are sickos when picking a weapon to use in their unsavory deeds, look to the "assault rifle" which just adds to the negative picture.

Its really nice to see people get so worked up over an opinion piece. Its his opinion, he's intitled to it!
 
The fact that he used the term "oversized" to describe some firearms' normal mag capacity says a lot, as well.
 
turnyourback, you've got that creepy gothic look going on, I think you've just justified his thinking :)
 
hahaha, i totally don't look goth! that picture was kind of a bad representation. but i do have tattoos, so i'm pretty scary looking i guess :rolleyes:.
 
I wonder what will happen when there is an assassination attempt with a good, solid "sniper rifle". Let's face it, any legislation that will ban "sniper rifles" will do a pretty amazing number on the hunting rifles in this nation.

I can just hear the Sportsmen who support "reasonable gun laws" sputtering, "But...but...but!"

And it will serve them right.

Mike

PS I, of course, hope it never comes to that, just as fervently as I hope there is never an assassination attempt of any sort.
 
No you don't look goth. You look like something out of Heinlein, beautiful and capable. It's a great mix.
I registered at freep.com, awaiting the activation email. Will tell him the same I've told others, they'll come for your sniper rifles after they get all the semi-automatics.
 
No you don't look goth. You look like something out of Heinlein, beautiful and capable. It's a great mix.

definitely the best compliment i've gotten as of late! i <3 my ak.
 
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