P365 Spring Replacement
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5,000 rounds is about the normal interval for me to replace the recoil spring in my handguns. 2500 is pushing it...it's kind of like the oil change companies telling you that you need to change your oil every 3,000 miles. Will it hurt anything? No. Is it necessary? Probably not.
Sig is throwing out a conservative number in order to prevent issues. You might be able to get 8k or 10k with no problems...or you might start seeing issues @ 4k rounds. On my 365, I plan to shoot it and replace it @ 5k rounds (probably longer, as I'll most likely loose track and forget about it) unless I notice any issues before that.
Sig is throwing out a conservative number in order to prevent issues. You might be able to get 8k or 10k with no problems...or you might start seeing issues @ 4k rounds. On my 365, I plan to shoot it and replace it @ 5k rounds (probably longer, as I'll most likely loose track and forget about it) unless I notice any issues before that.
Mizar
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Sub-compact pistols are much more dependent on proper spring tension than service sized ones - follow manufacturer's recommendations closely, because there's a chance that they might know what they are talking about...
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beag_nut
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Kimber advises every 2000 rounds.
JTQ
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Yes.
JTQ
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It depends on the model.
Like Mizar mentions above, Kimber recommends a replacement schedule of every 800 rounds for their Pro size (4") guns.
Kimber's recoil spring replacement schedule is on page 82 of their owners manual. https://www.kimberamerica.com/pub/m...464900031c7/1911-Full-Size-Manual_11-2015.pdf
The RSA is a critical component in reliability and relatively cheap. I have spare RSA's for my P365 and 365XL. Also keep track of round counts. Supply issues aside, if a problem develops the spares can keep the gun going with minimal down time.
It doesn't seem like a big deal but I haven't heard this expectation for other sub-compacts. If you were recommending a handgun to someone who isn't going to do much maintenance besides a basic cleaning and just expects it to run, would you recommend something like a glock to them over a p365? Or is the long-term no-spring-change durability going to be similar?
Have not seen a Sig recommendation on spring replacement...did I miss something in the manual. Any documentation would be appreciated. Mine, an original P365 about a year into their initial offering, has ~2000 rounds through it and I can't remember a malfunction with it...FMJ, HP, my reloads. Best regards, Rod
Don’t have a manual but here claims it’s in there, apologies for the outside link
https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/commen...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/commen...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
TacticalJanitor
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It's normal, but most casual shooters don't think or know about it and will never shoot enough rounds for it to matter.
I'd recommend that you (or your pal) replace the springs as recommended by the manufacturer, and do it at the lower round count recommendation. RSAs or springs are typically cheap, especially for a Glock or 1911. I have no idea what a 365 RSA costs.
If the springs runs too long, and gun begins to malfunction, it really sucks. A person can lose faith in the pistol.
$15 bucks and 10 minutes of work can avoid that problem. Kudos to you for even thinking about it proactively.
JTQ
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Recoil spring changes are normal maintenance for a semi-auto pistol. All semi-auto pistols have a recommended service life for their recoil springs. They are fairly inexpensive. Change them as needed. Most folks keep extra recoil springs as part of their on hand extra parts.
JTQ
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Page 65 of the P365 owners manual says replace the recoil spring assembly every 2,500 rounds
https://www.sigsauer.com/media/sigsauer/resources/OPERATORS_MANUAL_P365_2700116-01_REV07_LR.pdf
I wouldn't consider this a significant consideration if choosing this gun. Small guns usually aren't shot much, and at around $40 ( https://www.sigsauer.com/p365-recoil-spring-assembly.html ) for an RSA, it's about the cost of two boxes of ammo, and I'd consider that a largely insignificant cost.
https://www.sigsauer.com/media/sigsauer/resources/OPERATORS_MANUAL_P365_2700116-01_REV07_LR.pdf
I wouldn't consider this a significant consideration if choosing this gun. Small guns usually aren't shot much, and at around $40 ( https://www.sigsauer.com/p365-recoil-spring-assembly.html ) for an RSA, it's about the cost of two boxes of ammo, and I'd consider that a largely insignificant cost.
JTQ
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Are they ever going to shoot 2,500 rounds through the gun?
JTQ
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So over all those years, they'll have field stripped and lubed the gun multiple times. By the time they get to that point, replacing the recoil spring assembly probably won't be beyond their maintenance expertise.
JTQ
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The analogy between the SIG and the Glock spring replacement is somewhat like avoiding a car that recommends oil changes every 5,000 miles and choosing the car that recommends oil changes every 7,500 miles because you want to have less maintenance.
That is 100% true. However, you still have to perform maintenance on the two vehicles, and if you prefer one over the other, why choose the one you don't like as much simply to avoid some minor maintenance inconvenience.
I mean if you, or your friend, prefers the Glock, that's a perfectly fine choice, but I'd not be concerned with the SIG RSA replacement schedule in the least. It is normal maintenance for all semi-auto pistols, some just have longer intervals than others. For instance, the Beretta PX4 full size, I believe, has a 20,000 round spring replacement schedule. I like the PX4, but I wouldn't pick the gun simply based on a spring service interval. I'm also probably going to replace the recoil spring assembly sooner than that simply because that just seems like too many rounds to me.
Heck, have you seen the Dan Wesson break in schedule? Shoot 50 rounds, clean and lube, shoot 50 more, clean and lube. Do this for the first 300 - 500 rounds. That is something that would give me pause, but if I liked a Dan Wesson model, I'd probably follow their recommendations.
That is 100% true. However, you still have to perform maintenance on the two vehicles, and if you prefer one over the other, why choose the one you don't like as much simply to avoid some minor maintenance inconvenience.
I mean if you, or your friend, prefers the Glock, that's a perfectly fine choice, but I'd not be concerned with the SIG RSA replacement schedule in the least. It is normal maintenance for all semi-auto pistols, some just have longer intervals than others. For instance, the Beretta PX4 full size, I believe, has a 20,000 round spring replacement schedule. I like the PX4, but I wouldn't pick the gun simply based on a spring service interval. I'm also probably going to replace the recoil spring assembly sooner than that simply because that just seems like too many rounds to me.
Heck, have you seen the Dan Wesson break in schedule? Shoot 50 rounds, clean and lube, shoot 50 more, clean and lube. Do this for the first 300 - 500 rounds. That is something that would give me pause, but if I liked a Dan Wesson model, I'd probably follow their recommendations.
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