Packing in PA

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Any advice/suggestions for packing in PA? I'll be going there on a business trip in a few weeks. I have a SC permit. PA honors it, but I was looking to see if anything was weird about the laws in PA.

I've tried to pull up packing.org for some time from work, thinking that my workplace had blocked the website. Found the thread last night saying it was down and thankfully found what appears to be a better site. So I'll be perusing it, but wanted to see if anyone had a quick tutorial for me.;)

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Not that this helps you any but I was in Pittsburgh at the beginning of the month traveling with my mom to a concert. I live in Ohio and they don't honor our right to carry. I am one of those people that think if you are a person that has passed background checks in one state why shouldn't it be honored in all states that allow you to carry? Hope you find what you are looking for.
 
Just use common sense. If you're carrying concealed, keep it concealed.
PA is an open carry state, but I suggest you refrain from doing so.
Prohibited places are typical...schools (1-12), courts...things of that nature. Places that serve alcohol, depending on percentage of sales (a resturant, no problem...but a bar may not be advisable).
Where are you going in PA?
If Philadelphia...well, they're a bit weird. Definitely keep it concealed there!
 
Just use common sense. If you're carrying concealed, keep it concealed.
PA is an open carry state, but I suggest you refrain from doing so.
Prohibited places are typical...schools (1-12), courts...things of that nature. Places that serve alcohol, depending on percentage of sales (a resturant, no problem...but a bar may not be advisable).
Where are you going in PA?
If Philadelphia...well, they're a bit weird. Definitely keep it concealed there!
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There are no laws in PA that restrict you from carrying in a bar, resturant, booze counter, etc.

Taken from the PA Firearm Owners Association (www.pafoa.org)

Off-limits places in PA and what makes them off-limits:
1. Court Facilities - State statute
2. Elementary and Secondary schools, grounds and buildings whether the school is private or public - State statute, however there is a clause for affirmative defense for "other lawful purposes".
3. State Parks and other reserves maintained by the PA DNR - by regulation
4. Casinos - by regulation
5. Certain Department of State buildings - by regulation
6. Places off-limits by Federal Law or regulation, IE: military installations(exceptions for hunting at some bases), Federal Government buildings, National Parks and other historic sights, after the security check point in airports.
7. Any private property where a landowner, tenant or person so authorized to maintain property has asked you to leave because you are carrying.

If your situation is not one of the above, then you are LEGAL.
 
Places that serve alcohol, depending on percentage of sales (a resturant, no problem...but a bar may not be advisable).
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There are no restrictions in the PA Code that would make it illegal to CC in any establishment, regardless of the percentage of sales that come from alcohol.
 
Not to get off topic but....

My instructor for the ccw course said not to mix firearms and alcohol so you CAN'T carry to bars and such. Was that just his opinion then? That led me to believe you couldn't carry where ever alcohol was served. I don't just to be safe but just wondering what is accurate.
 
The casinos and state parks are also in "iffy" legal territory; I wouldn't carry there, but if you did and got caught, you'd have a legal defense that state law preeempts regulation, and there's no exemptions for said places in the UFA (Uniform Firearms Act).

Everywhere else though (including K12 schools) is good to go. Lawful purposes ahoy!


Gunbabe, your instructor was most likely referring to Ohio law (with which I'm not familiar). In PA, there isn't even a law that prohibits you from drinking while carrying (though that's highly inadvisable for other, obvious reasons).
 
Yes it was for Ohio. I'm thinking it was more opinion than law but like I said either way I don't carry around alcohol so no worries there. Thanks for the answer though.
 
Gunbabe:
I live in Ohio and they don't honor our right to carry. I live in Ohio and they don't honor our right to carry. I live in Ohio and they don't honor our right to carry.
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It is actually Ohio that has a problem with the PA CHL.
PA is a true shall issue state... No training required, and in some counties you receive you permit the same hour that your apply for it.

In the past, since PA doesn't have a training requirement, OH will not recognize their permits.

Your question should be directed at the legislators of your home state.
 
Everywhere else though (including K12 schools) is good to go. Lawful purposes ahoy!
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Proceed with _extreme_ caution in the K12 schools case.

The matter is unsettled legal territory, and as a letter from one state rep said, "a danger of prosecution exists".

Remember: the legal process IS the punishment.
 
Yes it was for Ohio. I'm thinking it was more opinion than law but like I said either way I don't carry around alcohol so no worries there. Thanks for the answer though.
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In Ohio you can't carry anywhere alcohol is served. If they business has a class d liquor license, it is illegal to carry there period.
 
If they business has a class d liquor license, it is illegal to carry there period.
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A business can have a Class D license and not dispense alcohol for consumption, in which it is perfectly legal to carry.

You first statement is correct. If it is served you can't carry. Class D license isn't an auto no-carry zone.
 
Ah, yes--sorry. :confused: :what: I forgot to mention that I also have a New Hampshire non-resident license. From what I've read, PA will honor it, although some states will only honor a permit if you are a citzen of the issuing state.

As I am on business, I don't expect to be going to any K12 schools, casinos, or parks so these should not be an issue. I don't drink either. It's good to know that I can legally carry into a restaurant serving alcohol--not something I can say for SC.

I'm headed to Johnstown.

Thanks for the quick tutorial,

javacodeman
 
30 cal slob -- thanks for the link to that PDF! I was surprised when I applied for my PA CCW (Dauphin County) that the uniformed folks weren't pushing on me lots of pamphlets or booklets on just what's legal. I asked for such things, and I was lugubriously handed a slim book on the PA gun laws, but a "How to Carry Right" guide would have been great.

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AvgJoe:

On both counts (nice / gun friendly), it seems that the key variable is "How far am I from Philadelphia?" :)

Last weekend I was in Seattle, where I was reminded (haven't lived there in a few years) of just how friendly and polite Seattleites tend to me. People ask directions of the courteous bus drivers, using words like "Please," "Thank you," and "Excuse me"; the bus drivers give them accurate, forthright directions, or call up to get directions to destinations with which they aren't familiar.

Harrisburg's a bit better than Philly, at least ;) So it's nice to be out in Hburg for the weekend ...

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