Pakistani knives?

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At the flea market today I picked up a little bowie knife copy w/ deer grip and sheath made from Pakistan. I bought it because I don't own a knife made in said country. First thing I took noticed to was how the design of the knife had some Middle Eastern knife style incorporated in it (the curves were attractive to me).
So how is the metal? Any information regarding Pakistani blades?
 
Pyro,

Flea market knives from Pakistan are usually of the very lowest quality. You may have the rare one made with good steel that's been given a proper heat treat, but you'd have to be exceptionally lucky for that to be the case.

I hope you didn't give much for it.
 
Nope, it was among the other cheapo knives there but the shape is what made me grab it.
It looks a lot better than the Chinese ninja knives I always seem to find.

I'm gonna use it for what I bought it for, thrown into the range box.
 
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Pyro I have a trapper pattern that has a bear emblem on one of the scales but the blade does say Pakistan on the blade but it doesn't look all the bad, nice snap. It was given to me by a friend that bought one of those package deals off QVC I think. Heck if you like it enjoy it.
 
Questionable steel. Probably made from old pots and pans or whatever else they could scrounge.
 
I remember those Pak Buck 110 clones back in the 1980's that you saw at some stores and gun shows. I got lucky and got one out of a 100 good ones they made and I used it for years until I lost it.
 
Numbers

The good/bad numbers ratio isn't real good.

I have three left. I gave the rest away.

I have a strange mini sodbuster with thick green wood scales. No indication of origin anywhere on the knife itself, only on the container. For whatever reason, it actually seems to hold an edge. I kept that one.

I have an "Old Smoky" (yes, that's how they spelled it) skinner that was advertised as having been made from an old file. When it arrived, there were a number of red flags: the sheath was not only *not* leather, it was a really smelly synthetic leather substitute, the handle was that uber-fancy layered-and-dyed wood that you see on so many cheap knock-offs, and the blade . . . was stamped "stainless."

Yeah. Made from a "stainless" file, evidently. Oh, it had all the "file grooves" and had the "look" of a file, but no, that's a big negatory. Not a file.. I couldn't bear to keep it with the real knives, so I chucked it in the kitchen junk drawer and proclaimed it to be the package opening knife, to be used instead of the kitchen knives. However, the darned thing actually held an edge. It's convex ground, and once I got it sharp, it pretty much stayed sharp. The heat treat is pretty marginal, but it is usable, and it does respectable junk drawer duty.

And, finally, there's a large Bowie knife that I picked up early on in the "what-is-it-that-will-work-for-me-?" phase. I actually got three of them. The handles were terrible, ranging from too fat, to bad material, to badly fitted. A friend of mine at work was into wood working and when I told him about the handles, he offered to give it a shot. I told him that as long as I got to keep the one with the ugly blade, he could keep the other two. He put some exotic wood on all of them, did a fine job, and I went home with a knife whose handle actually fit.

I kept the one with the ugly blade because, of the three, it was the only one I'd been able to get and keep reasonably sharp. I keep it only because a friend made the handle, not because the knife itself is any good.

I can tell you that, following this, I determined that I would not be taking a heavy Bowie into the wild. Heavy blades and I, we just don't have that chemistry (or is it physics) that you need in a dependable and usable tool. But we're still friends.


Oh -- there was one other Made-in-Pakistan story. I bought a case of "razor knives" (one blade is a straight razor) that were advertised as being made of "Solingen Steel." Photo of blade, showing "Solingen" stamp. The price was really good (assuming actual Solingen made), so I bought them.

When they arrived, It was immediately evident that I had been had. Laser engraved on the blade -- well away from the tang stamp -- was the word PAKISTAN. They would not do a return/refund. Shocker there. Caveat Emptor.

That box of Paki "Solingen" knives is still on a shelf, as I contemplate how to dispose of them.

Consequently, I have determined that I won't be (willingly) buying anything further from the Indian sub-continent until I see some proven performance.

There are plenty of other sources in this world. The Sub-continent will one day catch up, but probably not soon enough to be of any use to me.

Your mileage, of course, may vary.

 
on ebay

... there are many popping up.

They are not copies ... but seem manufactured in paki villages ...
... ordered and instructet by a distributor.

i bought 2 .. and im pleased.
They are not as perfect as western production knives,
but they cut things ... and they r beautyful!

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=547135
 
I can "well execute" something nice looking out of junk. Pakistani blades are bottom of the barrel JUNK. They do not hold an edge. I am sure it is possible that there are custom makers in Pakistan but is not what is being sold in America.

And Pakistani knives have LONG been known for this. They are extremely cheap to purchase. Many American folks that sell out of flea markets and gun shows will buy these knives, then they will engrave really nice things or designs into the blades and or handles and then charge a lot of money for something that cost them next to nothing. This process only makes the knife nicer looking junk.

If you are buying a knife to actually use, Pakistani knives are only good for one thing and that is as throw away knives. Use it once and throw it away.
 
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