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I noticed today that when Clint Eastwood changed the cylinder in the Remington 1858 it looked like he had a conversion that allowed him to load cartridge ammunition. I have not seen a cylinder that is drilled through for sale for a Remington 1858.
The only one's I have seen are at Midway for a Pietta and each cylinder has a firing pin. Does any know bout another type of conversion for the Remington 1858?
 
Kirst Konvertor would be as close as you can buy but it's a 5 shot ... the R&D is an accurate facimaly or one of the original conversions in a 6 shot cylinder. Most of the conversions where done by a Gunsmith back then after Remington started makin; them ariund the end of the War Against Northern Agression... Google 19th Century Rem Conversions for info.
 
The Kirst Konverter is very close to what the original Remington converted NMA's had from the factory but the original chambering was for a .46 rim fire Remington round which like the .45 center fire Colt round the rims were too large to accomodate 6 rounds in the cylinder at that time.
 
I was ordering a R&D drop in conversion from Midway and when I got down to the brass for a 45 the lady told me that they did not have any 45 cal brass in stock. I canceled the order and went looking for brass. There is no brass of any kind for sale in the whole country. What in the world is going on? Is this the way they are going to bring gun cotrol in?
 
Note that all Remington conversions let you swap cylinders.

Check the photo gallery for the Pale Rider Remmies, and lots of other modified Remingtons, as well.
 
ONEIRON---"I was ordering a R&D drop in conversion from Midway and when I got down to the brass for a 45 the lady told me that they did not have any 45 cal brass in stock. I canceled the order and went looking for brass. There is no brass of any kind for sale in the whole country. What in the world is going on? Is this the way they are going to bring gun cotrol in?"





it is now illeagel for the us govt to sell its once fired brass to its own citizens. they sell it to the indians and the chinese. go figure
 
There is no brass of any kind for sale in the whole country. What in the world is going on?
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I think the reason there is no brass is the same that ammo was scarce until a few weeks ago. Panic buying due to the election of Obama.

Ammunition is now becoming available in the more popular calibers and in the less popular calibers also. The MFG. will supply their own needs first for loaded ammobefore they will again start making components, such as brass available. My guess from a source is it should be available in a few weeks, for sure by the first of the year.

it is now illeagel for the us govt to sell its once fired brass to its own citizens.
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I don't think it is illegal to sell once used brass by the Military. I think it was an administrative decision by the Obama administration. I also think it has been reversed due to preasure put on Congress by the Gun lobbies. Not sure about the change, but am sure it was an administrative decision by the new aministration that stopped sales.
 
Mil Brass

DCM shoots provide 30-06 brass at a reasonable price (they have never complained when I picked up my brass and keep it). Parent case for 25-06, 270, 280, 338-06, and 35 Whelen.

Higene

:scrutiny:
 
I found some 45 S&W at Graff and Sons. I got what I need to get me by until the 45Colt becomes available. I just picked up my 58 Remmy. It has been loaded for months, and the crisco had caused the cylinder to be very hard to get out.
I like black powder, but I have never been able to shoot more than two cylinders before having to get some of the gunk off. In truth my Charter Arms 44 Bulldog eats black powder rounds. Go figure.
 
Found this on another site, the Confederate Yankee:

As it turns out, this was a misunderstanding that has been corrected. The US military's "fired brass destruction" policy change turned out to be very short-lived. It has just been reversed as of Tuesday. To begin with, the policy change was intended only for military brass that is OCONUS, not in CONUS. Read about it here:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/18/dod-brass-ban-lifted/
 
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five days for a stupid law is five days to many. that being said, it has been known since obama got in the white house this law was going to come into effect. the law of supply and demand people horded thinkin they would make a killing on the black market. well see what happens in the next six months, to the brass market.
 
You can see how the Pale Rider's 1858 is a full custom job. His conversion cylinders don't have a back plate like the Kirst or R&D cylinders. His hammer has a spur to act as the firing pin.

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Purdier than you

yes he is :neener:

Just watched The Unforgiven last night with Clint , interesting flick . Lots of rare pistols in that one . On one of the first-ish scenes he was carryin a Double Action Starr revolver which I thought was an interesting tid-bit of gun for the writers to use . Lots of good Spencer footage too , especailly the loading procedure . Last scene , a face full of Spencer point blank can't ever be good , for you :D ........I loved all the scenes where people would be holding people at gunpoint , but never had the single actions cocked and locked ? Writers missed that little peice of gun lessons I guess . :D

Das Jaeger
 
LOL You likes the History Channel too, huh? I watched it last night too. Got the DVD for that one too.

Seein' him reach for his scatter gun when he couldn't hit the tin with his revolver is what got me rootin' 'round for my Rossi to look at. :D
 
See !

Even old grizzled face Clint is inspiring you to get out those guns , cool !
Its not the History Channel in my house anymore , its Jaeger TV !
That and the Jaeger Military Channel of course , hee hee hee :D

My Lady walks in the room , says " how can you watch that stuff so much " ... Jaeger says , " Ummm if I have to explain , you wouldn't understand honey " :D

Das Jaeger
 
I just got my R&D conversion cylinder today. Midway emailed me today saying it had been shipped. The wife picked it at the mail box.
Clint's conversion is a lot better than the R&D I received today. But he has a major studio paying the bills. If that conversion was available I think I would have done it. To fan that gun must have had major rework of the main spring. I tried to fan mine and it took the skin off.
 
In those photos of Eastwood, is that two different pistols? Looks like the one in the middle photo has a round barrel, and the others are hex. Also, the pistol stuck in his belt is in different positions.

Or am I dreaming?
 
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