Palm Beach County official wants retired cops to carry guns

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Palm Beach County official wants retired cops to carry guns
By Mark Hollis | South Florida Sun-Sentinel


Before Monday's shooting rampage at a Wendy's restaurant in suburban West Palm Beach, County Commissioner Bob Kanjian began inquiring into why more retired police officers from out of state aren't carrying guns.

After seeing the restaurant in shambles from gunfire, Kanjian, the son of a retired police officer, says he's convinced that county funds should be used to help ex-officers from out of state get the necessary background checks so they can pack a weapon wherever they go.

"I can't imagine people not thinking this is a great idea," Kanjian said Tuesday. "[Monday's shootings] are a wonderful example of the kind of scenario where, if there was someone trained and armed in the restaurant, they might have been able to take the shooter out before he had taken a second shot."

Kanjian, who estimated that there may be 2,000 or more ex-officers residing in Palm Beach County, has asked Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw to prepare an estimate of what it would cost the county to conduct state-required background checks of ex-officers who seek weapons permits.

Bradshaw said the estimate will be ready in a few weeks. Though he expressed interest in the initiative, the sheriff said there are concerns associated with allowing retired officers to carry weapons. When an officer is responding to a shooting, the action is "heated and fast, and a lot of things are happening," said Bradshaw. Putting a plainclothes ex-officer with a weapon drawn into the mix, he said, can add to the confusion or worsen the outcome.

In 2004, federal laws were changed, under what was called House Resolution 218, to allow retired officers to carry weapons across state lines so long as they passed annual tests to prove their shooting skills and carried state-issued cards verifying that they had undergone firearms training and had separated from their employment in good standing.

Last year, the Florida Legislature passed a law defining the state's rules. But the state did not provide funding to pay for checking ex-officers' employment history.

Some gun-control groups have previously expressed concerns. Former officers, they noted, have been involved in some high-profile shooting incidents. But locally, advocates for county funding for the permitting procedure include leaders of a new Fraternal Order of Police lodge made up entirely of former New York officers.

Arnold Dansky, vice president of the lodge and a Boynton Beach resident, approached Kanjian with the funding request.

"There are so many incidents where people have gone off [shooting] in schools, malls. And you just never know, there could be an armed retired officer that could be of assistance," Dansky said.

Mark Hollis can be reached at [email protected] or 561-228-5512.
 
"[Monday's shootings] are a wonderful example of the kind of scenario where, if there was someone trained and armed in the restaurant, they might have been able to take the shooter out before he had taken a second shot."
And yet, it' only cops, and ex-cops he wans to HELP have the guns (by paying for thier backgroun checks, while the rest of us have to pay our own way),and the fact it's ONLY ex-cops he makes any mention of, and effort to assist in carrying, ceratiny leads me to beleive he doesnt support "civilian" ccw, or he wouldnt just be trying to help out ex-cops, he'd be working to do SOMETHING (maybe not paying for permits/checks) to help out ALL those wanting and qualified for a ccw, so they also can help prevent tragedies like this in the future.If his goal is to simply increase the odds of someone with a gun in a place where they can stop a murderer, he should realize there are WAY,WAY more "civilians" out there carrying, or wanting to carry, than there are ex-cops.Why no "help" for us?
More equal animals....
 
Baby steps. Always a good thing.
Which is very true 99.9% of the time with most issues, but when it comes to guns, the evidence is OVERWHELMNG that once politicians, cops,ex-cops, and the rich and famous get what they want, it ends there.Thats what we all thought about the federal law letting retired cops CCW anywhere in the country, yet once again, thats exactly where the whole thing ended. Us "peons" have still gottoen nothing out of our support for them, and that "baby step".The politicians and LEO unions WE supported to get it passed,continue to do NOTHING or us, and in most cases, continue to say us "civiians" should be carrying or owning (the "wrong" kind of, at least, I.E.-"assault weapons") guns at all.No thanks.An ex-cop is just like an ex-plumber, or a current plumber.Just an ordinary citizen.They should have NO special powers and privledges above the rest of us, just because of thier FORMER job choice.I was 6 years active duty military, medically discharged due to knee injury, where's my "speciall perks"? Was my service not as worthy as a cops sevice? NO ONE should get special legal privledges because of the job they USED to do.

"....that all men are created equal....."
 
It just doesn't make sense. An ex-cop can get a regular CCW or go under HR318 so if a cop wanted to carry they would be. What would paying for the background check do? aside from just making it cheaper.
 
Didn't president Bush sign something that said retired (honorably or whatever u call it) LEO's can carry in all of the states?

Or was that just non-retired LEO's?
 
Well, then get a few people and complain about it to said politicians.
That really doesn't help a lot unless you really get a whole lot of peons riled up, for example the Amnesty plan.

More effective is getting pro-Gun people into political office. Get enough in there and we can write our own ticket. Any takers?

As for me, my health is too poor, I'm not formally educated enough, and too broke to run.

But I am sure there are a number of gun owners that can run.
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