Palm Beach County official wants retired cops to carry guns

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Even though the call is for retired cops to have guns on them, I guess there are some folks who are finally beginning to realize that guns might save lives.


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South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
Palm Beach County official wants retired cops to carry guns

By Mark Hollis

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

March 5, 2008

Before Monday's shooting rampage at a Wendy's restaurant in suburban West Palm Beach, County Commissioner Bob Kanjian began inquiring into why more retired police officers from out of state aren't carrying guns.

After seeing the restaurant in shambles from gunfire, Kanjian, the son of a retired police officer, says he's convinced that county funds should be used to help ex-officers from out of state get the necessary background checks so they can pack a weapon wherever they go.

"I can't imagine people not thinking this is a great idea," Kanjian said Tuesday. "[Monday's shootings] are a wonderful example of the kind of scenario where, if there was someone trained and armed in the restaurant, they might have been able to take the shooter out before he had taken a second shot."

Kanjian, who estimated that there may be 2,000 or more ex-officers residing in Palm Beach County, has asked Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw to prepare an estimate of what it would cost the county to conduct state-required background checks of ex-officers who seek weapons permits.

Bradshaw said the estimate will be ready in a few weeks. Though he expressed interest in the initiative, the sheriff said there are concerns associated with allowing retired officers to carry weapons. When an officer is responding to a shooting, the action is "heated and fast, and a lot of things are happening," said Bradshaw. Putting a plainclothes ex-officer with a weapon drawn into the mix, he said, can add to the confusion or worsen the outcome.

In 2004, federal laws were changed, under what was called House Resolution 218, to allow retired officers to carry weapons across state lines so long as they passed annual tests to prove their shooting skills and carried state-issued cards verifying that they had undergone firearms training and had separated from their employment in good standing.

Last year, the Florida Legislature passed a law defining the state's rules. But the state did not provide funding to pay for checking ex-officers' employment history.

Some gun-control groups have previously expressed concerns. Former officers, they noted, have been involved in some high-profile shooting incidents. But locally, advocates for county funding for the permitting procedure include leaders of a new Fraternal Order of Police lodge made up entirely of former New York officers.

Arnold Dansky, vice president of the lodge and a Boynton Beach resident, approached Kanjian with the funding request.

"There are so many incidents where people have gone off [shooting] in schools, malls. And you just never know, there could be an armed retired officer that could be of assistance," Dansky said.

Mark Hollis can be reached at [email protected] or 561-228-5512.

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Putting a plainclothes ex-officer with a weapon drawn into the mix, he said, can add to the confusion or worsen the outcome.

How is a good guy with a gun going to worsen things,
all I can see is a dead bad guy... apparently he thinks it's better to let the bad guy KEEP ON shooting until he stops cause he's hungry or just gets bored.

The thought process behind this is so far removed from reality that I just can't even fathom it???????????:barf:
 
ok I am confused by this, Please help. Is it that they want more x-officers to be able to carry guns? If so isnt florida one of the easier stated to get a ccw? so if this is the case why all the reporting on a non issue?

Or is it that they are going to make the ex-officers ccw? Cant wait for the union to get hold of that one, that would make them employed again.

Or am I just misreading this all together?
 
It does seem that more municipalities are recognizing that the police can not protect us at once. Responsible citizens have to be allowed to take up the load.:cool:
 
Ummm, wasn't there already a national CCW bill for retired cops?

Yep. But it requires permission from the LEO's former agency and certification through them. Not all agencies think it is a good idea (read liability) to arm retired cops, so some are refused.
 
If I were a retired LEO, I would tell them to pack sand.

"If you want me to keep fighting crime after I've retired, keep paying me...."
 
Wouldn't that be sort of like commandeering the personal rights of a retired LEO in the sense of forcing them to accept liability without choice?

Forced volunterism, financial/legal liabilities, sounds like Marksism. No individual, no god and no country, just state rule.
 
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