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Paul Barrett’s: Glock, The Rise of America’s Gun

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Cheytac, Nov 3, 2011.

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  1. ol' scratch

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    You know, some people need to give reporters a break once in a while. Everyday they put their name on something and submit it to public scrutiny. I even received a death threat for something I wrote. As far as Mr Barret not attending the event, it may have been for any number of reasons. I remember covering local politics and not eating a BBQ dinner at a Republican Party sponsored luncheon due to my fear that I might be viewed as having a bias in the minds of Democrats I wanted to interview. If Mr. Barrett didn't attend your events, it doesn't necessary indicate bias. Let me point out one more important fact. After a reporter hands a story off to a copy editor, they can do what they want with it. I remember having a conversation with a copy editor who wrote a headline on one of my articles that seemed to paint a bias for an opposing side. I ended up getting some very angry calls in my voice mail from people who claimed I had a bias toward the other side strictly because they only read the headline. At the end of the day, a journalist can only do so much to write a article that doesn't paint a bias.
     
  2. NYC Shoots

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    Mr. Barrett:

    I read Chapter 1 from your book. The reports I read about the "Miami Shootout" said that the criminals obtained the Mini-14 and some other guns from murdering two people at a shooting range and stealing their guns.

    Did your research find this?
     
  3. Birch Knoll

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    You're asking if his research into the history of the Glock pistol included a fine point of the backstory of the 1986 Miami shootout, whose only purpose in the book is to explain why law enforcement was ripe for a pistol like the Glock? Do you think that has any more relevance to the book's main topic than, say, what Platt and Matix had for breakfast that morning?
     
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  4. NYC Shoots

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    Hi, totalhurst:

    Why the obnoxious, sarcastic response? In case you did read my post correctly, my note was not addressed to you. For that matter, I merely inquired if the author's research indicated if the guns were obtained through theft and murder as was reported when I read about the incident. I did not ask why he excluded those facts from his book.

    Now that you brought the matter up, the content of Chapter 1 is replete with things that would not satisfy your subjective standard of explaining "why law enforcement was ripe for a pistol like the Glock" Does the fact that the criminals were in the Army, had no crimianl record, worked as landscapers and did not seem criminal to their neighbors matter to "why law enforcement was ripe for a pistol like the Glock"? These facts, though interesting, were included, but the source of the murder weapons was not.

    So now what do you have to say for yourself?:neener::neener::neener:

    I don't expect any reply from Mr. Barrett.
     
  5. Birch Knoll

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    I don't view it as either obnoxious or sarcastic. It is critical, challenging the relevance and the intention of your query.

    If you'd like to have a private conversation with Mr. Barrrett, there are ways to do that. You chose to pose your query in a public forum, so you should not be surprised when others respond to it.
    No, you didn't. On the other hand, since your only postings prior to that were attacks on Mr. Barrett, I strongly suspect that your oh-so-innocent query is a prelude to more of the same.

    Ah, yes, there it is.

    And, to you, this means Barrett is... what, sympathetic to Platt and Matix? That's quite a stretch you're engaging in there. It's not enough that he described them as "no ordinary thugs", "psychopaths", and "deadly", or that he describes how Platt "sneaked up on" two agents, fatally shooting both, permanently crippled three others, and injuring two more. Yeah, he's really painting them as choir boys by not reaching back 6 months to a separate crime in which they murdered a man and stole his car and guns.

    I say that your point, to the extent I can discern one, is lame.

    I wouldn't, if I were you.
     
  6. aeriedad

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    That's a good response, ttolhurst, but I don't' think it's worth your effort here. NYC Shoots is trolling and, IMO, should be ignored. Mr. Barrett may want to respond, but even that won't solve anything. And I'm no particular fan of Glock, preferring 1911s and S&W revolvers.

    Mr. Barrett's views, though a little different from mine, are not outright hostile to RKBA, and I can't think of any reason he should be so disparaged here. I may even find time to read his book at some point. If someone disagrees with him or his writing, that can be stated simply enough with much less animosity.
     
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    Seriously, he signed up to bash an author who was nice to enough to come on here. NYC trolls is the opposite of the high road.
     
  8. SFCRandall

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    I saw Mr. Barrett give a reading on C-Span a few days ago, and was pleasantly suprised at the fair and balanced presentation to a crowd of stereotypical liberal elites. (I believe it was in NY). As he was describing his own experience learning to shoot and attending firearms training he enthusiastically confessed that shooting firearms "is fun!" , and that is a critical aspect of the shooting world that anti gunners don't get. I will buy his book.
     
  9. Armchair Bronco

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    Haven't seen this before. It's REALLY, REALLY funny. And totally accurate WRT the GFW.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
  10. basicblur

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    Finished reading it a few days ago - rather than post a review, thought I'd toss out the below links for those that might be interested. You can download the interviews (just save ‘em as MP3 files) and listen at your leisure.

    FWIW, I enjoyed it, although it's no doubt written for those that have little/no experience with firearms and the shooting industry.
    Even if you're not a firearms enthusiast, this one reads like a spy novel - everybody was stealing from Glock, and when he found out about it, he went after them. One of his former financial advisors put out a contract on him in Luxembourg after he realized Glock had discovered he was skimming money from him (Gaston and the hit man fought to a draw)!

    The former CEO/chief counsel of Glock America is shortly coming to trial in Georgia on embezzlement charges.
    Defense asks judge to dismiss indictment against ex-Glock CEO
    http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/defense-asks-judge-to-1317075.html

    How The Glock Became America's Weapon Of Choice
    http://www.npr.org/2012/01/24/145640473/how-the-glock-became-americas-weapon-of-choice

    NPR’s Fresh Air interview with author Paul Barrett
    (stream or download in MP3 format)
    http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=145640473&m=145698580

    AAR Interview with author Paul Barrett
    Glock was not happy with his book – they had his press credentials pulled for the recent SHOT show, but were not successful in having him removed from the floor.
    In hour one we speak with author Paul Barrett (Glock, the Rise of America’s Gun) about why Glock was not happy about his presence at the industry trade show and what they did about it.
    (NOTE: Interview starts at the 30 minute mark)
    http://armedamericanradio.org/2012/01/aar-broadcast-1-29-2012-hour-1/

    An older Forbes story on Glock:
    Top Gun by Dyan Machan, 03.31.03
    Inside the secret and violent world of Gaston Glock, maker of the most popular firearm in U.S. law enforcement.
    http://www.forbes.com/global/2003/0331/020.html
     
  11. Armybrat

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    Just heard about this book....I wanna read it. Just have to scrape up some $$.
     
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