Pedersoli Brutus 94

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Bullwinkle

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So, I'm cruising the Cabela's site and they have this rifle on their site for
99 bucks (reg $129). It's listed as a new item. Has anybody seen or heard of this one before? Is someone else making it for Pedersoli?

I can't figure out how to post the link for it here. Pedersoli also shows it on their "modern muzzleloaders" page.

I wonder if it's worth getting one as a starter rifle. It's even cheaper than used CVAs, T/Cs, Traditions, etc.
 
This rifle is not really "new" to Cabela's, as they have offered the Brutus 94 for sale in the past. IIRC it was listed for ~ $300 back then.

If you do a Google search for brutus kahnke, it returns some interesting reading.
 
Wow,is that ugly. Can't beat the price, though. They're all but handing those out free. If you like that sort of thing, jump on it.At that price that deal's not going to last.
 
I am also interested in the Brutus 94, more because of price than anything.

Although - if anyone recalls the previous thread I started regarding recoil - the 94 seems to be a good compromize between my desire for a modern in-line and the longing for tradition.

Not that the old Winchester 94 was a smoke pole, but the design of the Brutus 94, using a Winchester 94 receiver frame design sans lever action, still has a unique (if not authentic) period look to it. Eye of the beholder I guess.

And it's heavy. Not that I'd desperately desire to hump around extra weight -but that's one way to defeat some recoil.

Very little information and all but no reviews posted online, But for a hundred bucks, might be a good intro to front loading, and maybe be a foul-weather back-up piece if I upgrade later.

It would be good to know how easy it is to access/remove the breach plug and clean...

I would love some Go-No/Go advice before I pull the trigger if anyone knows if Pedersoli's in-lines are to be avoided.

P.S...I did find another site online stating MSRP for these is in the $400's...makes you wonder why Cabela's is giving them away...
 
The Pedersoli's just never caught on maybe in part because of their price.
I'm not sure just how easy it is to mount a scope on that 94 model. The Brutus 94 frame is listed as being aluminum, but despite that it's still a very heavy rifle.

The Pedersoli Denali break action model that's on sale for $129 includes a scope mount. It has a 28 inch barrel, a solid steel frame and a long length of pull.

Here's an excellent review about it and how accurate it shoots.

http://www.gunweek.com/2005/feature0610.html

$99 Brutus Model 94:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t.../search-box.jsp.form23&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

$129 Brutus Denali:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t.../search-box.jsp.form23&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

$129 Brutus Ovation:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...h/search-box.jsp.form1&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1
 
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I ordered one in flat black yesterday.

If it doesn't work out for me...the Trading Post down the way takes trades and buys used firearms.

Will be here in a week.

Good luck to Bullwinkle if they also jump on the bargain (hope it's a bargain)...
 
WBNH, goood luck on your purchase! Let us know how it works out for you.

I'm still considering one for target shooting only. It has a fast twist 1:26 barrel. Does anyone know if this thing will take round balls or will they spin too much before exiting the muzzle? I don't want to have to use conicals or exotic hunting bullets/sabots. Otherwise, I may have to look for a used sidelock to stay within budget.
 
Came UPS Yesterday.

As for low powder charges...the Manual states no more than 150 grains BP or Substitute, but no less than 80 grains.

I wonder why that is. No way 60 or 70 grains of Blackhorn is going to leave a sabot lodged in the barrel.

Haven't gotten to shoot at all yet, but I can give a first impression...it is quite hefty. By which I mean both heavy and sturdilly built. Literature calls it 7#7oz...but it feels more like nine pounds. I'll have to get a scale.

The pistol grip of the stock has a large and somewhat square-ish cross section and, while comfortable, would be a stretch for small hands.

The Williams Fiber Optic sights are beautiful, as is the case hardening of the receiver.

The stock and foregrip are coated in a tacky black-rubber skin...would be almost impossible for this to slip out of a gloved hand without taking the glove with it.

It has both Half-Cock and hammer block (push button) safeties. However, both pushing the safety to Fire and coming to full cock do make much more noticably loud clicks than my Marlin Lever Action. For deer - I'd already have the safety off and Ease from half to full cock slowly to avoid a major mechanical sound when sighting on a buck.

I have not yet tried to disassemble it at all...the instructions for disassembly start with dismantling the firing pin mechanism. I can't figure why they'd bother...the primer goes into the breach plug (at about a 15-20 degree downward angle), then a primer cover (containing the firing pin mechanism) slides over from the left side. The hammer strikes the firing pin. This primer cover appears to be held on by one screw used as a pivot. Seems this would be removable as a unit without dismantling the firing pin mechanism itself (and avoiding, as the manual put it, "PETENTIAL TO LOSE A SPRING AT THIS STEP").

Then a screw needs to be removed beneath the receiver and the barrel and forestock come off as a unit.

Cabelas states the breach plug is removable - but the manual never mentions this fact. There are flat lands on both sides of the 'breech plug' that would appear to be able to take a wrench, but I suspect it is also screwed in through the bottom as well...as there is only one position the breech plug can be mounted for the primer cover/ firing pin mechanism to line up.

As I intend to use only Blackhorn 209, most cleanings will be without disassembly. However, I do want to be able to adequately clean the primer residue out of the breech plug itself.

Hope to write more after sighting it in. May be a while before i can get out.

So far I like it a lot...reminding myself it cost $99. continues to make me laugh.

I will say that I wish the stock was angled downward and not straight back from the receiver. Using the sights with the stock square to the shoulder requires craning the neck downward almost to the point of discomfort to line up. A scope with sight-through rings elevating it an inch or so above the barrel may alleviate this problem.

But I've never yet been a scope user...
 
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Well... Good, bad, or indifferent, I just ordered one of these rifles from Cabela's... If anyone on here has any idea where to find a scope mount for this rig, I would be grateful for the info. The receiver is advertised as being drilled and tapped for the scope mount, but no one seems to sell a mount made specifically for this gun. BTW, Cabela's has free shipping until the end of today on orders of 150 or more if you type in "99FREE" in the promotions code area.
 
Hmmm... when I placed my order last night for some .30-06 stuffs... the offer was good until 09-08 on the web site. "?"
 
You are probably right... I was going off the email they sent me. I did notice that they had two different promotion codes available when I went to check out. Either way, I was stoked to save $30 bucks on shipping in addition to the seemingly killer deal on that gun. I also gave in and bought another '51 confederate navy.(had to have a matching set)
 
I hear yaz.... I was in there for $109... and with shipping... $125. So... Another $41 got spent to get the free shipping. :D
 
The .30-06 conversion kit (with a "clip") was only $80. I'll probably need to connect with ya for the .22-250 parts through Brownell's at another time. Probably need the bull barrel too. :evil:

Also gonna try those reloadable bullets that hone the bore extra smooth and see if they do good things.
 
You can

Moly the bore that way too, especially on the 22-250 , slick arse round there , you can shoot them barrels clean out if your not carefull . Super high FPS on that caliber, as you know :D
I readan article that the Moly is a good idea , and gets good results in that bore becasue of the speed the 22-250 produces , and will give some longevity to the barrel doing the Moly. Sometin to think about ?
I saw the accuracy results on paper , it works .

Jaeger
 
Any ol' moly product? I gots me some CRC moly/graphite assembly lube (anti-seize)... or my moly/synthetic grease.

Love my .22-250... right outta da box it was groupin' at 1.25" at 100yds.
 
No

you need Barrel special Moly , real pure stuff , and you can shoot it through that way , it coats like grease on the bullet , pop it in shoot it , done . Brownells sells it , or used too ? .
It was all the rage years ago when I read that stuff .
Awsome reach out and scrub you out caliber :evil:

Das Jaeger
 
No kidding ?

Man I wouldn't ever even think of that caliber for them ? I useually associate that caliber with long range Prarie Dogs and such , fox , cayote .
But then again 3006 is my favorite caliber for killin :D
Headshots on Carribou witha 22-250 probably scrambles some Brains pretty well huh :D

Jaeger

What was this thread about :what:
 
Yup... the last 'bou I took with the .22-250 was indeed a head shot. I was laying in a depression in the tundra and he had not a clue I was there as he was grazing his way along. JUST as I pulled the trigger, he dropped his head to feed. I heard a singing ricochet, just like on the old westerns. He reared up on his hind legs and then back onto all four... head rotating all around... obviously dazed. I chambered a second round and took him from a head on head shot that entered just above the black spot of his snout... went straight through and snapped his neck and took a right turn and come out his artery. All four feet went in a different direction as he crumpled to the ground and his bladder emptied out as he was going down. It was definately a "no reflex zone" kill. The first round hit the base of his antler... I'll bet it was an UGLY headache for a moment. :evil:

'bou are a soft bodied animal. Another reason the smaller calibers are popular in the arctic is... it's a status symbol... like driving a Beemer down here. .17 Remingtons aren't uncommon to be found.

My grandfather used to hunt Alaskan Brown Bears with a .22 Short, single shot breech load. "Shoot 'em in the ear". That's nuts !!!
 
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